Don’t fool yourself into believing that one party or ideology represents Jesus more than another.

[DuckieLady]

@Truth7t7 I'm not sure if you don't feel uncomfortable or if I'm antsy because I had too much coffee, but I will tell you that I strongly believe it was rigged.

Which means no matter your vote, we can't fully depend on it, we have to fully depend on God.

Proverbs 16:33
"We may throw the dice, but the Lord determines how they fall."

Vote Jesus Christ first. Always. And if it doesn't turn out as we had hoped, we can trust that God will use it for His good.

 

[Truth7t7]

I am not arguing with you, but do you believe that the last elections were rigged? Not attacking. Just asking what your belief is.

Absolutely the 2020 was a fraud with Covid-19 used as a platform, and yes the majority of states have removed these flaws from future elections, mainly the swing states where much corruption was seen

It was a big smile watching Texas democrats fight the election laws being changed, as they flew to DC to avoid a quorum for a vote, end result was the laws passed, securing the future election process

Judicial Watch has sued and had voter registration rolls cleaned up around the nation, deceased, moved out of state, etc, California is one example with like 5 million on its rolls removed

Virginia's recent election is a projection of 2022, republicans currently are favored at 52/41% over democrats first time in 30 years, with moderate democrats leaving the party in droves

My trust isnt in the political system or process, however it was a blessing to watch republicans take Virginia recently, stopping critical race theory from being pushed upon innocent children in public schools

 

[Enoch111]

I am not arguing with you, but do you believe that the last elections were rigged? Not attacking.

While this was not addressed to me there is absolutely no doubt that the last elections were manipulated fraudulently so that Biden would come out on top, even though he sat in his basement. He publicly stated that he had the best election fraud organization in history, so he was certain he would win. Then when the Supreme Court refused to handle the lawsuit regarding election fraud brought to it by seventeen states, that sealed the deal for Biden. And finally traitor Mike Pence made sure that Biden would enter the White House by refusing to deal with the fraud.

The problem now is that the election machinery throughout the states is rigged and fraudulent, and that issue has not bee thoroughly addressed. Therefore 2022 and 2024 will see more fraudulent wins for the Democrats.

 

[Wrangler]

I’m a Danish Christian telling Christians in democratic countries not to worship their democracy or their political leaders.

No Christian I know worships political leaders. And America is a republic, not a democracy.

American politics. You really have no business telling Americans what their political priorities should be.

 

[DuckieLady]

Absolutely the 2020 was a fraud with Covid-19 used as a platform, and yes the majority of states have removed these flaws from future elections, mainly the swing states where much corruption was seen

Judicial Watch has sued and had voter registration rolls cleaned up around the nation, deceased, moved out of state, etc, California is one example with like 5 million on its rolls removed

Virginia's recent election is a projection of 2022, republicans currently are favored at 52/41% over democrats first time in 30 years, with moderate democrats leaving the party in droves

My trust isnt in the political system or process, however it was a blessing to watch republicans take Virginia recently, stopping critical race theory from being pushed upon innocent children in public schools

I apologize for my premature caffeinated response but I appreciate your answer and @Enoch111 , also. I believe we are in agreement and on the same page.

It's easy... Biden breaking Obama's record for votes is unrealistic. But it shows that our faith needs to be in Him alone.

I think that is part of the message for God's people. He wants us to cling to Him and stray from idols. I think we have an idolatry problem in more ways than one.

 

[Truth7t7]

While this was not addressed to me there is absolutely no doubt that the last elections were manipulated fraudulently so that Biden would come out on top, even though he sat in his basement. He publicly stated that he had the best election fraud organization in history, so he was certain he would win. Then when the Supreme Court refused to handle the lawsuit regarding election fraud brought to it by seventeen states, that sealed the deal for Biden. And finally traitor Mike Pence made sure that Biden would enter the White House by refusing to deal with the fraud.

The problem now is that the election machinery throughout the states is rigged and fraudulent, and that issue has not bee thoroughly addressed. Therefore 2022 and 2024 will see more fraudulent wins for the Democrats.

I disagree with your claims, election laws have and are being changed as we speak to secure elections in 2022 & 2024

yes the majority of states have removed these flaws from future elections, mainly the swing states where much corruption was seen

It was a big smile watching Texas democrats fight the election laws being changed, as they flew to DC to avoid a quorum for a vote, end result was the laws passed, securing the future election process

Judicial Watch has sued and had voter registration rolls cleaned up around the nation, deceased, moved out of state, etc, California is one example with like 5 million on its rolls removed

Virginia's recent election in a red wave is a projection of 2022, republicans currently are favored at 52/41% over democrats first time in 30 years, with moderate democrats leaving the party in droves

 

[Truth7t7]

I apologize for my premature caffeinated response but I appreciate your answer and @Enoch111 , also. I believe we are in agreement and on the same page.

It's easy... Biden breaking Obama's record for votes is unrealistic. But it shows that our faith needs to be in Him alone.

I think that is part of the message for God's people. He wants us to cling to Him and stray from idols. I think we have an idolatry problem in more ways than one.

The political system and process isnt my salvation or an idol, I vote for republican and yes much good has been seen in republican victories as mentioned below

Yes President Trump opposed killing the innocent unborn (Abortion) and he signed executive orders on this, also orders regarding religious freedom, and many more not mentioned

Yes republicans in Texas introduced the heart beat bill that is law, restricting abortion

Yes republicans in Mississippi have a case in the US Supreme court currently to end abortion,challenging Roe v Wade

Yes republicans in Virginia recently removed the evil democrats, stopping critical race theory being pushed upon innocent children in public classrooms

If Christian's sat at home and didnt participate in voting as many suggest, the things mentioned above wouldn't have taken place

Get Out And Vote Republican, Trump 2024 America First

 

[Enoch111]

I disagree with your claims, election laws have and are being changed as we speak to secure elections in 2022 & 2024

I am talking about a THOROUGH purging of the machinery, a total ban on mail-in ballots, a total ban on electronic manipulation and counting of votes, a total ban on illegals being allowed to vote, a total ban on voting without proper ID, ballot harvesting, etc. The whole systems needs a total overhaul, with the postal service also totally banned from handling ballots.

 

[farouk]

I apologize for my premature caffeinated response but I appreciate your answer and @Enoch111 , also. I believe we are in agreement and on the same page.

It's easy... Biden breaking Obama's record for votes is unrealistic. But it shows that our faith needs to be in Him alone.

I think that is part of the message for God's people. He wants us to cling to Him and stray from idols. I think we have an idolatry problem in more ways than one.

@FluffyYellowDuck My wife often drinks decaffeinated coffee....

 

[Truth7t7]

I am talking about a THOROUGH purging of the machinery, a total ban on mail-in ballots, a total ban on electronic manipulation and counting of votes, a total ban on illegals being allowed to vote, a total ban on voting without proper ID, ballot harvesting, etc. The whole systems needs a total overhaul, with the postal service also totally banned from handling ballots.

That what you mention is and has been overhauled in "Many" states

Texas is just one example, as the Democrats flew to DC in protest of the voting law changes, and the end result they had warrants for their arrest, they returned and laws are now changed

Judicial Watch has sued many key states, and voter registration rolls have been cleaned up, California being a major accomplishment in like 5 million removed, deceased, moved out of state, etc

It appears you are behind times, need to catch up

30+ states have made these voting changes since the 2020 election
Changes concern mail in ballot deadlines, ID requirements, and the early voting period.

Published on Thu, August 12, 2021

State legislators across the US are enacting bills to change their voting processes before the 2022 midterms. Some states have recently made headlines for their changes, such as Texas legislators departing their capitol to delay a vote and Major League Baseball withdrawing the All-Star game from Georgia. There is no one change being made here, and dozens of states are acting to change mail-in and absentee ballot parameters, to voter ID laws, and more.

 

[JohnPaul]

Republican might equal family and country , but it dont equate to GOD . Not even trump truly followed JESUS .
Your hope is in the wrong party my friend . And whatever you do , DONT VOTE LIBERAL .
Even trump supported things which no christain should . They all in it man . Just wait till you see what i mean .
These politicians aint gonna save us or this country or the world .

On this Earth Trump was Americas only hope. The Democrats are for everything vile and evil.

Edit: when I say on this Earth I mean the now until the second coming occurs, then Jesus will wipe out all the injustices and evil doers, until then unfortunately we have to rely on our government and the one now is Satan and his minions in control, all in league with Satan including the Rinos.

 

[Enoch111]

On this Earth Trump was Americas only hope.

Until he decided to throw in his lot with the evildoers and failed to do exactly what he was elected to do. It is Trump who put evil Fauci in charge of his task force, and it is Trump who gave billions of dollars to the Operation Warp Speed conspirators. It is also Trump who failed to address election fraud from day 1 (in 2016) even though Democrats (of all people) had already complained about it. So by the time 2020 rolled around, it was too late. Then again Trump stood by while the cities of America burned, and hundreds of statues were destroyed or demolished. Lawlessness was allowed to go unpunished, and now the rule of law does not even exist. The judge handling the Rittenhouse case is the exception. The Supreme Court was allowed to betray America and those justices were not impeached.

As to the wall at the southern border, it became a fence, and now it is not even a fence. That wall should have been built post-haste as a national security measure under strict military supervision so that it was completed within 12 months. If Biden could destroy America within three months, then Trump could have built that wall within 12 months. A solid concrete wall with proper electronic and drone capabilities, going at least fifty feet above and fifty feet below the surface (while destroying all those cartel tunnels). As the saying goes "Where there's a will, there's a way".

Now we have a 1.2 trillion dollar boondoggle designed to entrench the Democrats forever and helped along by the treasonous RINOs.

 

[Truth7t7]

Until he decided to throw in his lot with the evildoers and failed to do exactly what he was elected to do. It is Trump who put evil Fauci in charge of his task force, and it is Trump who gave billions of dollars to the Operation Warp Speed conspirators. It is also Trump who failed to address election fraud from day 1 (in 2016) even though Democrats (of all people) had already complained about it. So by the time 2020 rolled around, it was too late. Then again Trump stood by while the cities of America burned, and hundreds of statues were destroyed or demolished. Lawlessness was allowed to go unpunished, and now the rule of law does not even exist. The judge handling the Rittenhouse case is the exception. The Supreme Court was allowed to betray America and those justices were not impeached.

As to the wall at the southern border, it became a fence, and now it is not even a fence. That wall should have been built post-haste as a national security measure under strict military supervision so that it was completed within 12 months. If Biden could destroy America within three months, then Trump could have built that wall within 12 months. A solid concrete wall with proper electronic and drone capabilities, going at least fifty feet above and fifty feet below the surface (while destroying all those cartel tunnels). As the saying goes "Where there's a will, there's a way.

Now we have a 1.2 trillion dollar boondoggle designed to entrench the Democrats forever and helped along by the treasonous RINOs.

I cant fully disagree with your analysis, however in spite of it all, President Trump is still top of the list

You could add many more mistakes to the list, Jeff Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, General Milley, and many other Trump appointments

To think of the torture President Trump and his family endured daily for 4 years, Russia Hoax, Phony Impeachments, on and on democratic evil

President Donald J. Trump, American Patriot and Hero

 

[quietthinker]

The believers walk is aptly portrayed in John Bunyans 'Pilgrims Progress'. Anyone who hasn't read it needs to.
Along the walk there are descriptions of the side roads, the deceptions and the many trickeries exercised on those who partake of the journey.
Although this journey is singular there are other faithful journey men/women which are encountered from time to time.
God takes us from where we are and teaches us through circumstance and mistake.

I have found it no walk in the park sifting through the influences which cross my path. Some, through lack of experience and forgetfulness appear plausible, however, given time, learning where the priority is, prayer for direction and observation, the many disguises error takes becomes clear.

 

[teamventure]

Agreed, and I think this is precisely why I have had no take on the Rittenhouse trial. Like absolutely none. Neither side.

Wait, are you implying that neither side on the Rittenhouse case are right or wrong?

 

[teamventure]

Opinion: In many ways we should view political parties and ideology’s as a false idols not to worship.
Jesus surely wasn’t a conservative, his lifestyle looks more like communism but he doesn’t force anyone to be a part of it, so it isn’t communism. Just as one wouldn’t consider it communism to share with friends, family and loved ones.
I believe that all ideologies are flawed because they don’t center around the spirit of God. Non of them are based on love, but on creating a stable system - regardless of right and wrong. I’m from Denmark, my dad always told me how lucky I was to grow up in a rich Protestant Christian country with a healthcare system and very low crime rates. It was as if someone equated Denmark’s will with God’s will. I was told that we are better than most other countries because we are blessed by God, because of our good and true policy that match Christian values. Slave keepers probably told themselves the exact same thing.
In todays political sphere it seems as if parts of the Christian community has fallen into worship of manmade ideologies.
No matter who you vote for, you are giving mandate to someone who won’t do the will of God.

I believe that many Christians in especially western societies have been fooled to take the eye off the ball.
We should change the world with our love and kindness not with our votes and debating which idealogical direction to follow. Voting and focusing on politics easily becomes an excuse for not changing the world ourselves. We should focus on becoming Christlike, have the same indifference to government and politics as Jesus had.

If you have a different view, please let me know why/where I’m wrong.

A liberal Jew in Nazereth 2,000 years ago
And a liberal American today are two significantly different things.
Short answer: God wants you to vote conservative.

 

[teamventure]

The Republican Party is the new Nazi party. I think it is every Christian's responsibility to vote them out of power.

However, Evangelicals have opted to support and participate in the lies, division and even the violence of the Nazi party.

Go figure.

Are you even a professing Christian?
Not going to debate someone who isn't even a Christian.

 

[Truth7t7]

Are you even a professing Christian?
Not going to debate someone who isn't even a Christian.

The poster denys a future second coming of Jesus Christ, I wouldn't argue against your observation and claim

 

[TLHKAJ]

Elections have been rigged/predetermined for decades.... nothing new and Trump is no exception.

 

[teamventure]

The poster denys a future second coming of Jesus Christ, I wouldn't argue against your observation and claim

Ah. I gotcha. I've been observing this thread.
You have my support here Truth.