Covid-19 Vaccines: have you had a jab?

[Josho]

not all of these cells come from abortion, miscarriages were also used.

Why are fetal cells used to make vaccines? http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/me...vaccine/VaccineDevelopment_FetalCellLines.pdf
Historical fetal cell lines were derived in the 1960’s and 1970’s from two elective abortions and have been
used to create vaccines for diseases such as hepatitis A, rubella, and rabies. Abortions from which fetal
cells were obtained were elective and were not done for the purpose of vaccine development.

The fetal cell lines being used to produce some of the potential COVID -19 vaccines are from two sources:
● HEK-293: A kidney cell line that was isolated from a fetus in 1973 (undisclosed origin, from either
a spontaneous miscarriage or an elective abortion)
● PER.C6: A retinal cell line that was isolated from an aborted fetus in 1985

But this was done a long time ago. It's my understanding that they are not needing them anymore. Am I right?

@Cristo Rei @TLHKAJ the current covid-19 vaccines do not contain any cells from an aborted baby. Fetal cell lines, grown in a laboratory were used in the development of the covid-19 vaccines.

You can read the full article in the link below.

Does the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine contain aborted fetal cells? — GPs can

Q: So what actually is being used to develop the vaccines?

A: Fetal cell lines, which are cells grown in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from two elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s

Current fetal cell lines are replicated cells thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. No new fetal cell lines are being developed for these purposes, as the original cells were modified to divide at infinitum

And would also like to point out Genesis 50:20 and a summary of the true story of Joseph.

The brothers of Joseph wanted Joseph gone, they threw him in the pit, they even thought about killing him, but ended up selling him into slavery, they even painted his coat of many colors in blood, and lied to Jacob about what had happened, but what the enemy meant for bad, God eventually turned what the enemy meant for bad into good, as a result Joseph found favour with Pharoah being able to interpret Pharoah's dream and was made the Governor of Egypt.


What we get out of this is what the enemy meant for bad, God can turn that bad situation around into good.

God has turned a bad situation around to good before, and he can do it again. We have seen this time after time after time throughout history.

And it's only by God's grace that we have these vaccines today.

 

[Cristo Rei]

@Cristo Rei @TLHKAJ the current covid-19 vaccines do not contain any cells from an aborted baby. Fetal cell lines, grown in a laboratory were used in the development of the covid-19 vaccines.

You can read the full article in the link below.

Does the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine contain aborted fetal cells? — GPs can

Q: So what actually is being used to develop the vaccines?

A: Fetal cell lines, which are cells grown in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from two elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s

Current fetal cell lines are replicated cells thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. No new fetal cell lines are being developed for these purposes, as the original cells were modified to divide at infinitum

And would also like to point out Genesis 50:20 and a summary of the true story of Joseph.

The brothers of Joseph wanted Joseph gone, they threw him in the pit, they even thought about killing him, but ended up selling him into slavery, they even painted his coat of many colors in blood, and lied to Jacob about what had happened, but what the enemy meant for bad, God eventually turned what the enemy meant for bad into good, as a result Joseph found favour with Pharoah being able to interpret Pharoah's dream and was made the Governor of Egypt.


What we get out of this is what the enemy meant for bad, God can turn that bad situation around into good.

God has turned a bad situation around to good before, and he can do it again. We have seen this time after time after time throughout history.

And it's only by God's grace that we have these vaccines today.

Fake news... Many babies were sacrificed for these vaccines... That why most of the bishops are against it...

 

[Truman]

@Cristo Rei @TLHKAJ the current covid-19 vaccines do not contain any cells from an aborted baby. Fetal cell lines, grown in a laboratory were used in the development of the covid-19 vaccines.

You can read the full article in the link below.

Does the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine contain aborted fetal cells? — GPs can

Q: So what actually is being used to develop the vaccines?

A: Fetal cell lines, which are cells grown in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from two elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s

Current fetal cell lines are replicated cells thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. No new fetal cell lines are being developed for these purposes, as the original cells were modified to divide at infinitum

And would also like to point out Genesis 50:20 and a summary of the true story of Joseph.

The brothers of Joseph wanted Joseph gone, they threw him in the pit, they even thought about killing him, but ended up selling him into slavery, they even painted his coat of many colors in blood, and lied to Jacob about what had happened, but what the enemy meant for bad, God eventually turned what the enemy meant for bad into good, as a result Joseph found favour with Pharoah being able to interpret Pharoah's dream and was made the Governor of Egypt.


What we get out of this is what the enemy meant for bad, God can turn that bad situation around into good.

God has turned a bad situation around to good before, and he can do it again. We have seen this time after time after time throughout history.

And it's only by God's grace that we have these vaccines today.

The only way I will take the vaccine is if they hold me down and give it to me. The last time I went against the inner witness and took medical advice, I ended up in emerg., dead. I saw Jesus in the New Jerusalem. I went through months of agony afterwards.

 

[Josho]

The only way I will take the vaccine is if they hold me down and give it to me. The last time I went against the inner witness and took medical advice, I ended up in emerg., dead. I saw Jesus in the New Jerusalem. I went through months of agony afterwards.

Do what God leads you to do, but also know God has led some people to get these vaccines..

 

[Cristo Rei]

Besides, even the article admits that these cells were grown from murdered babies...
You've refuted yourself... Again... ...

Supporting these experimental injections = Normalizing abortion

 

[Truman]

Do what God leads you to do, but also know God has led some people to get these vaccines..

If that's what they want to do, then that's what they should do. I believe God gave us a free will for a reason.

 

[Josho]

Besides, even the article admits that these cells were grown from murdered babies...
You've refuted yourself... Again... ...

Supporting these experimental injections = Normalizing abortion

Pauly, this is exactly like blaming white men today for aboriginal genocide hundreds of years ago.

The people who developed these vaccines have nothing to do with the abortions of those 2 babies from the 1970s and 1980s. If you read properly the cells used to develop these covid-19 vaccines were not from aborted babies, the cells were grown in a lab.....

 

[Cristo Rei]

Pauly, this is exactly like blaming white men for aboriginal genocide hundreds of years ago.

The people who developed these vaccines have nothing to do with the abortions of those 2 babies from the 1970s and 1980s. If you read properly the cells used to develop these covid-19 vaccines were not from aborted babies, the cells were grown in a lab.....

Grown in a lab using murdered babies... I know...
And many more murdered babies are used in the research and development stage of vaccines as well...
This is the concern of many bishops and priests for this can only be the work of the evil one

 

[Josho]

Pauly, this is exactly like blaming white men today for aboriginal genocide hundreds of years ago.

The people who developed these vaccines have nothing to do with the abortions of those 2 babies from the 1970s and 1980s. If you read properly the cells used to develop these covid-19 vaccines were not from aborted babies, the cells were grown in a lab.....

@Rita perhaps you might have something you would like to add

 

[Brakelite]

I can be a bratt!

Hasn't gone unnoticed.

 

[Brakelite]

One thing I remember really liking in the German fare was the Kartoffelsalat [potato salad]. My wife makes such a good American style potato salad I doubt that in my set ways I could fully appreciate the German foods any more... but who knows. I plan to stay home and eat anyway...anymore... LOL

Potato salad... Nectar of the...ummm... Gods.

 

[Cristo Rei]

@Rita perhaps you might have something you would like to add

Pro experimental needle = Pro Abortion

 

[Rita]

@Rita perhaps you might have something you would like to add

I don’t really want to get into yet another debate about the vaccines, it’s all getting a bit of ‘ let’s go round in circles again ‘ …
However I think it would only be normalising abortion IF the abortions were done just for this purpose, if that was the sole reason a baby was aborted. Regardless of what happens afterwards, the damage and wrong has already happened.
Not sure this example will negate what I mean…. Say a person is beaten senseless , attacked and brought to the brink of death physically , but brain dead. Would it be wrong, considering he/ she is a victim of something wrong, to be used in organ donation to save the lives of others. Or would you perhaps see it as something good coming out of something wrong and bad…..
…..not talking about the present vaccines because I know many here believe they are wrong, but past vaccines that have eradicated so many things and saved so many lives. Does that perhaps give another prospective to consider. All of us had childhood vaccinations, and I doubt our parents even considered the source or how they came about, they were grateful for the solution. We have All benefitted , whether we like it or not.
Before anyone jumps down my throat, I am pro life x
And I have had two doses of vaccine, and will no doubt have the boosters………..well the Astra Zeneca.
You know a news story just came to mind, a vegan has been blasted for riding a horse, that is like taking one thing you consider wrong and applying it to something that is just so detached !!
Sorry, not completely relevant, but sometimes the thinking in this place just goes out of the window.
Rita

 

[Cristo Rei]

And I have had two doses of vaccine, and will no doubt have the boosters………..well the Astra Zeneca.

You changed your mind? Good luck with it...

 

[Rita]

You changed your mind? Good luck with it...

No I didn’t , I was always open to have a booster. It was the MRNA ones that I didn’t want to be forced to have. That was what I was fighting for , the right to choose for myself , and I won that right at work. The option will be mine when and if it is made mandatory……….and I will make my choice in the future.
Rita

 

[Brakelite]

I see the FDA has refused to approve the Pfizer boosters. Curious I am. I was thinking the Pfizer was the more acceptable of the choices on offer. Mmmm.

 

[TLHKAJ]

@Cristo Rei @TLHKAJ the current covid-19 vaccines do not contain any cells from an aborted baby. Fetal cell lines, grown in a laboratory were used in the development of the covid-19 vaccines.

You can read the full article in the link below.

Does the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine contain aborted fetal cells? — GPs can

Q: So what actually is being used to develop the vaccines?

A: Fetal cell lines, which are cells grown in a laboratory. They descend from cells taken from two elective abortions in the 1970s and 1980s

Current fetal cell lines are replicated cells thousands of generations removed from the original fetal tissue. No new fetal cell lines are being developed for these purposes, as the original cells were modified to divide at infinitum

And would also like to point out Genesis 50:20 and a summary of the true story of Joseph.

The brothers of Joseph wanted Joseph gone, they threw him in the pit, they even thought about killing him, but ended up selling him into slavery, they even painted his coat of many colors in blood, and lied to Jacob about what had happened, but what the enemy meant for bad, God eventually turned what the enemy meant for bad into good, as a result Joseph found favour with Pharoah being able to interpret Pharoah's dream and was made the Governor of Egypt.


What we get out of this is what the enemy meant for bad, God can turn that bad situation around into good.

God has turned a bad situation around to good before, and he can do it again. We have seen this time after time after time throughout history.

And it's only by God's grace that we have these vaccines today.

I disagree, @Josho.
What if you're starving to death and someone offers you a baby to eat....good out of something bad?? It's the same thing.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Pauly, this is exactly like blaming white men today for aboriginal genocide hundreds of years ago.

The people who developed these vaccines have nothing to do with the abortions of those 2 babies from the 1970s and 1980s. If you read properly the cells used to develop these covid-19 vaccines were not from aborted babies, the cells were grown in a lab.....

There's no way to get around it. It is still selfish and condoning of those babies's murders. Total disregard of those lives.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I don’t really want to get into yet another debate about the vaccines, it’s all getting a bit of ‘ let’s go round in circles again ‘ …
However I think it would only be normalising abortion IF the abortions were done just for this purpose, if that was the sole reason a baby was aborted. Regardless of what happens afterwards, the damage and wrong has already happened.
Not sure this example will negate what I mean…. Say a person is beaten senseless , attacked and brought to the brink of death physically , but brain dead. Would it be wrong, considering he/ she is a victim of something wrong, to be used in organ donation to save the lives of others. Or would you perhaps see it as something good coming out of something wrong and bad…..
…..not talking about the present vaccines because I know many here believe they are wrong, but past vaccines that have eradicated so many things and saved so many lives. Does that perhaps give another prospective to consider. All of us had childhood vaccinations, and I doubt our parents even considered the source or how they came about, they were grateful for the solution. We have All benefitted , whether we like it or not.
Before anyone jumps down my throat, I am pro life x
And I have had two doses of vaccine, and will no doubt have the boosters………..well the Astra Zeneca.
You know a news story just came to mind, a vegan has been blasted for riding a horse, that is like taking one thing you consider wrong and applying it to something that is just so detached !!
Sorry, not completely relevant, but sometimes the thinking in this place just goes out of the window.
Rita

Yet, the murder of that person was both WRONG and ILLEGAL. And they chose to be a donor. The murder of babies is both WRONG and LEGAL. It IS condoning abortion.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Btw ....my daughter who got C19 recently, along with all the adults on vacation with her ....guess who did NOT get C19? The children ....my grandson was perfectly fine. He is breastfed. But the other children who are older .... perfectly fine even after multiple exposures.