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[MatthewG]

So then I suppose all suffering that Christians endure is the will of God and he gives us the comfort - strength - we need through his grace.

Yes ma’-am.

People believe its the suffering of the flesh and sufferings that others cause; which we have caused suffering towards others as well.

It is about doing what is right in what Gods will is.

Just did a 30 minute lesson of 1 Corinthians 15: 1-34.

He says something profound at verse 30 Nlt “and why should we ourselves risk our lives hour by hour?, 31 For I swear my brothers and sisters, that I face death daily. This is as certain as my pride in what Christ Jesus our Lord has done in you.

 

[MatthewG]

Of course that is to the church in Corinthian the only application it would seem to have for us is that because God is the supreme authority we will die and be resurrected again and God will see our soul (heart/mind/emotion). Wouldn’t it be better for us to live for him rather than to say hey let’s eat and drink and feast for tomorrow we die!

It’s important to remember these things. Paul also addressed that some believe Christ paid for their sins however did not believe in the resurrection they died at a loss. They will be resurrected however they will be at a loss for not believing the resurrection which saves a person to the Kingdom of God.

They would be in revelation sense of 22 outside of the gate.

 

[MatthewG]

The suffering of Christ is something maybe not taught on a lot of just may be tossed to the wayside as a reality of what the Apostles went through.

They gave their life for the Gospel of Christ : also people make it as seem as though everything in the Bible must followed and make strict religious demands.

Some things may be not taught in church’s and it really leaves the responsibility to figure out what the Bible says up to the person who is able to pick it up and read it.

And to read it in prayer and help by the spirit to help understand.

It’s difficult and I don’t claim to know everything just teach what I understand and admit when I don’t understand something.

Am just a human being with flaws like everyone else here on this forum site and am far away from perfect.

Consider 1 Peter chapter 4


“Dear friends, don’t be surprised at the fiery trials you are going through, as if something strange were happening to you. Instead, be very glad—for these trials make you partners with Christ in his suffering, so that you will have the wonderful joy of seeing his glory when it is revealed to all the world. If you are insulted because you bear the name of Christ, you will be blessed, for the glorious Spirit of God rests upon you. If you suffer, however, it must not be for murder, stealing, making trouble, or prying into other people’s affairs. But it is no shame to suffer for being a Christian. Praise God for the privilege of being called by his name! For the time has come for judgment, and it must begin with God’s household. And if judgment begins with us, what terrible fate awaits those who have never obeyed God’s Good News? And also, “If the righteous are barely saved, what will happen to godless sinners?” So if you are suffering in a manner that pleases God, keep on doing what is right, and trust your lives to the God who created you, for he will never fail you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭4:12-19‬ ‭NLT‬‬


God bless you all and take care!!

 

[Nancy]

So then I suppose all suffering that Christians endure is the will of God and he gives us the comfort - strength - we need through his grace.

Hi Pearl,
You just made me think of:

2 Timothy 2:3
"Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
and:

1 Peter 2:20 KJV. "For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God."

It seems that there is a difference in suffering because of our foolishness like, if some young man decided to show off to his buddy's and dive off the highest cliff. Breaks his neck and becomes a Quadriplegic for life. I don't see this kind of suffering as suffering for the sake of Christ. NOT that God would not heal him, he might down the road sometime, who knows. But do you also see a difference in the reasons we suffer? IOW - suffering for His sake alone, pleases Him?
xo

 

[MatthewG]

The good news but also warnings to make sure you are not just believing in Jesus having died for your sin, but having faith in the resurrection.

I could be wrong ; never trust me, but trust God always check your Bible and see what it has to say. There is so much it does say.

 

[marks]

...or someone else's life.

I see God as the Ultimate Economist.

"Not wanting, nor wasting, He ruleth with might!"

I just LOVE the Smucker Family!

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

Thank for all your points @Ferris Bueller.

Sin can cause person to become callous and hateful.

Sin can cause an accident say being drunk and falling down and breaking the arm.

You’re right some type of thing will happen if you are not careful.

However the greatest miracle is a
Change of the heart of a person who comes to Christ… that is a miracle. From someone to be suffering in some way and end up coming to be enlightened to the knowledge of God and Christ and receive the spirit.

Is that not the most important thing to God?

The change of the heart?

 

[marks]

Sorry, but that's a cop out. @marks testified to being miraculously healed. Now either he was, or he wasn't. You either believe him, or you don't. By your response I take it you don't believe him. Why not? Do you think he was lying, mistaken and he's still sick, or his healing was not miraculous but came from something else?

I don't see it as a cop out myself.

@MatthewG

We don't have to believe each other as we express our opinions of our perceptions of our experiences. Because at the end of the day, there are three things I regard,

We don't always understand correctly.
This is not a matter of saving faith.
Unity in Christ and the Holy Spirit are more important then that we all think the same thing in all respects.

I believe that as we commit ourselves in love to each other, and as we function in those gifts He gives us, then these other matters are addressed.

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

Would you say the ultimate thing for God to see is the change of the heart in a person too, @marks, @Backlit ?

It’s important to God; Jesus walked around and told the Pharisees that their lips professed God however their heart was far away from him.

God reads the hearts and knows our hearts and without God our hearts are naturally inclined to be about the self: me me me, and not about God and others.

The greatest miracle to me is the transformation of a believers life by faith in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. The heart is changed towards the things of God.

 

[MatthewG]

I don't see it as a cop out myself.

@MatthewG

We don't have to believe each other's opinions of our perceptions of our experiences. Because at the end of the day, there are three things I regard,

We don't always understand correctly.
This is not a matter of saving faith.
Unity in Christ and the Holy Spirit are more important then that we all think the same thing in all respects.

I believe that as we commit ourselves in love to each other, and as we function in those gifts He gives us, then these other matters are addressed.

Much love!

I agree we don’t have to accept other people’s opinions or what they may say. It’s up to the individual to investigate and see what the Bible has to say. Of course I believe Jesus not walking around on this earth today to make a blind see see again, but the spirit of God is given to help see what is right and what is good by understanding the Will of God. That will is to love God and love others, 1 Thessalonians 5:12-23.

Always praise God for life. And thank him for what He has done. I understand all of you have been through your own problems and have your own problems but Gods grace is suffice to enough for you.

Or atleast it should be… Paul prayed three times for a thorn to be removed but the Lord said his grace is sufficient.

 

[marks]

Would you say the ultimate thing for God to see is the change of the heart in a person too, @marks, @Backlit ?

It’s important to God; Jesus walked around and told the Pharisees that their lips professed God however their heart was far away from him.

God reads the hearts and knows our hearts and without God our hearts are naturally inclined to be about the self: me me me, and not about God and others.

The greatest miracle to me is the transformation of a believers life by faith in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. The heart is changed towards the things of God.

Just to say, I make a small change in my post, just to clarify a small thing.

The one true needful change is from old man to new man, after that, everything else is gravy, as I see it. However, there so vastly much more, I've learned to just try to be open to receive whatever God gives.

I know someone who claims to have spent long lengths of time living in what I'd call a visionary spiritual realm, and while there are a number of reasons I don't find that credible, in what I read in the Bible, and in the fruit I've seen in them. It just doesn't seem real to me. But just the same, I recognize that I don't know all that is, and I recognize that God can and will do all that is good for us, and it seems to me that He's used miraculous interventions in my life at various times with various effect.

When I was 18, I stopped attempting suicide because I was getting the message I was wasting my time. I wasn't a Christian yet. I took a 4X lethal dose of a drug. And nothing happened. That was my 3rd or 4th try, I forget.

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

It may seem shallow to whoever reads this

The only hope we have in this life is the Gospel of Christ. Our bodies breakdown and we die. We mourn for the lost, though they are gone in that body they are resurrected and given a new spiritual body after here.

Im not really personally connected with any of you just hope the best for all of you out here.

The only real encouragement I have is trusting in God and the Lord Jesus Christ!

 

[MatthewG]

Just to say, I make a small change in my post, just to clarify a small thing.

The one true needful change is from old man to new man, after that, everything else is gravy, as I see it. However, there so vastly much more, I've learned to just try to be open to receive whatever God gives.

I know someone who claims to have spent long lengths of time living in what I'd call a visionary spiritual realm, and while there are a number of reasons I don't find that credible, in what I read in the Bible, and in the fruit I've seen in them. It just doesn't seem real to me. But just the same, I recognize that I don't know all that is, and I recognize that God can and will do all that is good for us, and it seems to me that He's used miraculous interventions in my life at various times with various effect.

When I was 18, I stopped attempting suicide because I was getting the message I was wasting my time. I wasn't a Christian yet. I took a 4X lethal dose of a drug. And nothing happened. That was my 3rd or 4th try, I forget.

Much love!

Thank you for sharing your life story. It will be encouraging to someone, @marks.
it’s not easy to be a Christian living in this flesh, and the flesh and spirit conflict with each other. I don’t find it easy, I find it difficult; though trusting God does help a lot.

 

[MatthewG]

I believe all suffering (lost in darkness) eventually leads to a person going to God wouldn’t you think so, @marks?

I know my life was all hatred to God and Christians and my family. That I got to a point in listening to some people on YouTube share the Bible and it gave me the push to go find out who the Lord Jesus Christ was. Reading the Bible helped a lot and being taught and hearing the word helped a lot to my life slowly changed, just like yours.

Jesus is my hope now not my past my past doesn’t give me any hope. I can share it and relate to others and their experience sure but my hope is not found there but in the Gospel of Christ.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Praise God for the @devin553344. That is a miracle and thankfully he is okay now.

I’m also simply talking about people with disabilities, and malformed genetics.

So you are asking…Lord, why was this man born blind/deformed/sickly?

Some of those who followed Jesus asked that same exact question.

 

[marks]

I believe all suffering (lost in darkness) eventually leads to a person going to God wouldn’t you think so, @marks?

For some it just seems to drive them further into bitterness and they die that way, sometimes very horribly. Voltaire comes to mind, an avowed atheist, with only torment at the end.

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

So you are asking…Lord, why was this man born blind/deformed/sickly?

Some of those who followed Jesus asked that same exact question.

Hello stunned,
Will you share me scriptures pertaining to those questions?

The biggest difference between me and others is my view of how material religion is done away with now and today now we are healed spiritually which is ultimately a change of heart.

People need to go to doctors and the thing about that is, somethings work to help, but they will still possibly tear down because of the body. Since we are all of the same flesh of Adam and he had sinned, our ultimate fate is death.

Which many people like to try not to think about. There are people born blind, limp, have accidents where they only have half their body, some people lose leg from diabetes these are just realities. God places a soul into the people, and we as souls in our own body can share the only one who gives peace to the soul.

That is the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the only one in this life that can suffice to give comfort to the soul and to allow us to have spiritual connection with our Father in heaven having accepted the Death, Burial, and Resurrection.

Good question but I don’t think I’m asking that.

 

[MatthewG]

For some it just seems to drive them further into bitterness and they die that way, sometimes very horribly. Voltaire comes to mind, an avowed atheist, with only torment at the end.

Much love!

How sad. To me God is still calling out to that man from inside of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Hope that is what we have to give in the great news that their is a light that can help us see in this darkness! By the power of God through the Lord Jesus Christ my friend!

How awesome!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Hello stunned,
Will you share me scriptures pertaining to those questions?

The biggest difference between me and others is my view of how material religion is done away with now and today now we are healed spiritually which is ultimately a change of heart.

People need to go to doctors and the thing about that is, somethings work to help, but they will still possibly tear down because of the body. Since we are all of the same flesh of Adam and he had sinned, our ultimate fate is death.

Which many people like to try not to think about. There are people born blind, limp, have accidents where they only have half their body, some people lose leg from diabetes these are just realities. God places a soul into the people, and we as souls in our own body can share the only one who gives peace to the soul.

That is the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the only one in this life that can suffice to give comfort to the soul and to allow us to have spiritual connection with our Father in heaven having accepted the Death, Burial, and Resurrection.

Good question but I don’t think I’m asking that.

Its in the gospels somewhere. They asked Jesus, why was this man born blind? So it’s a question men have always asked - why does God allow that?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

It’s in John 9.