Postmillenial Partial Preterism...What is it? A Victorious View of the Gospel.

[Truth7t7]

Companies start implanting microchips into workers' bodies - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

Only bad I did, it is not mandatory yet- but is heading there.

Can your company require you to be microchipped? | AZ Big Media

Bill requires employers to keep implanted microchips voluntary for workers (abc12.com)

Microchip: You will get chipped — eventually (usatoday.com)

It can hold more info than the mag strip on a card or the chip on a card and is safer. It is here, it is global and people are getting insoctrinated into doing it. will a microchip be part of the mark of the beast? don't know, but it looks like it could be a good candidate. we will see.

Thanks for the info Ron, hardtop believe it's taking place, and I dont deny your info

Let's you see how sick the liberals really are to obtain total control

 

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Yes you claim the future (Eternal Kingdom's) river of life seen below is a symbolic allegory of the Holy Spirit

Is the tree of life, its fruit and healing leaves also a symbolic allegory?

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

You did not answer my question;

Jn7:38.....spoke of scripture speaking of living water?
What scripture is that?
What scripture was Jesus speaking of in Jn.7:38?

 

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Daniel 9:24-27; speaking of Jesus;
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon the Holy City,

1] to finish the transgression,

2] to make an end of sins

3] to make reconciliation for iniquity

4] to bring in everlasting righteousness

5] to seal up the vision and prophecy

6] to anoint the most holy

 

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I find it wholly ironic that truth7t7 rejects the literal word of Scripture while accepting the literal word of this Gentry character saying the bible is not literal. How do we know Gentry is literal??????

Do you know who Ken Gentry is ? he has written several books and is in demand as a conference speaker....For you to dismiss him as "this character"....is quite disrespectful especially as he has forgotten more bible than either of you two will ever know.

About Kenneth L. Gentry
Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D. is a retired Presbyterian minister, author of numerous books on theology and biblical studies, and a conference speaker who has spoken throughout America, in the Caribbean, and Australia. He is a conservative, evangelical, and Reformed Christian.

He holds a B.A. from Tennessee Temple University (Biblical Studies); the M.Div. from Reformed Theological Seminary (Pastoral Ministry); and the Th.M. and Th.D. from Whitefield Theological Seminary (New Testament).

He is married (since 1971) and has three married children (and six grandchildren).

He also has several professionally-produced educational videos available at his personal website: www.KennethGentry.com.

He oversees a correspondence course on Christian research, writing, and publication. His Righteous Writing course is available at:

Righteous Writing Course (Lectures + Gentry oversight)

In September 2013 he established an eschatology blog promoting postmillennialism and orthodox preterism: www.PostmillennialismToday.com.

He has a Facebook page and welcomes new "friends" there.

 

[Truth7t7]

You did not answer my question;

Jn7:38.....spoke of scripture speaking of living water?
What scripture is that?
What scripture was Jesus speaking of in Jn.7:38?

He wasn't speaking of the Eternal river of life seen in Zechariah 14:8, Ezekiel 47:12 or Revelation 22:1

 

[Truth7t7]

Do you know who Ken Gentry is ? he has written several books and is in demand as a conference speaker....For you to dismiss him as "this character"....is quite disrespectful especially as he has forgotten more bible than either of you two will ever know.

About Kenneth L. Gentry
Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D. is a retired Presbyterian minister, author of numerous books on theology and biblical studies, and a conference speaker who has spoken throughout America, in the Caribbean, and Australia. He is a conservative, evangelical, and Reformed Christian.

He holds a B.A. from Tennessee Temple University (Biblical Studies); the M.Div. from Reformed Theological Seminary (Pastoral Ministry); and the Th.M. and Th.D. from Whitefield Theological Seminary (New Testament).

He is married (since 1971) and has three married children (and six grandchildren).

He also has several professionally-produced educational videos available at his personal website: www.KennethGentry.com.

He oversees a correspondence course on Christian research, writing, and publication. His Righteous Writing course is available at:

Righteous Writing Course (Lectures + Gentry oversight)

In September 2013 he established an eschatology blog promoting postmillennialism and orthodox preterism: www.PostmillennialismToday.com.

He has a Facebook page and welcomes new "friends" there.

Kenneth Gentry is a for profit business, his website has untold books of error for sale on "Donation"?

Can users obtain books free of charge, truly a sign of a biblical ministry?

website: www.KennethGentry.com.

$Real Big Smiles$

 

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He wasn't speaking of the Eternal river of life seen in Zechariah 14:8, Ezekiel 47:12 or Revelation 22:1

So where was the scripture he spoke of ?....You cannot get away with just denying it, you need an answer.
Believers have eternal life now. The growth and depth of the river is the church going worldwide with the gospel of the kingdom

 

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Kenneth Gentry is a for profit business, his website has untold books of error for sale on "Donation"?

Can users obtain books free of charge, truly a sign of a biblical ministry?

website: www.KennethGentry.com.

$Real Big Smiles$

his Revelation commentary has just been completed . he has taken 8 years to compile it. Do you think he should labor for free???
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?

10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

 

[Truth7t7]

his Revelation commentary has just been completed . he has taken 8 years to compile it. Do you think he should labor for free???
9 For it is written in the law of Moses, thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?

10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.

13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Ken Gentry is in the same vein of the rest of the for profit $orgs$ teachings in error

2 Peter 2:1-3KJV
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Matthew 10:7-8KJV
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

 

[Truth7t7]

So where was the scripture he spoke of ?....You cannot get away with just denying it, you need an answer.
Believers have eternal life now. The growth and depth of the river is the church going worldwide with the gospel of the kingdom

Your symbolic allegory of the future river of life in the Eternal kingdom below is fiction on steroids, "Error"

Yes you claim the future (Eternal Kingdom's) river of life seen below is a symbolic allegory

Is the tree of life, its fruit and healing leaves also a symbolic allegory?

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

 

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Ken Gentry is in the same vein of the rest of the for profit $orgs$ teachings in error

2 Peter 2:1-3KJV
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Matthew 10:7-8KJV
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

This post exposes you as imbecilic. Have you read any of His books?
His book on the Greatness of the Great Commission is one of the best works available.
I know you think your posts, and little tweets are equal, but you are a bit deluded with that.
Keep this kind of idiotic post on your premill, wild speculation threads.

 

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Truth7t7,
[Your symbolic allegory of the future river of life in the Eternal kingdom below is fiction on steroids, "Error"]

Because you cannot explain it or understand it does not make it so.

for anyone not infected with hyper literal speculation, give this a listen;

 

[Truth7t7]

Truth7t7,
[Your symbolic allegory of the future river of life in the Eternal kingdom below is fiction on steroids, "Error"]

Because you cannot explain it or understand it does not make it so.

for anyone not infected with hyper literal speculation, give this a listen;

You deny a future literal eternal kingdom with the literal river of life present, and you claim I'm infected with "hyper literal speculation", Big Smiles to you and Gentry's teachings in grave error!

Your symbolic allegory of the future river of life in the Eternal kingdom below is fiction on steroids, "Error"

Yes you claim the future (Eternal Kingdom's) river of life seen below is a symbolic allegory

Is the tree of life, its fruit and healing leaves also a symbolic allegory?

Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

 

[Truth7t7]

This post exposes you as imbecilic. Have you read any of His books?
His book on the Greatness of the Great Commission is one of the best works available.
I know you think your posts, and little tweets are equal, but you are a bit deluded with that.
Keep this kind of idiotic post on your premill, wild speculation threads.

Gentry is a "False Teacher" that claims Zechariah 14 took place in 70AD, heretical in my opinion, as it pertains to the (Day Of The Lord) in the second coming of Jesus Christ, in the Eternal Kingdom being established in the New Heaven and Earth

 

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Gentry is a "False Teacher" that claims Zechariah 14 took place in 70AD, heretical in my opinion, as it pertains to the (Day Of The Lord) in the second coming of Jesus Christ, in the Eternal Kingdom being established in the New Heaven and Earth

I have no time for a clown like you who slanders a Godly teacher. Take your narrow minded views elsewhere.
Those interested in this thread look to scripture, not your pronouncements and speculations.
You have not been responsive to what is offered, but seek to undermine any study.
have fun with your micro chips, atom bombs , tricky anti christs, horse soldiers, the blood of horses shoulder high, ...there are not enough horses in the world for that to happen, but your hyper literal ideas, call for it,lol...
You are not even considering anything offered so, go on and speculate with the two Ron's

 

[Truth7t7]

I have no time for a clown like you who slanders a Godly teacher. Take your narrow minded views elsewhere.
Those interested in this thread look to scripture, not your pronouncements and speculations.
You have not been responsive to what is offered, but seek to undermine any study.
have fun with your micro chips, atom bombs , tricky anti christs, horse soldiers, the blood of horses shoulder high, ...there are not enough horses in the world for that to happen, but your hyper literal ideas, call for it,lol...
You are not even considering anything offered so, go on and speculate with the two Ron's

Gentry is a "False Teacher" in the same realm of Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, and the likes, no different!

Teaching Zechariah chapter 14 took place in 70AD?

Out to lunch is a big understatement!

When you post your threads, make sure to mention, "no opposing views welcome", smiles!

 

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Gentry is a "False Teacher" in the same realm of Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, and the likes, no different!

Teaching Zechariah chapter 14 took place in 70AD, out to lunch is a big understatement

When you post your thread, make sure to mention, no opposing views welcome, smiles!

You have not interacted with most of the posted materials. You cannot, so i understand that as you have no answers.
Repeating your defective posting does not make them turn to truth. You are welcome to your ideas, but this thread is not for failed defective dispensational premill ideas to be set forth.
Start your own thread, you offer nothing new, just keep repeating your errors without answers for the postmill guys.
I will help any who want to look.
You do not, so I am content to let you post to yourself.
You failed to answer many posts;
Once again;
The Day of the Lord The “the day of the Lord” appears frequently in Scripture, particularly in the Old Testament prophets;
(Isa 13:6, 9;

6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Eze 13:5;5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.

Joel 1:15; 2:1, 11;

Am 5:18, 20;

Ob 15; 15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

Zep 1:7;
14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

Mal 4:5).5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

It also appears in the New Testament (Ac 2:20; 1Co 5:5; 1Th 5:2; 2Th 2:2; 2Pe 3:10; Rev 6:17; 16:14).

The concept can appear even apart from the full phrase, “day of the Lord.”
Scripture calls it ;

a “day of punishment” (Isa 10:3),

a “day of doom” (Jer 51:2),

a “day of trouble” (Eze 7:7),

a “day of darkness” (Joel 2:2),

a “day of the Lord’s anger” (Zep 2:2).

Or prophets may simply call it “that day” (Isa2:11, 17; 7:18; 11:10; Jer 4:9; 30:7; Eze 24:26; 29:21; Hos 1:5; 2:16, 18; Joel 3:18; Am 2:16; 8:3; Mic 2:4).

The “day of the Lord” may be “sometimes used by the prophets to refer to any specific period of time in which the God of Israel intervenes in human affairs to save and judge” and “invariably the Day of the Lord is associated with acts of violent judgment” (DBI 196, 197). This concept always appears in the singular form, as an individual day.

Nevertheless, “the ‘day of the Lord’ is not a one-time occurrence” for “there have been days of the Lord in the past” (EDBT 147).

We see them coming against Babylon (Isa 13:6, 9),

Egypt (Eze 30:3–4),

Jerusalem (Joel 1:14–15),

Edom (Oba 8, 15), and others.

He Shall Have Dominion , Gentry pg 381,382

The symbolism of disruptions of Sun, moon, and stars, accompany these judgments...you have no answer to any of this.

notice , Jesus gave the indication of the day of the Lord happening to Jerusalem with Mal4:5 , at the time of John the baptist
Mal 4:5).5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

 

[Truth7t7]

You have not interacted with most of the posted materials. You cannot, so i understand that as you have no answers.
Repeating your defective posting does not make them turn to truth. You are welcome to your ideas, but this thread is not for failed defective dispensational premill ideas to be set forth.
Start your own thread, you offer nothing new, just keep repeating your errors without answers for the postmill guys.
I will help any who want to look.
You do not, so I am content to let you post to yourself.
You failed to answer many posts;
Once again;
The Day of the Lord The “the day of the Lord” appears frequently in Scripture, particularly in the Old Testament prophets;
(Isa 13:6, 9;

6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Eze 13:5;5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.

Joel 1:15; 2:1, 11;

Am 5:18, 20;

Ob 15; 15 For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

Zep 1:7;
14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

Mal 4:5).5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

It also appears in the New Testament (Ac 2:20; 1Co 5:5; 1Th 5:2; 2Th 2:2; 2Pe 3:10; Rev 6:17; 16:14).

The concept can appear even apart from the full phrase, “day of the Lord.”
Scripture calls it ;

a “day of punishment” (Isa 10:3),

a “day of doom” (Jer 51:2),

a “day of trouble” (Eze 7:7),

a “day of darkness” (Joel 2:2),

a “day of the Lord’s anger” (Zep 2:2).

Or prophets may simply call it “that day” (Isa2:11, 17; 7:18; 11:10; Jer 4:9; 30:7; Eze 24:26; 29:21; Hos 1:5; 2:16, 18; Joel 3:18; Am 2:16; 8:3; Mic 2:4).

The “day of the Lord” may be “sometimes used by the prophets to refer to any specific period of time in which the God of Israel intervenes in human affairs to save and judge” and “invariably the Day of the Lord is associated with acts of violent judgment” (DBI 196, 197). This concept always appears in the singular form, as an individual day.

Nevertheless, “the ‘day of the Lord’ is not a one-time occurrence” for “there have been days of the Lord in the past” (EDBT 147).

We see them coming against Babylon (Isa 13:6, 9),

Egypt (Eze 30:3–4),

Jerusalem (Joel 1:14–15),

Edom (Oba 8, 15), and others.

He Shall Have Dominion , Gentry pg 381,382

The symbolism of disruptions of Sun, moon, and stars, accompany these judgments...you have no answer to any of this.

notice , Jesus gave the indication of the day of the Lord happening to Jerusalem with Mal4:5 , at the time of John the baptist
Mal 4:5).5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

You have been clearly shown (The Day Of The Lord) seen in Zechariah 14:1 is the very same event as that seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13, when this earth is dissolved by fire

You remain silent on men being consumed as they stand on their feet in Zechariah 14:12 showing this fire judgment, will you erase this literal event in more of Gentry's symbolic allegory?

I'm waiting in suspence for your response, will it be more of the leave I dont like your opposition?

 

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You have been clearly shown (The Day Of The Lord) seen in Zechariah 14:1 is the very same as that seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13, when this earth is dissolved by fire

Yo remain silent on men being consumed as they stand on their feet in Zechariah 14:12, showing this fire judgment, will you erase this lateral event in more Gentry symbolic allegory?

You are not answering anything i put forth, so i feel no need to answer you. This has been answered......you do not want to look. Thats fine...

 

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You are not answering anything i put forth, so i feel no need to answer you. This has been answered......you do not want to look. Thats fine...

It appears you are looking into a mirror of your own comment and accusation