Ronald Nolette
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Well, whenever any sinner calls upon the name of the Lord for their salvation, they are praying to Jesus to save them. Plus He is at that throne of grace to pray to, for help in times of need when we are struggling with sin per Hebrews 4:12-16
Well I see in Scripture that God is a very loving and patient God. He will take people where they are at and teach them. I got saved as an agnostic/satanist. I went back to my Catholic roots when God got hold of me. I started reading the bible, but praying the rosary fiercely as well as doing all teh Catholic stuff. I wanted to get to know the God who loved me enough to save me. He took my faith, and taught me and led me away from the errors I knew to the truth I didn't know at the time.
I believe tongues is a legitimate gift for today! I also believe it is terribly understand and grossly abused. Besides going back to teh RCC I also found Catholic charismatic prayer groups. I know many people who babble in tongues do not have the gift, but I also know that if in their heart they are desiring to honor god_ He will lead them and pull them away from error into truth. If He would do that for me, I know He will do it for everyone who desires.
Well, whenever any sinner calls upon the name of the Lord for their salvation, they are praying to Jesus to save them. Plus He is at that throne of grace to pray to, for help in times of need when we are struggling with sin per Hebrews 4:12-16
Well when I pray with someone to receive Christ, I have them pray to the Father. I have taught many bible classes on the various aspects of prayer and have taught all my students- No praying to the Holy Spirit, No praying to Jesus, but definitely worship and adore Him, but pleas, petitions and intercessory prayer is directed to the Father alone.
I can only hope the Lord is using you to wean your church away from errors since God's gift of tongues are not for private use. 1 Corinthians 14:20-21 & 1 Corinthians 12:7 & 1 Corinthians 12:19-21 Those who have that kind of tongue usually are associated with having another drink of the One Spirit thus alluding to a second phenomenon that happens to a believer apart from salvation by how they got that kind of tongue.
They want to believe it is of God for why they do not care to test the spirits nor the tongues they bring.
Well I cannot speak for all teh varied doctrines out there. I deal with them as they come across my line of sight. My church does not accept tongues- the church is a Baptist church. But there is a prayer tongue Paul spoke of in Corinthians.
I also believe public utterances of tongues in the assembly while the preacher is preaching is not of God! Why would God interrupt the teaching of His Word with a commercial from the Spirit?
I think we need to be far more patient with believers who have been taught this way! God does not expect people to be perfect the moment they get saved and with all the crazy doctrines out there, lots of people hold lots of stuff because they were taught the Scriptures from an allegorical perspective! We must give them teh truth in love and leave the results to God! But if they are trusting in the death and resurrection of Jesus for their salvation, they are family and we must love them as such. they may be stunted in their growth and limited because of false teaching, but they are family.
it is the Word delivered in humilioty and love and directness that will deliver them and not ouor cajoling and accusations.