Very good and right to the point . We must warn all to come out of her .
have read of the great faith of Susana dan 13?
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Very good and right to the point . We must warn all to come out of her .
I'm literally sickened in my stomach when you guys start going off about Mary. I can't stand a word of it. It's so utterly sickening to me. You can't possibly know Christ in a personal relationship if you think this Mary stuff somehow compares to a personal and direct relationship with Christ Himself. If you had that personal relationship with Christ you'd see He is not in this Mary stuff. That's how saved, Spirit filled people can tell it's false: The Holy Spirit they are so familiar with is not in the Catholic church's doctrines and practices. If you do not have Christ in you in salvation you will not have the Spirit of discernment to enable you to see that the Catholic church and it's Mary worship cult is a fraud. I don't want to be so blunt but this is serious business.Mother of God Lk 1:43
Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity
Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30
Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34
If there is anything in it that contradicts the scriptures I already have then I will know it's a fake. Frankly, I just don't need what is in those writings. The Bible I have is quite sufficient to nurture my relationship with God through Christ. It's been enough for 35 years now. I know that by the Spirit that's in me. People on the outside looking in don't understand being saved is a real relationship. It is fellowship and intimacy with a real being. It's not a textbook relationship that you just tell yourself is real.It’s in scripture dan 13
It’s about faith in God!
I'm literally sickened in my stomach when you guys start going off about Mary. I can't stand a word of it. It's so utterly sickening to me. You can't possibly know Christ in a personal relationship if you think this Mary stuff somehow compares to a personal and direct relationship with Christ Himself. If you had that personal relationship with Christ you'd see He is not in this Mary stuff. That's how saved, Spirit filled people can tell it's false: The Holy Spirit they are so familiar with is not in the Catholic church's doctrines and practices. If you do not have Christ in you in salvation you will not have the Spirit of discernment to enable you to see that the Catholic church and it's Mary worship cult is a fraud. I don't want to be so blunt but this is serious business.
that’s the whole point the spirit of truth bring the unity of faith and obedience of faith
Or there would not be one mind one heart
Thee faith
Yes: "...until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature..." Ephesians 4:13that’s the whole point the spirit of truth bring the unity of faith and obedience of faith
Teachers teach the teachings. Believers then discern them as being true or not. Individual believers themselves don't write doctrines (unless they had that calling). They discern them. John says each believer has this anointing to discern truth from falseness (1 John 2:20-21, 1 John 2:26-27). This is in fulfillment of prophecy:then why do we need to be taught Lk 1:4?
Of course he's talking to adult Christians. And, yes, John is a spiritual father whose words speak to us to this very day. What he is not is our spiritual discerner. The Holy Spirit is that in each individual believer himself.1 Jn 2:1 John is a spiritual father!
My little children
He is talking to adult Christians
Justification occurs when a person believes. And justification is a one time event that does not have to be repeated. Hebrews 10:10, Hebrews 10:14no saved until the hour of death
I don't care about Mary. And I don't care about any church father because my allegiance is not to men. The Spirit is my guide into truth. You are sorely wrong if you think I submit to everything protesting leaders say just because they are protesters of the Catholic church.And these guys
Martin Luther
It is an article of faith that Mary is Mother of the Lord and still a virgin. … Christ, we believe, came forth from a womb left perfectly intact. (Weimer’s The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, v. 11, pp. 319-320; v. 6. p. 510.)
John Calvin
(On the Heretic Helvidius) Helvidius displayed excessive ignorance in concluding that Mary must have had many sons, because Christ’s “brothers” are sometimes mentioned. (Harmony of Matthew, Mark and Luke, sec. 39 [Geneva, 1562], vol. 2 / From Calvin’s Commentaries, translated by William Pringle, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1949, p.215; on Matthew 13:55)
[On Matt 1:25:] The inference he [Helvidius] drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband . . . No just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words . . . as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called “first-born”; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin . . . What took place afterwards the historian does not inform us . . . No man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 107)
Under the word “brethren” the Hebrews include all cousins and other relations, whatever may be the degree of affinity. (Pringle, ibid., vol. I, p. 283 / Commentary on John, [7:3])
John Wesley
‘I believe that He [Jesus] was made man, joining the human nature with the divine in one person; being conceived by the singular operation of the Holy Ghost, and born of the blessed Virgin Mary, who, as well after as before she brought Him forth, continued a pure and unspotted virgin’ (‘Letter to a Roman Catholic’, The Works of Rev. John Wesley, vol 10, p. 81).
St Augustine, Sermons 186.1 (early 5th century):
“In being born of a Virgin who chose to remain a Virgin even before she knew who was to be born of her, Christ wanted to approve virginity rather than to impose it. And he wanted virginity to be of free choice even in that woman in whom he took upon himself the form of a slave” (Holy Virginity 4:4 [A.D. 401]).
“It was not the visible sun, but its invisible Creator who consecrated this day for us, when the Virgin Mother, fertile of womb and integral in her virginity, brought him forth, made visible for us, by whom, when he was invisible, she too was created. A Virgin conceiving, a Virgin bearing, a Virgin pregnant, a Virgin bringing forth, a Virgin perpetual. Why do you wonder at this, O man?” (Sermons 186:1 [A.D. 411]).
“Heretics called Antidicomarites are those who contradict the perpetual virginity of Mary and affirm that after Christ was born she was joined as one with her husband” (Heresies 56 [A.D. 428]).
St Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, III.28.3 (13th century):
"Without any hesitation we must abhor the error of Helvidius, who dared to assert that Christ's Mother, after His Birth, was carnally known by Joseph, and bore other children.
For, in the first place, this is derogatory to Christ's perfection: for as He is in His Godhead the Only-Begotten of the Father, being thus His Son in every respect perfect, so it was becoming that He should be the Only-begotten son of His Mother, as being her perfect offspring.
“Secondly, this error is an insult to the Holy Ghost, whose "shrine" was the virginal womb, wherein He had formed the flesh of Christ: wherefore it was unbecoming that it should be desecrated by intercourse with man.
“Thirdly, this is derogatory to the dignity and holiness of God's Mother: for thus she would seem to be most ungrateful, were she not content with such a Son; and were she, of her own accord, by carnal intercourse to forfeit that virginity which had been miraculously preserved in her.
“Fourthly, it would be tantamount to an imputation of extreme presumption in Joseph, to assume that he attempted to violate her whom by the angel's revelation he knew to have conceived by the Holy Ghost.
“We must therefore simply assert that the Mother of God, as she was a virgin in conceiving Him and a virgin in giving Him birth, did she remain a virgin ever afterwards."
The blessed Mary mother of God, is a perpetual virgin to the glory of God!
Half of the kingdom of Christ belongs to Mary!
the kingdom of justice Jesus retains and shares even this with his apostles Matt 19:28
the kingdom of grace and mercy are Mary’s
Lk 1:28 full of grace
Lk 1:30 found our salvation
Lk 1:38 Consented to our salvation
Heb 4:16 the throne of grace
Pepto BismolI'm literally sickened in my stomach when you guys start going off about Mary. I can't stand a word of it. It's so utterly sickening to me. You can't possibly know Christ in a personal relationship if you think this Mary stuff somehow compares to a personal and direct relationship with Christ Himself. If you had that personal relationship with Christ you'd see He is not in this Mary stuff. That's how saved, Spirit filled people can tell it's false: The Holy Spirit they are so familiar with is not in the Catholic church's doctrines and practices. If you do not have Christ in you in salvation you will not have the Spirit of discernment to enable you to see that the Catholic church and it's Mary worship cult is a fraud. I don't want to be so blunt but this is serious business.
If there is anything in it that contradicts the scriptures I already have then I will know it's a fake. Frankly, I just don't need what is in those writings. The Bible I have is quite sufficient to nurture my relationship with God through Christ. It's been enough for 35 years now. I know that by the Spirit that's in me. People on the outside looking in don't understand being saved is a real relationship. It is fellowship and intimacy with a real being. It's not a textbook relationship that you just tell yourself is real.
Your pointing to one heart, one mind and unity, yet here you are trying proseletyze for your denomination and man made institutional church. Unity of the Spirit ONLY comes when we give up man made doctrines and religious dross.
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: (Ephesians 4:13-15)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: (Colossians 2:8-10)
“Bible alone” is false doctrine
So if the Bible has absolutely zero validity to you, what do you put your faith in?
If you are a believer, you truly must have SOME deep level of faith in scripture or your only option is to trust man to teach you how/what God is.
Is this what you call tradition of men?
1 cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
or
2 John 1:12
Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full.
the apostles are our fathers who care for our souls
Dan thirteen was accepted by the R double C for over a thousand years . Lets face it , THE RCC are the apostels YOU speak about .dan 13 was apostles approved scripture for over a thousand years until the “tradition of men” under king James said nay! So keep following men. I’ll follow the apostles as scripture says acts 2:42
For those who are in the false institutions are lulled to sleep and know it not . Exactly .HAHAHAHA... your iphone might be trying to tell you something....
What will it add to what I now know from my Bible?dan 13 was apostles approved scripture for over a thousand years until the “tradition of men” under king James said nay! So keep following men. I’ll follow the apostles as scripture says acts 2:42