Are you a Christian confused about taking the vaccine? Part 1

[amadeus]

What does any of that what you just wrote have to do with anything?

If I choose your team will you clap your hands for joy? If I choose the other team you are able to see will you turn your thumb downward? Which way then is God's Way for each of us? His sheep, for themselves, know!

Are you at the point of just posting bible passages for the fun of it now?

For fun? Do you make fun of people who fail to answer in accord with your prescribed rules?

God has been first in my life for a very long. I do not play games like that.

 

[Enoch111]

Who’s facts?

Medical facts my friend. Based upon biological, immunological and physiological facts. Not political shenanigans. Do you know that recently all established meanings and definitions of medical facts have been deliberately changed to accommodate political shenanigans? Do some personal research from a wide range of sources.

 

[Pythagorean12]

Here is a conspiracy theory at its finest.

Good luck to you my friend

I will pray you have more faith in God and less faith in the right wing conspiracy theories.

PS. I am right wing conservative christian myself. And I do not buy into the nonsense. So don’t even try to call me a liberal. I do not buy their Antifa BLM conspiracies either All you all want to do is divide my nation..

As for you. You need to study more.. RNA does not do what you call claim it does. That was debunked along time ago.

It's mRNA. And your claim is false.
A novel mRNA modification may impact the human genetic code

You fell for the lies. If you did get the vaccine that's too bad.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Medical facts my friend. Based upon biological, immunological and physiological facts. Not political shenanigans. Do you know that recently all established meanings and definitions of medical facts have been deliberately changed to accommodate political shenanigans? Do some personal research from a wide range of sources.

If medical facts yuo claim were true, I would witness it

The fact I do not. Lends me to not believe your right wing conspiracy theories from right wing doctors.

I do not trust them any more than I do left wing doctors. Who tell us the vaccine is so safe everyone including kids should take it. That just as dangerous as your nonsense.

And yes, I am calling it nonsense. The church should hold themselves above this kind of fear tactics t get people to believe as them. We are supposed to be lights in the world. Not another form of darkness

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It's mRNA. And your claim is false.
A novel mRNA modification may impact the human genetic code

You fell for the lies. If you did get the vaccine that's too bad.

Whatever

Good luck

If I hear you die of covid. I will pray for your family

If you get covid, I will pray for you and your family

If you get covid and Live I will praise God

What I will nto do is buy into your right wing conspiracy theories and your spreading of fear and hate.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Keep your prayers to yourself.God does not hear the prayers if sinners.
You're an agent of the darkness when you ignore medical facts in order to promote an agenda of genocide.

When you die you'll answer to God for laboring to mislead Christians in such ways.
And you didn't believe that either. But you shall.

Well thank you. You just proved who is the true sinner here. You do not even know me and you judged me.

Forgive me if I do not see the love f God in you. From here forward I will consider the source.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Keep your prayers to yourself.God does not hear the prayers if sinners.
You're an agent of the darkness when you ignore medical facts in order to promote an agenda of genocide.

When you die you'll answer to God for laboring to mislead Christians in such ways.
And you didn't believe that either. But you shall.

I will say one thing, I love how the mods are open. And as we discussed a few days ago, allow people of different beliefs in here.

However this outright judging a persons salvation and judging I wish the mods would do something about. When stuff like this happens. This is not discussion, This is playing God.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

You gentlemen are backbiting each other back and forth, and getting nowhere fast. Why don't you both take a step back, take a few deep breaths, and remember that you are brothers in Christ? Nothing will get accomplished in this dialogue when you're constantly fighting each other. Peace.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You should look in the mirror. Everything you said is every act you're guilty of.

I never judged your salvation or called you evil or called you a man of the devil.

You did that my friend

I said I would pray for you no matter what happened to you.

So now you are on the record of falsly accusing also.

Keep it up my friend.. Its there for all to see

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Thats what this world has come to sadly

And if someone is going to attack me and falsely accuse of of being of satan and evil. Then that someone is not my brother.

 

[Timtofly]

"As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, nor covid19, nor any vaccine, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Paul points out this world is all about death and dying. Why even attempt to preserve one's self in this world either way? Our focus is on obeying God, not forming teams against each other's theological positions.

 

[Sabertooth]

Marketing 101...

Ya Got Trouble, The Music Man (1962)

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

The Bible is actually very clear about it:

"Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." - Gal. 5:19-21

No real Christian supports any vaccine or would even argue that human reasoning should ever replace the Bible as the primary guide for any situation, especially this one. People wouldn't have to take drugs at if they would just believe God is willing to heal them(one of His many names is"YHWH Rapha", or "the Eternal who heals"), but their total lack of faith and their refusal to do what He says prevents them from truly being healed or protected from disease.

This isn't me trying to shame people who got the jab because i'm all for people's ability to make the choice for themselves. However, when somebody tries to use God or Christ in attempt to whitewash anything the Bible condemns, it becomes a matter of someone committing blasphemy to justify what they already made up their mind to do. The Bible clearly labels the dependence on drugs as something that can disqualify somebody from being in God's Kingdom. Neither God or Christ would lead Christians into 2 separate directions.

I'm not sure if most people actually read the whole post as they missed the point. Only God knows the whole truth whatever that may be and God knows what's best for each of us.

It is also not a sin to take it as many Christians have prayed about it and felt peace with either choice who are we to question what choice the Holy Spirit led them too?

Just because someone feels like they were "led" to get jabbed or felt peaceful about their decision, it hardly means they made a good choice. Sinners are always ok with doing things the Bible condemns. That's why the Bible talks about people having a seared conscience. God didn't withhold the truth from us as to whether or not getting injected with drugs is sin or not. Gal. 5 says it is a sin because it demonstrates a total lack of faith in God's ability to heal. As Heb. 11 says, it is impossible to please God without living faith.

Really???? I don't think pharmaceuticals is what Revelations 18:23 refers to.

The sorcery Revelations 18:23 refers to is probably more like the magic of Pharoah's magicians.

The word "pharmakeia" that is usually translated as "sorcery" in some translations is much broader in definition than just practicing actual witchcraft like people assume. It also includes the distribution of drugs and the administering of drugs into someone's body. Where do you think we got the word "pharmacy" from?

makes ya wonder, If you get covid and die, is that suicide? Since you rejected the vaccine?

Just saying, it goes both ways

Dying from a disease you contracted by accident is not the same as intentionally risking your life to be protected from a glorified flu. The "fauxcine", as Enoch111 accurately called it, does more harm than Covid itself. And as i already shown in another thread, all of these concoctions are nothing more than placebos that were released with the intention to make people feel like they're being protected. People who got jabbed multiple times are still dying from Covid. The only people who have gained anything from these concoctions being released to the public are the politicians and Big Pharma.

If medical facts yuo claim were true, I would witness it

The fact I do not. Lends me to not believe your right wing conspiracy theories from right wing doctors.

I do not trust them any more than I do left wing doctors. Who tell us the vaccine is so safe everyone including kids should take it. That just as dangerous as your nonsense.

And yes, I am calling it nonsense. The church should hold themselves above this kind of fear tactics t get people to believe as them. We are supposed to be lights in the world. Not another form of darkness

There is massive hypocrisy in your argument here. You say Christians are supposed to be above using fear tactics, but here you are dismissing something you disagree with as "right wing conspiracy theories" from "right wing doctors", even though you can't prove this to be the case.

Enoch111 is spot on about everything concerning the Covid situation. All of the "experts" like Fauci and WHO helped China create and scaremonger people with this virus for the sole reason of amassing more power for the Democrat party, and every last one of them are at the very least guilty of treason and should be locked up. It was just before Trump's presidency became official that Fauci said a virus will be running rampant within a few years' time.

Judging from all of the evidence that has been made available to the public after the lid was blown off about his connection to the Wuhan lab, it's definitely not likely that Fauci possesses a superhuman ability to see the future. It's far from likely that it was coincidental either. Fauci helped China create and weaponize a virus that was to be used against other Americans. That is a fact.

 

[Cassandra]

"I'm just sittin' here watching the wheels go round and round..."

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Well a good friend of mine lost two family members in a month due to complications with covid. Is begging everyone on Facebook to get the vaccine

My cousin lost her niece to
Covid 19. She was against the vaccine but is now saying if you are high risk maybe you should get it
my wife’s coworker is in the ICU. Fighting for his life last she heard he had zero % blood oxygen and they were pumping 100% oxygen into him. For all I know he is dead now. If not he will Never be the same

on a lighter note a coworker of Mine had to take a day off work because his wife tested positive. She was forced to take a test from work because she was exposed by a family member. She had no symptoms. Only a few sniffles. My coworker had no symptoms and tested negative. They both had vaccines

The people who died above where in their 30s and 40s. One was 52. Another family member after she had covid developed blood clots. Luckily they were found before they did serious damage. She was unvaccinated. And in her early 30s. She had serious symptoms for about a week but never went to the hospital until 3 months later when she developed chest pains

Once again reality paints a totally different picture than what we see in all these news sites

 

[CadyandZoe]

Well a good friend of mine lost two family members in a month due to complications with covid.

Is begging everyone on Facebook to get the vaccine

My cousin lost her niece to
Covid 19. She was against the vaccine but is now saying if you are high risk maybe you should get it
my wife’s coworker is in the ICU. Fighting for his life last she heard he had zero % blood oxygen and they were pumping 100% oxygen into him. For all I know he is dead now. If not he will Never be the same

on a lighter note a coworker of Mine had to take a day off work because his wife tested positive. She was forced to take a test from work because she was exposed by a family member. She had no symptoms. Only a few sniffles. My coworker had no symptoms and tested negative. They both had vaccines

The people who died above where in their 30s and 40s. One was 52. Another family member after she had covid developed blood clots. Luckily they were found before they did serious damage. She was unvaccinated. And in her early 30s. She had serious symptoms for about a week but never went to the hospital until 3 months later when she developed chest pains

Once again reality paints a totally different picture than what we see in all these news sites

I keep seeing these same stories around the internet. Did these things really happen to you? I wonder.

I doubt you know anyone who actually died of Covid-19. The Covid Survival Rate is

0-19 years 99.997%
20-49 years 99.98%
50-69 years 99.5%
70+ years 94.6%

Those who die of Covid, typically die in the hospital because the hospital refuses to admit a "covid" patient until that person has been sick for more that a set time (I think 2-weeks) The prescribed CDC protocol, dictated by Fauci and the NIH, is Remdesivir, which is deadly. Remesivir starves the body of oxygen, which is why people die in ICU even while intubated. In other words, most actual Covid patients die of hospitalization.

At the same time, most of the patients called "covid" patients are actually infected with the flu, and because they already have a compromised immune system, and because they already have comorbidities such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic respiratory disease, hypertension, or cancer, have a higher risk of death. This explains why the survival rate among the elderly is higher. Before 2019, all of these deaths would have been reported as pneumonia deaths due to influenza virus. (Coincidentally, there were NO flu deaths reported in 2019)

So let me translate the numbers you gave into an easy to understand probability. The survivability rate for people in their thirty's and forties, is 99.98%. Or in other words, if a million 30-year old's got covid-19, 999,800 of them survived. The survival rate is much higher if a person is treated early with ivermectin or HCQ.

On the other hand, according to the inventor of the Pfizer vaccine, more children will die of the vaccine than the disease itself. The vaccine will end up killing more people than the disease itself.

 

[Marty fox]

I would like to make my intentions clear the point of this post isn’t about what COVID or the vaccine can do to you but about searching Gods will for your choice. Both COVID and the vaccine has harmed people who have underlying issues

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I keep seeing these same stories around the internet. Did these things really happen to you? I wonder.

I doubt you know anyone who actually died of Covid-19.

I will be sure to tell the families of those who died that a man who calls him a christian brother thinks they did
Not due

you should be ashamed of yourself

 

[Cassandra]

I will be sure to tell the families of those who died that a man who calls him a christian brother thinks they did
Not due

you should be ashamed of yourself

Isn't the attitude of those who are saying you are not truthful amazing? SMH. Never guess this is a Christian forum, would you?

 

[Rita]

Keep your prayers to yourself.God does not hear the prayers if sinners.
You're an agent of the darkness when you ignore medical facts in order to promote an agenda of genocide.

When you die you'll answer to God for laboring to mislead Christians in such ways.
And you didn't believe that either. But you shall.

Sorry I am late to reading this thread this week, but perhaps you want to consider the phrase ‘ God does not hear the prayers of sinners ‘……is that really a truth !?
Also what God will judge in all of our lives will be up to him and not for us to decide.
Rita