If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[amigo de christo]

As much as i love the people the longer this world continues the more i will be hated for my love .

 

[Davy]

YOU OVER THINKING . WHERE does what i said disagree with a FUTURE TIME WHEN THE ACTUAL KINGDOM OF HEAVEN ,
whereby lambs are already made partakers of by the SPIRIT disagree with A FUTURE ACTUAL ON EARTH COMING
I have always said , THIS KINGDOM is one day gonna descend on earth . For now its in the heavens
and in our hearts . This ol dung hole we know as the world aint gonna last forever . ONE DAY
All the old is gonna be burned up , Just as the old has already , OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY , burned out of the hearts of lambs .
WE hunger for what we have tasted in JESUS . A new world and new heavens . ITS COMING and the JW wont be part of said kingdom .
EVEN if they had a part right . ROME even has a part right , but neither clings to Christ . Date setters are DISQAULIFIED
from the kingdom . A hint , if you are following any leader who at any time set dates of the COMING of CHRIST
or agreed with said leaders , DISQUALIFED FROM THE KINGDOM ye have been .
That just disqualified a whole lot . TIME TO OPEN BIBLES and ps , dont trust in men who claim to know greek
and thus have a better understanding or better bible . START TRUSTIN IN JESUS and BIBLE
and not the bible of men who set dates and hollered we know the greek and thus can give you either a new bible
or better understanding of said bible .

You might want to read over your post #569 again, because the way I understand you there is a mocking of those whose hope is an earthly Kingdom, when you seem to suggest it's only a Heavenly one.

 

[amigo de christo]

You might want to read over your post #569 again, because the way I understand you there is a mocking of those whose hope is an earthly Kingdom, when you seem to suggest it's only a Heavenly one.

I speak of those who preach the KINGDOM NOW mentality . Like ROME and NAR .
We have well tasted of the KINGDOM which is to come . WHEN i say we i aint including nar and JW or any other who also followed leaders
WHO SET dates or AGREED with said leaders . DISQUALIFIED . that is all they are . I say this not to be mean
but out of love . STOP FOLLOWING MEN PEOPLE and open that bible and learn Christ and GOD for yourselves .
The protestant realm probably at most has a percent or two that still follow jesus , GOOD luck finding that in the CC .
Dont run to the the Mormons either , or to any man . OPEN BIBLE LEARN GOD , OPEN BIBLE LEARN JESUS
And the KJV is a good start . Enough with following men of this age . I wish i could point someone to a teacher of today ,
BUT I CANT . READ that last line and weep folks . And NO , i dont claim to KNOW ALL nor POINT TO ME
BUT I DO SAY , OPEN BIBLE , LEARN BIBLE , LEARN that JESUS , LEARN THAT DOCTRINE . AND no one
on this site can silence my voice . NONE . Deal with the truth and learn and embrace it . none can silence the truth .
MY voice they can silence the day i am dead . BUT THE TRUTH CAN NO MAN SILENCE . FLEE the doctrines of men
flee them before its too late .

 

[Davy]

I speak of those who preach the KINGDOM NOW mentality . Like ROME and NAR .
We have well tasted of the KINGDOM which is to come . WHEN i say we i aint including nar and JW or any other who also followed leaders
....

I'm not... on the doctrine of men that believe Christ's Kingdom is established here already on earth today (called Amillennialism). This present world is still given to the devil to rule over, and it shows.

Only His spiritual Kingdom through His Church is established on earth today, mostly (I'll leave something open about His Church that is established literally on earth that I won't talk about here.)

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Do we reign with CHRIST now by overcoming darkness with His Light?



“But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;” (I Peter 2:9)!


“Ye have not CHOSEN Me, but I have CHOSEN you, and (((ORDAINED))) you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain [John 15]

 

[amigo de christo]

Do we reign with CHRIST now by overcoming darkness with His Light?



“But ye are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light;” (I Peter 2:9)!


“Ye have not CHOSEN Me, but I have CHOSEN you, and (((ORDAINED))) you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain [John 15]

That is in our own lives and the lives of those who by grace we convert unto Christ , THROUGH THE GOSPLE .
As for the rest of the world satan rules over it . But not for much longer . ONE DAY JESUS REALLY IS GONNA COME
and those who refused him , WILL be eradicated BY HIM and not men , fROM the earth . THERE REALLY IS
a COMING KINGDOM that shall rule and reign over the earth . FOR NOW lambs are in it , but soon it will descend .
And no evil will remain . New heavens and a new earth . ITS REAL and ITS COMING . for now it has came in our hearts
by faith in CHRIST . BUT IT WILL COME UPON THE EARTH as well . AND all who rejected JESUS will wail on that day .
ONLY THE MEEK IN CHRIST will inherit the earth . the rest have a kingdom that will be shaken and removed as will be they .

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Why would GOD give people direct proof in a Millennium Reign after The Return if this entire reality is based on Faith for SALVATION?

 

[amigo de christo]

Why would GOD give people direct proof in a Millennium Reign after The Return if this entire reality is based on Faith for SALVATION?

Because as it is said in revelation . THOSE WHO BELIEVED WILL BE IN THAT KINGDOM .

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Because as it is said in revelation . THOSE WHO BELIEVED WILL BE IN THAT KINGDOM .

okay, so what is the deal with satan being loosed at the end of it?

 

[amigo de christo]

okay, so what is the deal with satan being loosed at the end of it?

We will find out when it happens . Notice that the FP and beast are never again released from the lake of fire .
ONLY satan is bound and that in the pit . IF one says we are in that thousand years now , then they have to say
that the FP and beast are no longer here on the earth , cause during it they are in a lake of fire .
Oh wait , but even then satan can no longer DECIEVE the nations . WHOSE BEEN DOING all the decieving since even the days of paul
till now . exactly . We cant have it both ways .

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We will find out when it happens . Notice that the FP and beast are never again released from the lake of fire .
ONLY satan is bound and that in the pit . IF one says we are in that thousand years now , then they have to say
that the FP and beast are no longer here on the earth , cause during it they are in a lake of fire .
Oh wait , but even then satan can no longer DECIEVE the nations . WHOSE BEEN DOING all the decieving since even the days of paul
till now . exactly . We cant have it both ways .

i think satan has been loosed, that is what the fake nation of Israel is about.

 

[amigo de christo]

i think satan has been loosed, that is what the fake nation of Israel is about.

Satan has not been bound . Just cause you have the part about the nation of israel as right , you need to understand the bigger picture .
But YES , i would warn all to have no hope in the nation of israel , of america or of this world . THEY ALL DUPED .
They are all going all inclusive , the jews just like many christains are sold out for a lie .
As we know the false religoins on this earth also are . You would be amazed at how bad the deceptoin is
and how far it has infected almost even the entire realm of christendom itself .
A hint
IF you sitting in ANY church that has began to be UNITY UNITY UNITY centered
whose sermons are focused on a false love , on bridge builders , or finding common ground
or who do the alpha course , or who focus on doing good works and building communities , GET THE HECK OUT OF THEM .
THEY are tanked and infected already .
IF they are heavy on the word love and yet not correction of errors and sin , GET THE HECK OUT they are already infected .
If they are learning seeker friendly , rick warren , his purpose driven life , GET OUT , GET OUT
if they are hollering how catholics and all faiths are brothers and sisters , GET OUT GET OUT
IF they are crticizing those who warn agaisnt false teachers and saying things like we cant do that , cause they might be able
to learn some good from them , GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
IF they are NOT FOLLOWING the ENTIRE PATTERN set by JESUS and by the apostels , GET OUT GET GET OUT
If they are not sounding like paul , james or JESUS or jude , or peter when it comes to sin
but rather they just talk all the time about how we all sin and that instead of judging or correcting thos in error
we should just hug them and love them , GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
IF they are talking about beating spears into plowshares and about peace , peace , unity , GET OUT < GET OUT
this all inclusive web has many strings to its web . IT comes from satan and it knows how to say some truths
yet uses those truths to cause us to sway from the original pattern .
WE must behold all things written and follow that pattern .

 

[pittsburghjoe]

it's sacrilege to take the Prophecy of 70 Weeks and hand The MESSIAH'S Covenant/Judgment/Fulfillment to the antichrist. Premills wouldn't have their view if they understood JESUS gave the Real Nation of Israel Final Judgment. what we have today is deception.

 

[Taken]

Ps dont hold your breath , dont even think this is manifest in this world . Dont heed nar
done heed the CC . This world is worse than ever , an end time sign that the coming of JESUS does indeed draw nigh .
JESUS SECOND COMING aint what more and more folks think it is . For they believe and think its when CHRIST comes to indwell us .
Rather odd that peter , james , paul and others who HAD THIS INDWELLING , STILL SPOKE and warned OF HIS COMING.
THIS COMING HAS NOT YET HAPPENED . NOT YET . IF it had
why on earth is the world still so full and worse than ever of evil . The truth is this , we have simply TASTED , just tasted of the world
that is to come . cause we tasted of RIGHTEOUSNESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS LIVING , BOTH of which this world knows not .
JESUS IS COMING . WE BETTER BELIEVE THIS , or prepare to wail as will many . I WAIT FOR , HOPE FOR and LONG FOR
the new heavens and the new earth , which though i have tasted of it , HAS NOT YET COME .

Sure. I wasn’t wondering. Just stating a fact. Not up to us.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If you don't have Obedience to our Reigning King today, you are a pharisee demanding a sign to get Right with GOD.

 

[amigo de christo]

Sure. I wasn’t wondering. Just stating a fact. Not up to us.

 

[Taken]

WOW...Thanks for sharing. First I heard of that.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

John 14:18-21
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Why don't Jews question the silence from GOD for 2000 years?

Not even a prophet in that time?

i wonder if they need Christians to remind them what could have caused it.

 

[Taken]

You might want to read over your post #569 again, because the way I understand you there is a mocking of those whose hope is an earthly Kingdom, when you seem to suggest it's only a Heavenly one.

It’s a delineation...
Favoring an Earthly kingdom ruled by an “Earthly” king.
^ what some men DO desire.
Or
Favoring an Earthly kingdom ruled by a “Heavenly” king.
^ what some men DO desire;
(as @amigo de christo, himself has revealed on numerous occasions he favors.)

It’s all about the “ruler”.
Men shall not all go up to heaven to be ruled IN Heaven.
Heaven’s “present barrier” shall be opened, and AS it IS IN Heaven, so shall it BE on Earth.