I concur.And we are now, quite surely, off-topic.
Not quite. As Jesus' disciples we are to send forth the Gospel.They'd probably be better off.![]()
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I concur.And we are now, quite surely, off-topic.
Not quite. As Jesus' disciples we are to send forth the Gospel.They'd probably be better off.![]()
Explain what the bible means by THE LORDS DAY and also what significance do you find in JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK?This argument is a textbook case of why Paul warned Timothy to be on the lookout against people who deceitfully handle the Bible. Literally none of those passages say God changed the rest day from Saturday to Sunday.
This is human reasoning speaking, and not the Bible. God only consecrated 1 day out of the entire week to be treated holy, not all 7. Man doesn't possess any authority to decide which day is going to be holy. You should also note that Christ was specifically speaking about what was lawful to do on a Sabbath. What He didn't say was that everyday could be treated as a Sabbath. According to what God says, there is nothing inherently sacred about the other 6 days.
Couldn't be talking about exemption from the ten commandments, since we are still obviously bound by the other nine commandments. Or is it okay to murder, kill, steal, fornicate, etc?Gal 5:18 But if you be led of the Spirit, you are not under the law.
It couldn't be plainer, and yet many stumble.
The only day that has ever been attributed as especially belonging to the LORD is the SABBATH.Explain what the bible means by THE LORDS DAY and also what significance do you find in JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK?
Or rationalization of a day that God never sanctified or made holy.This needs spiritual discernment.
I've never been bound by OT Law.Couldn't be talking about exemption from the ten commandments, since we are still obviously bound by the other nine commandments. Or is it okay to murder, kill, steal, fornicate, etc?
The sabbath was Old Testament law, and The Lord rose from the dead on the first day of the week, aka "The Lord's Day". If you refuse to see the significance in Jesus fulfilling the law and creating a new way to be a believer aka not needing to sacrifice when we sin etc then fine but Jesus's day is The Lord's Day as He is The Lord and that is the first day if the week that He rose from the dead on.The only day that has ever been attributed as especially belonging to the LORD is the SABBATH.
It is glorious that Jesus rose from the dead. It allows us to live a new life in Him.
The fact that He rose from the dead on the 1st day of the week is given no significance in Scripture.
Christ RESTED in the grave during the SABBATH.
We read in Acts 13:42, 44
42) And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
44) And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Please note that the Jews gathered together on the seventh day of the week [Saturday] and also note the term "next" in Strong's Concordance means "between" therefore, in this case, "next/between sabbaths" would mean the day after Saturday will have to mean Sunday the first day of the week.
Now the most significant and profound Scripture reference concerning the change from Saturday Sabbath to Sunday Sabbath worship [which BTW, can't be seen in the English translation] is Matthew 28:1 that reads:
"In the end of the sabbath as it began to dawn towards the first day of the week came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher."
Please note that the printer is warning the English reader that words in italicize in the KJV Bible, are not in the original manuscripts. Also note that the word "week" is the plural Hebrew word "sabaton" that can be proven.
Hence, Matthew 28:1 can be rendered thus:
"In the end of the sabbaths as it began to dawn towards the first of the sabbaths came Mary..."
Now Matthew 28:1 seems to be in harmony and that God teaches us that He changed the Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to the First Day Sabbath which to us is Sunday.
To God Be The Glory
There are three or four statements you have made in this post without any corroborating evidence whatsoever. They are no more than assumptions.There’s no need to explain Acts, because it’s so clear that Paul didn’t travel from city to city to attend the synagogues of the Jews just to fill a pew, but to preach to them that Jesus is their Messiah, and he had to be there when they were there to hear him, which was on the sabbath.
Just as circumcision was physical in the old covenant, but spiritual in the new, the rest for Israel was physical in the old covenant, but spiritual in the new.
Jesus is our rest 24 7 in the new covenant, Matthew 11:28-29, so now our rest, which is what sabbath means, is no longer on a ceremonial day, but is found in Jesus.
Scripture says the sabbath was just a shadow of Jesus, who is the substance.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Note also that the two love commands which superseded the old ten, have no required day to keep at all, leaving us free to assemble together on any day we want - the apostles chose the Lords day, the first day of the week, since He rose on that day.
Shalom Aleichem
And all true, like it or not.There are three or four statements you have made in this post without any corroborating evidence whatsoever. They are no more than assumptions.
I am very much in agreement with that BIRD... FINALLY we are of one mind... LOLThere are three or four statements you have made in this post without any corroborating evidence whatsoever. They are no more than assumptions.
Assumptions my friend are assumptions. By definition, always debatable. And when you use assumptions and make them doctrine, you end up calling those who disagree with your assumptions heretics. It's a slippery slope that could end up with the church burning people for not having assumptions but basing their doctrines on "it is written". Oh, wait.And all true, like it or not.
We read in Acts 13:42, 44
42) And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
44) And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
In neither verse (each of which uses a different Greek word for "next") is the word "between" or anything similar used in any English translation of the Bible.Please note that the Jews gathered together on the seventh day of the week [Saturday] and also note the term "next" in Strong's Concordance means "between" therefore, in this case, "next/between sabbaths" would mean the day after Saturday will have to mean Sunday the first day of the week.
Now the most significant and profound Scripture reference concerning the change from Saturday Sabbath to Sunday Sabbath worship [which BTW, can't be seen in the English translation] is Matthew 28:1 that reads:
"In the end of the sabbath as it began to dawn towards the first day of the week came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher."
So are we to believe that God is allowing the entire English-speaking world to be in the dark about this passage? None of the roughly 30 English translations found on Biblehub.com has seen fit to translate it this way.Hence, Matthew 28:1 can be rendered thus:
"In the end of the sabbaths as it began to dawn towards the first of the sabbaths came Mary..."
What does bound by "OT law" mean? I know what "bound by the other nine commandments" means. It doesn't mean shackled.I've never been bound by OT Law.
This is a "straw man" argument. I made no mention whatsoever of refusing to accept the doctrine of new life in Christ, nor did I mention the need for sacrificing animals.If you refuse to see the significance in Jesus fulfilling the law and creating a new way to be a believer aka not needing to sacrifice when we sin etc then fine
If it's so clear, why were the Gentiles happy to wait around until the next Sabbath to hear Paul preach?There’s no need to explain Acts, because it’s so clear that Paul didn’t travel from city to city to attend the synagogues of the Jews just to fill a pew, but to preach to them that Jesus is their Messiah, and he had to be there when they were there to hear him, which was on the sabbath.
It never ceases to amaze me how folks will take ambiguous passages to warrant neglecting that which they've always neglected and preserve their lifestyle, but when they apparently have clear permission from Christ to hate their parents, they observe the fifth commandment, anyway.Just as circumcision was physical in the old covenant, but spiritual in the new, the rest for Israel was physical in the old covenant, but spiritual in the new.
Jesus is our rest 24 7 in the new covenant, Matthew 11:28-29, so now our rest, which is what sabbath means, is no longer on a ceremonial day, but is found in Jesus.
Scripture says the sabbath was just a shadow of Jesus, who is the substance.
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
And there it is:Note also that the two love commands which superseded the old ten, have no required day to keep at all, leaving us free to assemble together on any day we want - the apostles chose the Lords day, the first day of the week, since He rose on that day.
“Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.” - Mar. 2:28Explain what the bible means by THE LORDS DAY and also what significance do you find in JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK?