since the bible is perfect

[farouk]

Sorry, how's that relate to my post you quoted?

In reference to why Protestants protested.

 

[stredaleve]

op: Since The BIBLE Is Perfect?
“But when That Which Is Perfect Is Come, then
that which is In Part SHALL BE DONE AWAY.”
(1 Corinthians 13:1-10)

but i really did not meant that the bible is perfect what i meant is God is perfect the will of God works in the writers of the bible and so the bible made perfect with God

well who can
can you prevent satan from dying in the end? it is the will of God that he must die eternally

even if the writers made mistakes if it is the will of God everything is mafe perfect and how can not that be the will of God the bible are his words

is it also not perfect that the apostles of jesus christ denied him multiple times that judas even betrayed him? it needs to happen it needs to come to pass

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

but i really did not meant that the bible is perfect what i meant is God is perfect the will of God works in the writers of the bible and so the bible made perfect with God

well who can
can you prevent satan from dying in the end? it is the will of God that he must die eternally

even if the writers made mistakes if it is the will of God everything is mafe perfect and how can not that be the will of God the bible are his words

is it also not perfect that the apostles of jesus christ denied him multiple times that judas even betrayed him? it needs to happen it needs to come to pass

so now you think the Bible isnt inerrant???

 

[stredaleve]

Of course IF "The Word of God Is NOT PERFECT," Then "God is
UNtrustworthy," in which case, "NO ONE can Really know!" Correct?

Of course, this is a moot point IF The BIBLE Is NOT Perfect, but then
how would anyone "know HOW To Be Saved," Correct?

YES!
@quietthinker

 

[stredaleve]

whew, thats terrible. Heres a link that will help you.
What Is the Doctrine of the Trinity?

Also, most people on here dont call out bad theology, but i do. Amadeus may be a nice fella, but he is absolutely wrong when it comes to the Trinity.

could you simplified it
but i think you already did
3 in 1
God the son
God the father
God the holy spirit
co-powerful
co-equal

but christ words says they are not co-equal not co-powerful
the one who was sent is greater than the one who sends
God the father is more powerful than all he did not say some but all

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

could you simplified it
but i think you already did
3 in 1
God the son
God the father
God the holy spirit
co-powerful
co-equal

but christ words says they are not co-equal not co-powerful
the one who was sent is greater than the one who sends
God the father is more powerful than all he did not say some but all

This may help sort it out.
How can there be subordination / hierarchy in the Trinity? | GotQuestions.org

 

[Stumpmaster]

Not many of us left and so,.....listen well.

Paul was humble.

 

[stredaleve]

so now you think the Bible isnt inerrant???

-_- don't you get what i mean
or is it you simply do not believe in what i said
thinking just to justify my claims i would change my ways to make it look fitted in the eyes of men is it

i've been trying to tell quietthinker but still cannot find the right words -_- yet you...

 

[stredaleve]

This may help sort it out.
How can there be subordination / hierarchy in the Trinity? | GotQuestions.org

any summary?
actually tbh i do not want to hear or read or simply reluctant to even think about reading about trinity which i "dislike" so could you make it in a shorter and simplified explanation

 

[1stCenturyLady]

but i still reject trinity hundred percent cause i found a concrete evidence that leads to killing the entirety of trinity theory it then sets me free

Who is God? The Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit?

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

any summary?
actually tbh i do not want to hear or read or simply reluctant to even think about reading about trinity which i "dislike" so could you make it in a shorter and simplified explanation

all three Persons of the Godhead are equal in nature. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit all have the same divine nature and divine attributes. Contrary to the teaching of many cults, there is no ontological subordination (no difference in the nature of the three Persons of the Godhead). This means that the Trinity is not comprised of greater and lesser gods; rather, there is one God existing eternally in three co-equal Persons.

Biblically, all three Persons of the Trinity have the same essence, nature, and glory, but each One has different roles or activities when it comes to how God relates to the world. For example, our salvation is based on the Father’s power and love (John 3:16; 10:29), the Son’s death and resurrection (1 John 2:2; Ephesians 2:6), and the Spirit’s regeneration and seal (Ephesians 4:30; Titus 3:5).

 

[stredaleve]

Does every who reads what is written therein immediately understand all that he may understand?

you are right
some YES
some NO
some NOT SURE
some YES but they thought they knew but were not

Does anyone grow after that? Some of them certainly, I believe, do.

it's like practice makes perfect

As the flesh ages, like mine [age 78], it seems to get weary with very little effort at all. But in the Spirit, must it be so?

Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Hebrews 2:14
Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil—

We could go on but primarily Jesus clarified the misunderstanding the Hebrews had of God making it clear that it is the devil who is responsible for death and disaster.

Job 1:12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
Job 2:6-7
And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.

Who is God? The Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

who was with God in the beginning?
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Colossians 1:16-18
For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Philippians 2:6-9
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

so is the holy spirit a God?
where in the word of God that the holy spirit is a God?

1 Corinthians 2:11-13
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

 

[stredaleve]

all three Persons of the Godhead are equal in nature. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit all have the same divine nature and divine attributes.

so why do you keep on insisting i do not know you already said that in a different way

no ontological subordination (no difference in the nature of the three Persons of the Godhead).

that is why i reject this teachings
because of the word of God the word of christ i already explain why right?

This means that the Trinity is not comprised of greater and lesser gods; rather, there is one God existing eternally in three co-equal Persons.

i also include the revelation in my mind/heart
jesus is also a God not in the form of God the father
but now i am at a loss
i cannot back it with the words of God

well you can convince me more i am open minded but if i feel like not reading it i will really not read not that i am lazy but because of conflicts

actually i did not came here to teach you i came here to be taught
to study but as you can see it would be hard to scam me i did not say you are i just explain i am open to all ideas except that i do not want to read like atheist comments

 

[amadeus]

Also, most people on here dont call out bad theology, but i do. Amadeus may be a nice fella, but he is absolutely wrong when it comes to the Trinity.

:):) I never claimed to have an AT on the subject. Would you call your certainty an AT [Absolute Truth] or a revelation from God?

What happened to this?

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

Are you one who has already arrived at the "face to face"? Not me!

 

[amadeus]

i would not say one is better than the other. ...

You have repeated some man's idea without even trying to explain away what Jesus said here:

"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." John 14:28

 

[amadeus]

seems like most of those are deliberate, and lead to a point maybe?

God knowing the point each time! Does He or must He always share it with us?

 

[bbyrd009]

God knowing the point each time! Does He or must He always share it with us?

im trying to think of one that doesnt have at least some suggestion of a solution, and i cant really. Used to have a list somewhere…

 

[amadeus]

so why do you keep on insisting i do not know you already said that in a different way

that is why i reject this teachings
because of the word of God the word of christ i already explain why right?

i also include the revelation in my mind/heart
jesus is also a God not in the form of God the father
but now i am at a loss
i cannot back it with the words of God

well you can convince me more i am open minded but if i feel like not reading it i will really not read not that i am lazy but because of conflicts

actually i did not came here to teach you i came here to be taught
to study but as you can see it would be hard to scam me i did not say you are i just explain i am open to all ideas except that i do not want to read like atheist comments

Consider in the following verse Pharoah and Joseph as types or shadows of the Father and Jesus:

Thou [Joseph as Jesus] shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I [Pharoah as God, the Father] be greater than thou." Gen 41:40

But even so, do not expect everyone to agree with you.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

:):) I never claimed to have an AT on the subject. Would you call your certainty an AT [Absolute Truth] or a revelation from God?

What happened to this?

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

Are you one who has already arrived at the "face to face"? Not me!

i would be happy if you were even in the ballpark of being right about the Trinity. You deny the Trinity, that is reallllly bad. Everyone has some bad theology, but the Trinity is not the place to be foing that.

 

[amadeus]

im trying to think of one that doesnt have at least some suggestion of a solution, and i cant really. Used to have a list somewhere…

I have a book about them I bought many years ago, but I have not looked at it lately. Yes, I am fairly sure there is a solution every time.