Catholic issues

[JohnPaul]

and those popes always wore decked out clothing , had folks kissing rings . JESUS said to beware of such men .
JESUS said NOT TO LORD up yourself over anyone . THE ENTIRE LINE OF THE PAPACY is not be heeded even once .
JESUS HIMSELF never had folks kissing rings on his hands . Peter and john , paul and barnabas always
shut down worship of men when they saw it . YET all the popes have always LORDED IT OVER the flocks .
Always dressed up and made the clothing broad . ALWAYS had men kissing rings and bowing before them .
DID PAUL, Baranabas , PETER HIMSELF or john or james EVER DO Such a thing .
THEY LIE about peter being the first pope . TRUTH IS , PETER is gonna judge that church on the day of the LORD as will all saints .
They pray to mary , they pray to saints , they pray to angels . HOW GOOD and WHOLESOME is THAT . ITS BLASPHEMY .
IF we dont make our stand NOW , Then like the rest we gonna fall .
Stand on the solid truth of CHRIST my dear friend . I hope that encouraged you my friend . LET no man enter into convenant with the CC .
Instead make our stand now and do all out of great love to warn any soul to not enter into her chambers .

I agree with you Amigo, they are just lying to themselves everywhere you turn there is idolatry and Mary worship, and also Pope worship, there is no such thing as a Pope in scripture it’s man made, this guy Francis is a farce.

 

[Enoch111]

You quote verses of scripture about the church without explaining what the church is and who is part of it and who is not.

He does not need to explain it. Church = the Catholic Church. Anyone outside that church will not be saved.

Also, if the pope is the bishop of Rome, then an Italian should always be the pope (preferably a Roman). So what is an Argentinian Communist doing in the Vatican? Subverting the Catholic Church.

 

[JohnPaul]

He does not need to explain it. Church = the Catholic Church. Anyone outside that church will not be saved.

Also, if the pope is the bishop of Rome, then an Italian should always be the pope (preferably a Roman). So what is an Argentinian Communist doing in the Vatican? Subverting the Catholic Church.

Pope Francis is Italian both his parents are Italian so he is full blooded Italian, he was just born in Argentina.

 

[theefaith]

I agree with you Amigo, they are just lying to themselves everywhere you turn there is idolatry and Mary worship, and also Pope worship, there is no such thing as a Pope in scripture it’s man made, this guy Francis is a farce.

francis not a valid pope? Maybe
But the papacy is another matter

Isa 22:21-22 keys father
Matt 16:18 keys given to Peter
Pope is Italian for papa or father

 

[theefaith]

Pope Francis is Italian both his parents are Italian so he is full blooded Italian, he was just born in Argentina.

thanks Enoch
Ya that’s what the want to know?

glad to hear you oppose communism

And yes only those in the new covenant by faith and baptism have the possibility of salvation

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

 

[amigo de christo]

The apostles

JESUS and the apostels . And by apostels i mean the biblical ones . As in i am gonna test
all men against that bible . The LORD has kept me safe from false doctrines of men .
The CC is and was loaded full of them . Come ye out from amongst them and be Ye holy .

 

[Grailhunter]

TOMATO....TOMOTO
What is the Pope? Why do they need one? Those dawg gum Catholics!
What is power and how do you use it. Why is there a leader for the Catholics? Isn't Christ enough! Get the tar and feathers Joe!

Well lets see....

General Baptist
Danny Dunivan President

Southern Baptist
Ed Litton President

United Methodist
Bishop Cynthia Fierro Harvey council President

Assembly of God USA
Doug E. Clay General Superintendent

Pentecostal Church of God
General bishop Dr. Wayman C. Ming

Of course all of these have councils and assemblies. The leadership of denominations.
They are called different names because they believe different things.
I am multi-denominational and most of the Christians I meet in the pews are good people.
We can all bash the Catholics and the Protestants for their past. The Catholics had 1700 years to make every mistake and atrocity in the book.....against man. In a few short years LOL 500 years, most just over 100 years, the Protestants have fractured Christ's church into 30,000 denominations....an atrocity against God.

I could careless about the leadership of any church....it turns political very quick. My love and loyalty is for the Christians in the pews. In today's world --- We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. --- Benjamin Franklin

Love one another...AHHH! It would benefit us all and the church that Christ started for us to join together and stand against evil.....despite the leadership of any denomination and despite our differences.

 

[Grailhunter]

 

[JohnPaul]

TOMATO....TOMOTO
What is the Pope? Why do they need one? Those dawg gum Catholics!
What is power and how do you use it. Why is there a leader for the Catholics? Isn't Christ enough! Get the tar and feathers Joe!

Well lets see....

General Baptist
Danny Dunivan President

Southern Baptist
Ed Litton President

United Methodist
Bishop Cynthia Fierro Harvey council President

Assembly of God USA
Doug E. Clay General Superintendent

Pentecostal Church of God
General bishop Dr. Wayman C. Ming

Of course all of these have councils and assemblies. The leadership of denominations.
They are called different names because they believe different things.
I am multi-denominational and most of the Christians I meet in the pews are good people.
We can all bash the Catholics and the Protestants for their past. The Catholics had 1700 years to make every mistake and atrocity in the book.....against man. In a few short years LOL 500 years, most just over 100 years, the Protestants have fractured Christ's church into 30,000 denominations....an atrocity against God.

I could careless about the leadership of any church....it turns political very quick. My love and loyalty is for the Christians in the pews. In today's world --- We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. --- Benjamin Franklin

Love one another...AHHH! It would benefit us all and the church that Christ started for us to join together and stand against evil.....despite the leadership of any denomination and despite our differences.

I agree with you I don’t hate Catholics, I’m a former Catholic myself, I’ve said it before I don’t care what denomination you belong to as long as you believe in Jesus Christ our Savior and that he died on the Cross for our sins and is the only begotten so of God almighty, then your good in my book.

I gave a reason on this forum why I stopped going to the Catholic Church is all, I don’t hate Catholics that’s non Christian to hate especially other Christians.

I’m simply Christian no other title.

 

[Grailhunter]

I agree with you I don’t hate Catholics, I’m a former Catholic myself, I’ve said it before I don’t care what denomination you belong to as long as you believe in Jesus Christ our Savior and that he died on the Cross for our sins and is the only begotten so of God almighty, then your good in my book.

I gave a reason on this forum why I stopped going to the Catholic Church is all, I don’t hate Catholics that’s non Christian to hate especially other Christians.

I’m simply Christian no other title.

It seems like there are horror stories that people have had with every denomination. I am sorry that they experience that. It does not matter if it is a Catholic church or a Protestant church.
How many here do not go to church? But that is not the answer. I call them the church of one.
Do we think that Christ and the Apostles would say, Go off and come up with your own personnel beliefs?
There was a reason they were told to assemble. If nothing else to come together and raise their voices to praise the Lord. It is part of Christian beliefs.
Fundamentalism is about getting back to the basics.....well they need to do that....assemble....find a good church....unite with other Christians.
You know that I give the Calvinists a hard time. But they are Christians and I know a lot of fine Calvinists. It is their theology that I object to.
The history of the Catholics is a study of human nature and how it can go wrong. And not considering the Vatican at all, the Catholics in the pews are good people that believe in Christ.
The Catholics have done a lot of good. At one time I use to give to the Mother Teresa ministries. The Protestants went the other way...they came up with a bunch of man-made sins and based their rightness with God on what they did not do. You mention doing good to some of these Fundamentalists and they like to flip out.
At this point we cannot go back....too many denominations...the best you can hope for is finding some kind of common ground so we can stand against evil.

 

[amadeus]

The apostles

Similarly you are resting on your belief as to who are apostles today. That is your faith, not mine nor would it be in the faith of most people on this forum. Only God gives the increase, my friend. Thank you for the discussion.

 

[Philip James]

I agree with you Amigo, they are just lying to themselves everywhere you turn there is idolatry and Mary worship, and also Pope worship, there is no such thing as a Pope in scripture it’s man made, this guy Francis is a farce.

Et tu JohnPaul?

Why be so harsh? Do you know our hearts?

Will you stand as the accusor of the brethren?

Pax et Bonum

 

[Philip James]

If nothing else to come together and raise their voices to praise the Lord.

It is right, and just, that we do so!

Maranatha!

 

[tabletalk]

A forum for anyone with questions about the catholic faith or church!

In the Catholic Eucharistic celebration, at the words of Consecration when the substance of the bread and wine has been transformed:
using only one word; what do you now call the wafer?

 

[Philip James]

In the Catholic Eucharistic celebration, at the words of Consecration when the substance of the bread and wine has been transformed:
using only one word; what do you now call the wafer?

Lord!

Pax et Bonum!

 

[theefaith]

JESUS and the apostels . And by apostels i mean the biblical ones . As in i am gonna test
all men against that bible . The LORD has kept me safe from false doctrines of men .
The CC is and was loaded full of them . Come ye out from amongst them and be Ye holy .

where does the Bible say that the Bible is a Christians rule of faith or source of truth?
What is the pillar and ground of truth?

 

[theefaith]

In the Catholic Eucharistic celebration, at the words of Consecration when the substance of the bread and wine has been transformed:
using only one word; what do you now call the wafer?

Jesus

 

[theefaith]

TOMATO....TOMOTO
What is the Pope? Why do they need one? Those dawg gum Catholics!
What is power and how do you use it. Why is there a leader for the Catholics? Isn't Christ enough! Get the tar and feathers Joe!

Well lets see....

General Baptist
Danny Dunivan President

Southern Baptist
Ed Litton President

United Methodist
Bishop Cynthia Fierro Harvey council President

Assembly of God USA
Doug E. Clay General Superintendent

Pentecostal Church of God
General bishop Dr. Wayman C. Ming

Of course all of these have councils and assemblies. The leadership of denominations.
They are called different names because they believe different things.
I am multi-denominational and most of the Christians I meet in the pews are good people.
We can all bash the Catholics and the Protestants for their past. The Catholics had 1700 years to make every mistake and atrocity in the book.....against man. In a few short years LOL 500 years, most just over 100 years, the Protestants have fractured Christ's church into 30,000 denominations....an atrocity against God.

I could careless about the leadership of any church....it turns political very quick. My love and loyalty is for the Christians in the pews. In today's world --- We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. --- Benjamin Franklin

Love one another...AHHH! It would benefit us all and the church that Christ started for us to join together and stand against evil.....despite the leadership of any denomination and despite our differences.

isa 22:21-22 matt 16:18-19

 

[amigo de christo]

where does the Bible say that the Bible is a Christians rule of faith or source of truth?
What is the pillar and ground of truth?

TRUST in GOD , not men . I love all , but i trust in only GOD . GET IN That bible .
Rome duped you and all generations that sat under her .
What is the easiest way to LORD over a flock . You go ahead and make the bible seem GOOD
yet you add things like , WELL ONLY YOUR SPIRITUAL FATHERS can give you the real understanding .
AKA , SIT UNDER US , WE WILL LEAD YOU . You cant know anything , SAYS THEY , lest you learn from us .
Many leaders do this to their churches . They make the scrips seem hard to understand , they make their flocks
to TRUST IN THEIR EVERY WORD , and they TWIST STUFF . ROME DOES IT , so does her protestant daughters .
MEN who know not God , have always loved the pre emenince . HENCE THEY SET it up . Popes through all ages
have had rings kissed and LORDED it over the flocks . SO does the protestant realm as well .
God , by his merciful grace showed me something so simple a small child can see it .
JUST TRUST IN ME HE SAYS , THE SPIRIT can reveal what IT INSPIRED . AKA we really can learn the bible for ourselves .
BUT beware cause along comes satan , and satan and his CC men and protestant men , SAY YE cant learn the truth
without OUR LEADING YOU . YEAH RIGHT , i say . GOD IS WITH THE LAMBS .
And satan , and His CC and protestant realm , WILL ALWAYS USE THE BAD EXAMPLES TO JUSITFY WHY THEY DO As they do .
In other words they take from bad examples , WHO may have also said the Bible was all they need , YET THEY NEVER FOLLOWED IT
and did bad things . THEN satan comes and says , SEE , no man can learn the bible without ...........................etc , etc .
BUT I SAY , YES WE CAN . FOR GOD IS WITH THE LAMBS .
My pproblem is not with structure , aka deacons , bishops , and so forth , CAUSE that is the true pattern .
ITS with the deacons , elders , leaders , popes , etc etc , CAUSE THEY TEACH LIES and FALSEHOODS .
Something that many who sit under them and take their word as gosple truth , cannot see . FOR as i said , THEIR TRUST IS IN MEN
and that is HOW one gets deceived . FLEE THE RCC FOREVER MY FRIEND , before its too late FOREVER .

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus

SOLID PROOF that you have done what even israel of old did . YE have turned the GLORY OF THE UNCORRUPTIBLE GOD
into an image , or in your case a WAFER . I just PROVED YALLS FALLACY .
YE just said the WAFER IS ACTUALLY JESUS . YET IT AINT MY FRIEND . ITS JUST an object ,
Your church is guilty of what paul himself warned against .
THEY have changed the image of the uncorruptiable GOD into corrupatble images made by men .
I pray to GOD everyone sees this response and runs so fast from the CC and never looks back .