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You CAN have it your way, by running with that pack of "wolves in sheep clothing", aka the tares, who are often in Bible Colleges-Seminaries, becoming approved of men as Bible Scholars and Professors, Bishops, Reverends, Catholic Priests, the list goes on. The Tares love religion, and speak mostly of it, and not the words of God.
Dude. How many times do I have to show you those passage do you keep ignoring them, and try to say it is spiritual.

When you are ready to discuss this like a true believer who wants to discuss the word of God, let me know. But as long as you continue to attack, because that is really all you have. Then I am done playing games.

Good day sir.

I am done with this nonsense
 

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^ And so, here comes another clue for you:

John 2[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his [mortal] body.
My words above are NOT a clue??
Then you are clueless about Hanukkah and the abomination that maketh desolate, in the days of Antiochus E. and Judas Maccabeus.
That Temple building was destroyed, but then was restored.

In type and antitype what abominable act took place against Jesus and the Temple of His body??
Was it not destroyed by death, but then restored to NEW and Immortal life?
Indeed it was!
 

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Dude. How many times do I have to show you those passage do you keep ignoring them, and try to say it is spiritual.

When you are ready to discuss this like a true believer who wants to discuss the word of God, let me know. But as long as you continue to attack, because that is really all you have. Then I am done playing games.

Good day sir.6

I am done with this nonsense
You are far from done! As He said: "My kingdom is NOT OF this world".
I am more than willing to discuss God's words, but not through the religion(s) of the "tares".

It is spiritual.
All the world loves to hear ABOUT the historical Jesus, but few there be that desire to hear FROM the spiritual Jesus.
 

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Instead of attacking me and claiming I am a natural man. You need to look at all of what I have said. Because the same argument here you use against me can be used against you.

Look at the word. not what you have been taught
I am not attacking you! I am trying to help you to learn how to allow "the mind of Christ", that is within you, so that He can convey "His Thoughts and His ways" to you, but is being side lined and over run by the "tares" and their doctrines of men.
Our "natural man/mind", our flesh is always in the way.
 

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I once was, what I was taught by "church-ianity", but I TRASHED ALL of that. In these last 30 years, I now seek ONLY His voice through His words and His Spirit within, and within others, who also seek to know "HIS Mind and His ways".

Over in your "ball park", I have been looking for His Mind in you. I am still looking, ever so hopeful.
But you are waning, and now I find that you can't endure.
 

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His kingdom is NOT OF this world,......and NEVER will be!!!
One day soon, I sincerely do hope and pray that God blesses you, and not the tares to bless you!

Eventually, when you do seek Him with your WHOLE heart, you WILL HEAR Him.
Only then will you know that He has revealed Himself TO YOU!

Thanks for listening.
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Since we have been discussing the abomination that maketh desolate in Daniel, I thought I might include this prophetic and historic challenge for the readers, so that all may learn how the following prophecy was fulfilled by Judas Maccabeus.
Today, that event is celebrated by the Jews as Hanukkah.
Dan.12[11] And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety [1290] days.
[12] Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty [1335] days. When one does the math of 1335 minus 1290 the answer is 45 days.
Spiritually speaking, do you know what that time of "restoration" points to?
Ans. The "Blessing" of the Day of Pentecost.
Oh, you don't think so?
Then listen to Jesus:
Acts.1[4] And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
That prophecy was fulfilled, but from out of Daniel you WON'T hear that from popular "church-ianity".

Daniel 8[13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host [army of Israel] to be trodden under foot?
[14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred [2300] days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed [restored].
Please see 1 Maccabees 4:36-61.

Now, since the books of 1&2 Maccabees do have the actual Jewish dates recorded, one can actually do the math for an exact time line of "the abomination that maketh desolate", that was committed by Antiochus Epiphanes, and when Judas Maccabeus cleansed/restored the sanctuary.
For all that detail, one must now include the 1290 days and the 1335 days, as prophesied in Daniel 12:9-13, and do the math according to the books of Maccabees. Does that take work in studying it?
Yes, it does!!

I find it strange that present day "church-ianity" has no understanding or explanation for these prophetic and historic time lines, and therefore ignores and excludes them completely.
Why is it they never seem to discuss or study it?
The simple answer is it doesn't fit into their sloppy and BOGUS narrative!!

Did you know that the book of Daniel was for Israel, as the book of Revelation is for Christ's "Born Again Church"?
When the angel Gabriel spoke to Daniel about "the end", he was meaning the END of Israel, as being the preferential people of God, and not the end of time itself.

Do not swallow the slop that popular "church-ianty" is feeding you! Do your own study and research.

 

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Since we have been discussing the abomination that maketh desolate in Daniel, I thought I might include this prophetic and historic challenge for the readers, so that all may learn how the following prophecy was fulfilled by Judas Maccabeus.
Today, that event is celebrated by the Jews as Hanukkah.
Dan.12[11] And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety [1290] days.
[12] Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty [1335] days. When one does the math of 1335 minus 1290 the answer is 45 days.
Spiritually speaking, do you know what that time of "restoration" points to?
Ans. The "Blessing" of the Day of Pentecost.
Oh, you don't think so?
Then listen to Jesus:
Acts.1[4] And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
That prophecy was fulfilled, but from out of Daniel you WON'T hear that from popular "church-ianity".

Daniel 8[13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host [army of Israel] to be trodden under foot?
[14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred [2300] days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed [restored].
Please see 1 Maccabees 4:36-61.

Now, since the books of 1&2 Maccabees do have the actual Jewish dates recorded, one can actually do the math for an exact time line of "the abomination that maketh desolate", that was committed by Antiochus Epiphanes, and when Judas Maccabeus cleansed/restored the sanctuary.
For all that detail, one must now include the 1290 days and the 1335 days, as prophesied in Daniel 12:9-13, and do the math according to the books of Maccabees. Does that take work in studying it?
Yes, it does!!

I find it strange that present day "church-ianity" has no understanding or explanation for these prophetic and historic time lines, and therefore ignores and excludes them completely.
Why is it they never seem to discuss or study it?
The simple answer is it doesn't fit into their sloppy and BOGUS narrative!!

Did you know that the book of Daniel was for Israel, as the book of Revelation is for Christ's "Born Again Church"?
When the angel Gabriel spoke to Daniel about "the end", he was meaning the END of Israel, as being the preferential people of God, and not the end of time itself.

Do not swallow the slop that popular "church-ianty" is feeding you! Do your own study and research.



ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

JESUS said: Matthew 24:v.15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by DANIEL the prophet, stand in the holy place, ( whoso readeth, let him understand )

Speaking of the Abomination of Desolation, JESUS referred to the book of Daniel, not to the book of your dead Judas ...whose spirit speaks by you yourself.


You are taking satanic theories from the deepest of hells to confound my brothers in Christ, your sources are the Devil himself from whom you spread your tares. What prevails to interpret the book of Daniel is the own book of Daniel and biblical books of his contemporary , not apocriphal book and devilish literatures your deceiver spirit are using surreptitiously and sowing your spurious and satanic tares in this Christian site.

THE REAL INTERPRETATION OF THE WEEK 70TH - DANIEL 9:v.27 - THE LAST WEEK - ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

Judah is conquered by Babylon - Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon.
587 - 559 B.C. - The conquer of Judah's kingdom by Babylon lasted from 587 - 559 B.C.,

559 B.C. - Babylon is conquered by Cyrus - Cyrus's reigns lasted from 559-538 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is AUTHORIZED by Cyrus in his 1st year- 559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3.

522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C.
Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
- Ezra 6:v.15-CJB ou Jewish Torah - This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the SIXTH year of the reign of Daryavesh (Darius) the king. Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C. Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years IN THE YEAR 516 B.C, part was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius.

Again: Captivity of Israel = 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C.
End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15

7 weeks = 49 years-.---> 517 B.C. - 49 = 468 B.C.

62 weeks = 434 years..---> 468 B.C - 434 B.C = 34 B.C. Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks - 62 plus 7 weeks - of prophecy have fulfilled itself, i.e. from year 517 B.C. until year 34 B.C.. THIS IS REAL. THIS IS TRUER.

NOTE: Jesus was born around -4 B.C, so there was a gap of 30 years, from 34 B.C. until JESUS's birth in - 4B.C.
The last week of years-7 years- that is the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense until this present time and manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation that will occur in the midst of the week and until the consumation, until the END of the Devil's world to which you belong, according the speech of your spirit.

Get ready.


 
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ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

JESUS said: Matthew 24:v.15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by DANIEL the prophet, stand in the holy place, ( whoso readeth, let him understand )

Speaking of the Abomination of Desolation, JESUS referred to the book of Daniel, not to the book of your dead Judas ...whose spirit speaks by you yourself.


You are taking satanic theories from the deepest of hells to confound my brothers in Christ, your sources are the Devil himself from whom you spread your tares.
Just so that you know, the book of Daniel contained that vision. The books of Maccabees contain the Jewish record of the actual events, as it was manifested through the flesh of mere men, in their free will.
For example: by the prophetic words of Jesus (Matthew 24:1-2), concerning the destruction of Jerusalem and their temple, to what historical writing for the evidence of that manifestation, do Christians OFTEN refer to?
Ans. The writings of Flavius Josephus.
If then Josephus is regarded as a respected record, so also should be the books of Maccabees.
 
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THE REAL INTERPRETATION OF THE WEEK 70TH - DANIEL 9:v.27 - THE LAST WEEK - ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

Judah is conquered by Babylon - Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon.
587 - 559 B.C. - The conquer of Judah's kingdom by Babylon lasted from 587 - 559 B.C.,

559 B.C. - Babylon is conquered by Cyrus - Cyrus's reigns lasted from 559-538 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is AUTHORIZED by Cyrus in his 1st year- 559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3.

522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C.
Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
- Ezra 6:v.15-CJB ou Jewish Torah - This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the SIXTH year of the reign of Daryavesh (Darius) the king. Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C. Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years IN THE YEAR 516 B.C, part was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius.

Again: Captivity of Israel = 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C.
End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15

7 weeks = 49 years-.---> 517 B.C. - 49 = 468 B.C.


62 weeks = 434 years..---> 468 B.C - 434 B.C = 34 B.C. Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks - 62 plus 7 weeks - of prophecy have fulfilled itself, i.e. from year 517 B.C. until year 34 B.C.. THIS IS REAL. THIS IS TRUER
It has been revealed to me of a much more simple approach, in the understanding of and when the 70th week WAS fulfilled.
Dan. 9:24-27[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.[026] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Seven + threescore + two + one = Seventy weeks.
And there it is,...DONE!

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or should I say,..... "It is finished".
 
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My words above are NOT a clue??
Then you are clueless about Hanukkah and the abomination that maketh desolate, in the days of Antiochus E. and Judas Maccabeus.
That Temple building was destroyed, but then was restored.

Silly, since Jesus forewarned of the "abomination of desolation" event from the Book of Daniel almost 200 years AFTER... Antiochus Epiphanes had been dead. And no, the 2nd temple in Jerusalem was NEVER restored after it burned down during the Romans attempt to seize it in 70 A.D.
 

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Silly, since Jesus forewarned of the "abomination of desolation" event from the Book of Daniel almost 200 years AFTER... Antiochus Epiphanes had been dead. And no, the 2nd temple in Jerusalem was NEVER restored after it burned down during the Romans attempt to seize it in 70 A.D.
No, Jesus pointed back to "the abomination that maketh desolate". See 1 Maccabees 1:54.

He was only informing, that it was the Jews themselves, who were about to commit the "seventh abomination".
Can you find the seventh abomination in Proverbs 6:16-17?
 

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^ When Jesus was in the body of His mortal flesh, He was the Temple of the Living God.
John 2[18] Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?
[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his [mortal] body.
 

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It has been revealed to me of a much more simple approach, in the understanding of and when the 70th week WAS fulfilled.
Dan. 9:24-27[25] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.[026] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Seven + threescore + two + one = Seventy weeks.
And there it is,...DONE!

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or should I say,..... "It is finished".


ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

JESUS said: Matthew 24:v.15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by DANIEL the prophet, stand in the holy place, ( whoso readeth, let him understand )

Speaking of the Abomination of Desolation, JESUS referred to the book of Daniel, not to the book of your dead Judas Macabeus ...whose spirit speaks by you yourself.


You are taking satanic theories from the deepest of hells to confound my brothers in Christ, your sources are the Devil himself from whom you spread your tares. What prevails to interpret the book of Daniel is the own book of Daniel and biblical books of his contemporary , not apocriphal book and devilish literatures your deceiver spirit are using surreptitiously and sowing your spurious and satanic tares in this Christian site.

THE REAL INTERPRETATION OF THE WEEK 70TH - DANIEL 9:v.27 - THE LAST WEEK - ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

Judah is conquered by Babylon - Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon.
587 - 559 B.C. - The conquer of Judah's kingdom by Babylon lasted from 587 - 559 B.C.,

559 B.C. - Babylon is conquered by Cyrus - Cyrus's reigns lasted from 559-538 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is AUTHORIZED by Cyrus in his 1st year- 559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3.

522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C.
Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
- Ezra 6:v.15-CJB ou Jewish Torah - This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the SIXTH year of the reign of Daryavesh (Darius) the king. Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C. Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years IN THE YEAR 516 B.C, part was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius.

Again: Captivity of Israel = 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C.
End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15

7 weeks = 49 years-.---> 517 B.C. - 49 = 468 B.C.


62 weeks = 434 years..---> 468 B.C - 434 B.C = 34 B.C. Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks - 62 plus 7 weeks - of prophecy have fulfilled itself, i.e. from year 517 B.C. until year 34 B.C.. THIS IS REAL. THIS IS TRUER.

NOTE: Jesus was born around -4 B.C, so there was a gap of 30 years, from 34 B.C. until JESUS's birth in - 4B.C.
The last week of years-7 years- that is the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense until this present time and manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation that will occur in the midst of the week and until the consumation, until the END of the Devil's world to which you belong, according the speech of your spirit.

Get ready.
 

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Just so that you know, the book of Daniel contained that vision. The books of Maccabees contain the Jewish record of the actual events, as it was manifested through the flesh of mere men, in their free will.
For example: by the prophetic words of Jesus (Matthew 24:1-2), concerning the destruction of Jerusalem and their temple, to what historical writing for the evidence of that manifestation, do Christians OFTEN refer to?
Ans. The writings of Flavius Josephus.
If then Josephus is regarded as a respected record, so also should be the books of Maccabees.

The last Old Testament prophet was Malachi around 450 B.C. Therefore, for more than 300 years that GOD no longer spoke to his people, he left them to their own devices, practically abandoned and given over to demons. The rebuilt Temple of Jerusalem the demons took possession of and did what they wanted there. The banal sacrifices that the demons performed in the Temple have absolutely nothing to do with Daniel's prophecy. Israel was in the hands of the demons. GOD did not care about the uncircumcised nation of Israel, no more, the ordinary sacrifices made by the demons for demons as it happened in the desert (Deut.32:v.17) they had nothing to do with the Covenant that GOD had made with the fathers, so it has nothing to do with the vision God showed to Daniel, and he wrote .

The Temple was in the hands of the demons, it was no longer the Temple of God, and so it remained until the year 70 AD. By the way, JESUS did not say that the Temple was of the demons as I am talking here now, but the Temple was a DEN OF THIEVES, and so it remained until the year 70 A.D.

The Temple in Jerusalem was no longer worth anything, it was worth nothing, so satanic sacrifices made by were common, they were the stuff of the devil, and that YOU AND OTHERS have associated with Daniel's prophecies. This is BLASPHEMY, it's a lie, it's sin and serious.

Be careful, get ready.

ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

JESUS said: Matthew 24:v.15 - When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by DANIEL the prophet, stand in the holy place, ( whoso readeth, let him understand )

Speaking of the Abomination of Desolation, JESUS referred to the book of Daniel, not to the book of your dead Judas Macabees ...whose spirit speaks by you yourself.
You are taking satanic theories from the deepest of hells, it confounds my brothers in Christ, your sources are from the Devil from whom you spread devilish tares in the forums. What prevails to interpret the book of Daniel is the own book of Daniel and biblical books of his contemporary, not apocriphal book and devilish literatures a deceiver spirit uses and sows spurious and satanic tares in this Christian site.

THE REAL INTERPRETATION OF THE WEEK 70TH - DANIEL 9:v.27 - THE LAST WEEK - ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION

Judah is conquered by Babylon - Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon.
587 - 559 B.C. - The conquer of Judah's kingdom by Babylon lasted from 587 - 559 B.C.,

559 B.C. - Babylon is conquered by Cyrus - Cyrus's reigns lasted from 559-538 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is AUTHORIZED by Cyrus in his 1st year- 559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3.

522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C.
Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
- Ezra 6:v.15-CJB ou Jewish Torah - This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the SIXTH year of the reign of Daryavesh (Darius) the king. Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.

First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C. Temple reconstruction ended in around 516 B.C.
The rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years IN THE YEAR 516 B.C, part was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius.

Again: Captivity of Israel = 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C.
End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15

7 weeks = 49 years-.---> 517 B.C. - 49 = 468 B.C.


62 weeks = 434 years..---> 468 B.C - 434 B.C = 34 B.C. Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks - 62 plus 7 weeks - of prophecy have fulfilled itself, i.e. from year 517 B.C. until year 34 B.C.. THIS IS REAL. THIS IS TRUER.

NOTE: Jesus was born around -4 B.C, so there was a gap of 30 years, from 34 B.C. until JESUS's birth in - 4B.C. The last week of years-7 years- that is the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense, I would say in stand by, until this present time and manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation that will occur in the midst of the week and until the consumation, until the END of this Devil's world what is already running.

Get ready.
 

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NOTE: Jesus was born around -4 B.C, so there was a gap of 30 years, from 34 B.C. until JESUS's birth in - 4B.C. The last week of years-7 years- that is the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense until this present time and manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation that will occur in the midst of the week and until the consumation, until the END of the Devil's world to which you belong, according the speech of your spirit.
I contest your foul and futuristic view, that is foisted and artificially propped up by the "Tares" of "church-ianity".

AGAIN, the following is my PROOF and my argument:
Earburner said:
It has been revealed to me of a much more simple approach, in the understanding of and when the 70th week WAS fulfilled.
KJV Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined [verse 24] shall be poured [out] upon the desolate.
See KJV Acts 2:17-18 and 10:45.

Seven + threescore + two + one = Seventy weeks.
And there it is,...DONE!

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or should I say,..... "It is finished".
What WAS "determined" by God in verse 24 for detail??? Go see it in the KJV only.
 

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I contest your foul and futuristic view, that is foisted and artificially propped up by the "Tares" of "church-ianity".

AGAIN, the following is my PROOF and my argument:
Earburner said:
It has been revealed to me of a much more simple approach, in the understanding of and when the 70th week WAS fulfilled.
KJV Daniel 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.[26] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.[27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined [verse 24] shall be poured [out] upon the desolate.
See KJV Acts 2:17-18 and 10:45.

Seven + threescore + two + one = Seventy weeks.
And there it is,...DONE!

Edit:
or should I say,..... "It is finished".
What WAS "determined" by God in verse 24 for detail??? Go see it in the KJV only.

Your interpretation is good for nothing, it is a FALSE and satanic interpretation, it is like the vinegar of that one that ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave JESUS to drink.

Daniel 9:.26-27-CJB- WHAT PREVAILS IS THE WORD OF GOD. The Word is GOD.

V.26 - Then, AFTER (yeah AFTER) after the sixty-two weeks, MASHIACH will be cut off and have nothing.The people of A PRINCE (YEAH A PRINCE) yet to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but his end will come with a flood, and desolations are decreed until the war is over. (This has nothing to do with the destruction of Israel in the year 70AD, AS FOLLOWS WITH SOME QUESTIONS:

V.27 He (he WHOM? the PRINCE; who is he?) he will make a STRONG COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week [of years]. (THE WEEK 70th)
Do you see? This SATANIC PRINCE will RULE the last week, the week 70th, BY ENTIRE. And he will make a strong COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week[of years]. (This prince was/is not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely)

What kind of strong COVENANT the satanic PRINCE will make with leaders? Who are these leaders? By the way, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 will be divided in two periods of 3,5 years by the evil Prince.
In this POINT, that is, AFTER the END of the week 62, the prophecy is still to the beginning of the week 70th, and A PRINCE will start to work in his strong COVENANT with leaders;

Therefore, in this point the FIRST half of the week 70th isn't started yet, it is I would say in stand by until this current time, and the STRONG COVENANT of the satanic PRINCE with the LEADERS will take place or will be applied for ONE WEEK I believe in this current decade, there is a period of time AND EVENTS called as FIRST AND SECOND HALFS of the last week - the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27- that WILL be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE.

... he -the EVIL PRINCE- shall confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK he-THE EVIL PRINCE-shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Scripture does not say JESUS was crucified IN 29 AD, many people are saying that, not Scripture. What Scripture says is that AFTER, yeah, AFTER the week 62 plus 7 the Messiah is"cut off" - crucified .

JESUS was not crucified neither in the week 69, because the week 69 ended in 34 B.C., so JESUS was not crucified in the week 69th but AFTER the END of week 69, but also was not crucified in the midst of the week 70th, who says this is lying, it's a devilish lie, this week 70th is/will be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE by the entire. The evil Prince was not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely. THE evil Prince will manifest himself in this CURRENT decade, that is between 2020 to 2030, and the period of 7 years is within this current decade.

Be careful OR get ready, for the CHASTISEMENTS against the world of Devil is already running, and the PUNISHMENTS already started, and will NEVER END, it is for ever and ever. There is no place in the Kingdom of GOD to whosoever loveth and maketh the lie.

 

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Your interpretation is good for nothing, it is a FALSE and satanic interpretation, it is like the vinegar of that one that ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave JESUS to drink.

Daniel 9:.26-27-CJB- WHAT PREVAILS IS THE WORD OF GOD. The Word is GOD.

V.26 - Then, AFTER (yeah AFTER) after the sixty-two weeks, MASHIACH will be cut off and have nothing.The people of A PRINCE (YEAH A PRINCE) yet to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary, but his end will come with a flood, and desolations are decreed until the war is over. (This has nothing to do with the destruction of Israel in the year 70AD, AS FOLLOWS WITH SOME QUESTIONS:

V.27 He (he WHOM? the PRINCE; who is he?) he will make a STRONG COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week [of years]. (THE WEEK 70th)
Do you see? This SATANIC PRINCE will RULE the last week, the week 70th, BY ENTIRE. And he will make a strong COVENANT with LEADERS for ONE week[of years]. (This prince was/is not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely)

What kind of strong COVENANT the satanic PRINCE will make with leaders? Who are these leaders? By the way, the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 will be divided in two periods of 3,5 years by the evil Prince.
In this POINT, that is, AFTER the END of the week 62, the prophecy is still to the beginning of the week 70th, and A PRINCE will start to work in his strong COVENANT with leaders;

Therefore, in this point the FIRST half of the week 70th isn't started yet, it is I would say in stand by until this current time, and the STRONG COVENANT of the satanic PRINCE with the LEADERS will take place or will be applied for ONE WEEK I believe in this current decade, there is a period of time AND EVENTS called as FIRST AND SECOND HALFS of the last week - the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27- that WILL be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE.

... he -the EVIL PRINCE- shall confirm the COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK he-THE EVIL PRINCE-shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


Scripture does not say JESUS was crucified IN 29 AD, many people are saying that, not Scripture. What Scripture says is that AFTER, yeah, AFTER the week 62 plus 7 the Messiah is"cut off" - crucified .

JESUS was not crucified neither in the week 69, because the week 69 ended in 34 B.C., so JESUS was not crucified in the week 69th but AFTER the END of week 69, but also was not crucified in the midst of the week 70th, who says this is lying, it's a devilish lie, this week 70th is/will be RULED by the EVIL PRINCE by the entire. The evil Prince was not a contemporary of JESUS, absolutely. THE evil Prince will manifest himself in this CURRENT decade, that is between 2020 to 2030, and the period of 7 years is within this current decade.

Be careful OR get ready, for the CHASTISEMENTS against the world of Devil is already running, and the PUNISHMENTS already started, and will NEVER END, it is for ever and ever. There is no place in the Kingdom of GOD to whosoever loveth and maketh the lie.
At first, I thought you were only prophetically crippled, but now, with a closer look, I percieve that you are prophetically broken.
 

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At first, I thought you were only prophetically crippled, but now, with a closer look, I percieve that you are prophetically broken.

By the Word of GOD I tell you that what you say or write is insignificant, worthless, hollow words, no matters if you think even differently, being tormented. What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, understand?

What does the Word of GOD say? John 3:v.31 - He that cometh from above is above all, he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth. By the way, for good understand of all readers here, I remember that GOD cursed the Devil and determined his food, the Devil eats only of the dust of the earth. You appeared from the dust of the earth, you are simply dust, and you were already swallowed by the ancient Serpent, called the Devil and Satan, currently in this time of Apocalypse the Devil has a NEW NAME- Red Dragon, and he has 7 heads, 10 horns and a TAIL that is the part of the Red Dragon where you are now.

For good understand of all readers here, the Devil will be cast into the bottomless pit now, even in this current time. The Word is GOD, understand?
By the Word of GOD, the time is of the righteous Judgment of GOD, the Judgment Seat of Christ. What does the Word of GOD say?
Roman 2:v.5 to 9
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous Judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the Truth, but obey unrighteousness, INDIGNATION AND WRATH,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

Get ready - THE WORD IS GOD
 
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OK... So then, whose "word of God" should I trust?
Here is a comparison of your Bible quote, and that of the KJV, thus revealing a significant impact for meaning.

Color key:
Red: different meaning than the KJV.
Green: words similar but not the same as the KJV
Blue: words switched places from the KJV.

Quoted from your bible:
Dan. 9V.26 -
A. Then, AFTER (yeah AFTER) after the sixty-two weeks,
B. MASHIACH will be cut off

C. and have nothing.
D. The people of A PRINCE (YEAH A PRINCE) yet to come
E. will destroy the city and the sanctuary,

F. but his end
G. will come with a flood,

H. and desolations are decreed
I. until the war is over.


Quoted from the KJV:
Daniel 9[26]
A. And after threescore and two weeks
B. shall Messiah be cut off,

C. but not for himself:
D. and the people of the prince that shall come
E. shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;

F. and the end thereof
G. shall be with a flood,
H.
and unto the end of the war
I. desolations are determined.

My issues with your translation, in comparison to the KJV, are those in Red, being that of a different meaning, which leads and directs the context to a very different conclusion, that is far different than the KJV.

Yes indeed!!
I shall NOT stray away from the KJV.