Jehovah is either God or He is not, correct?

[DavidB]

No sir, a simple answer to my question will suffice.
No, Jehovah is never written in the NT by name.

What Jesus quoted of course was not originally written in Greek however.

And you have the original Aramaic of Matthew to read Jehovah's name there?

Show any manuscript Scripture of the NT where Jehovah's name is written, whether it be an original or copy.

And Luke certainly wrote in Greek:

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

If you are saying that Matthew 'must have' originally written Yehovah in the Aramaic, for which there is no evidence, then you are not only basing an interpretative doctrine on nothing that exists, but you are also saying Matthew and Luke are not in agreement.

This is the 3rd time I make this point: If God had wanted His name of Yehovah to be written in Scripture of the NT, He would have done so, even as He did with other Hebrew words, and were translated for the Greek readers. He would have had both Matthew and Luke do so.

Why did He not?

This is also the 3rd time I ask the question: Who is the Lord God of the OT and the Lord of glory in the New?

If not the LORD Yehovah, then who?

Was the Tetragrammaton used in the Septuagint?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Nowhere on this point.

So, who is the Lord God of the OT and the Lord of glory of the New?

When the term Lord God is found in the Bible, it will always be referring to Jehovah. The term Lord of glory appears twice, both times being in the New testament, and each time it is referring to Jesus Rob.
But may I ask, what has that to do with the topic?

 

[robert derrick]

When the term Lord God is found in the Bible, it will always be referring to Jehovah. The term Lord of glory appears twice, both times being in the New testament, and each time it is referring to Jesus Rob.
But may I ask, what has that to do with the topic?

But may I ask, what has that to do with the topic?
The Lord God is the Lord of glory, who fulfills in the NT Scriptures all prophecies the LORD gave in prophecy of Himself to do on earth:

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

And since you agree the Lord is the LORD in the Old, then the Lord is the LORD in the New, who came into His temple in the days of His flesh, and will do so again in His return.

The point being that the LORD spoke in Scripture of many prophesies He would Personally do on earth, and the Lord Jesus is the one Scripture confirms having done and will do.

By His name Yehovah He prophesied of Himself, and by His name Jesus He fulfilled them Himself.

In Scripture your idol jehovah has never done anything the LORD Yehovah said He would Personally do, but Jesus has Personally done in Scripture many of those things and will do continue to do so, until all such prophecies he made of Himself as Yehovah will be fulfilled by Himself as Jesus.

 

[robert derrick]

I disagree sir, you are stating point blank that the inspired writer of Matthew would have altered the passage that Jesus quoted, or that Jesus himself would have stated it incorrectly. So where do we go from here Rob?

I delayed answering here, in order to have a yes/no question answered first. I have learned that combining yes/no questions with rebuttals never gets a yes/no answer.

You are stating point blank that the inspired writer of Matthew would have altered the passage that Jesus quoted

Yes. God did. God wrote His name Yehovah in the old, and His title Lord in the new, which of course is Jesus, since there is only one Lord in the new, even as there was only one LORD in the old.

Are you saying God couldn't do so? You forbid God to cease making Himself known as Yehovah, when He began to make Himself Known as Jesus?

In order to keep your idol jehovah intact, you are saying the LORD and Lord God is not allowed to change His name from Yehovah to Jesus, when He the LORD came down out of heaven to fulfill His prophecy of Himself on earth and was made flesh and called the Lord:

And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Do you have an manuscripts of Aramaic to prove the gospel quoted Jesus as saying Yehovah in the NT, as He did in the Old?

Luke was Greek, and he does not write the name Yehovah, and if Matthew said Yehovah, then that makes Yehovah to be the Lord of glory in the NT, or they are not in agreement with one another.

Are you saying that God could not have His apostles, such as Luke, write down His name Yehovah amidst the Greek any place in the NT? Which He never did. You do acknowledge that, right? Yehovah is never written by name in the NT? Why not?

Yehovah is nowhere mentioned in Scripture after He is called Jesus.

Your effort to force Him to do so, by demanding He must quote the OT Scripture exactly the same in the New, does not create the name of Yehovah in the NT.

Several places in NT Scripture is OT Scripture quoted differently, in order to be conformed to the new name of the Lord God and LORD Yehovah: Jesus.

Which of course remains the name for the Lord that is above every name ever known for the Lord God.

 

[Robert Gwin]

But may I ask, what has that to do with the topic?
The Lord God is the Lord of glory, who fulfills in the NT Scriptures all prophecies the LORD gave in prophecy of Himself to do on earth:

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

And since you agree the Lord is the LORD in the Old, then the Lord is the LORD in the New, who came into His temple in the days of His flesh, and will do so again in His return.

The point being that the LORD spoke in Scripture of many prophesies He would Personally do on earth, and the Lord Jesus is the one Scripture confirms having done and will do.

By His name Yehovah He prophesied of Himself, and by His name Jesus He fulfilled them Himself.

In Scripture your idol jehovah has never done anything the LORD Yehovah said He would Personally do, but Jesus has Personally done in Scripture many of those things and will do continue to do so, until all such prophecies he made of Himself as Yehovah will be fulfilled by Himself as Jesus.

No Rob, anywhere you see LORD (All caps) in the Bible the translators chose to change God's name to Adonai. Both Jesus, Jehovah, and many others share the title of Lord, it is simply a title, as is God. Jehovah is not Jesus of the old testament, He is Jesus' Father and God sir.

 

[Robert Gwin]

I delayed answering here, in order to have a yes/no question answered first. I have learned that combining yes/no questions with rebuttals never gets a yes/no answer.

You are stating point blank that the inspired writer of Matthew would have altered the passage that Jesus quoted

Yes. God did. God wrote His name Yehovah in the old, and His title Lord in the new, which of course is Jesus, since there is only one Lord in the new, even as there was only one LORD in the old.

Are you saying God couldn't do so? You forbid God to cease making Himself known as Yehovah, when He began to make Himself Known as Jesus?

In order to keep your idol jehovah intact, you are saying the LORD and Lord God is not allowed to change His name from Yehovah to Jesus, when He the LORD came down out of heaven to fulfill His prophecy of Himself on earth and was made flesh and called the Lord:

And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Do you have an manuscripts of Aramaic to prove the gospel quoted Jesus as saying Yehovah in the NT, as He did in the Old?

Luke was Greek, and he does not write the name Yehovah, and if Matthew said Yehovah, then that makes Yehovah to be the Lord of glory in the NT, or they are not in agreement with one another.

Are you saying that God could not have His apostles, such as Luke, write down His name Yehovah amidst the Greek any place in the NT? Which He never did. You do acknowledge that, right? Yehovah is never written by name in the NT? Why not?

Yehovah is nowhere mentioned in Scripture after He is called Jesus.

Your effort to force Him to do so, by demanding He must quote the OT Scripture exactly the same in the New, does not create the name of Yehovah in the NT.

Several places in NT Scripture is OT Scripture quoted differently, in order to be conformed to the new name of the Lord God and LORD Yehovah: Jesus.

Which of course remains the name for the Lord that is above every name ever known for the Lord God.

We disagree Robert, we believe Jehovah's name was included in the Greek Scriptures originally.

 

[DavidB]

We disagree Robert, we believe Jehovah's name was included in the Greek Scriptures originally.

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it but then in the middle 20th century fragments were discovered that proved it was originally used but was later removed by “Christians.” If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

 

[keithr]

We disagree Robert, we believe Jehovah's name was included in the Greek Scriptures originally.

God's name is still in the New Testament. In Revelation 19 the word hallelujah appears four times (verses 1, 3, 4 and 6). It's an untranslated Hebrew word, combining the Hebrew words halal, meaning praise, and Yah or Jah, which is a contracted, or abreviated, form of God's personal name. The same word is used many times in the Psalms, e.g. (from KJV):

Ps 106:1 ¶ Praise [halal] ye the LORD [Yah]. O give thanks unto the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah]; for [he is] good: for his mercy [endureth] for ever.
Ps 135:1 ¶ Praise [halal] ye the LORD [Yah]. Praise [halal] ye the name of the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah]; praise [halal] [him], O ye servants of the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah].

 

[robert derrick]

We disagree Robert, we believe Jehovah's name was included in the Greek Scriptures originally.

No Rob, anywhere you see LORD (All caps) in the Bible the translators chose to change God's name to Adonai. Both Jesus, Jehovah, and many others share the title of Lord, it is simply a title, as is God. Jehovah is not Jesus of the old testament, He is Jesus' Father and God sir.

I see Lord translated from Adonai, and LORD from Yehovah, and Lord from Kurios. The only name for Lord and LORD in the OT is Yehovah, and in the NT is Jesus.

Yehovah had His name changed to Jesus coming down from heaven to be made flesh on earth, and His Father and God are the Father and God of all that believe on His name and know Him.

You are ignorant of Him, because you don't believe on His name, neither do you honour Him even as the Father is honoured: As God.

And so you have neither the Father nor the Son, and know neither of them.

We disagree Robert, we believe Jehovah's name was included in the Greek Scriptures originally.

Ah yes, and so the great conspiracy against your jehovah continues. Your jehovah has been so mistreated by lying humans for so long.

Your jehovah was not able to have his name written by manuscript caretakers and copiers, to ensure they didn't corrupt the original test, and so his name has been entirely left out of any NT manuscripts and translations we have.

So, for your claim to be true: jehovah is not omnipotent and the NT is not all Scripture of truth.

And because of that, he is never given due credit for actually fulfilling his prophecies of himself personally on earth, but only his created proxy gets all credit for doing the hard work.

Even to the point where Jesus is called LORD of LORDS and KING of KINGS at His return to earth.

A great conspiracy indeed, so that his worshippers must depend entirely upon their own imagination to continue to idolize him.

 

[robert derrick]

God's name is still in the New Testament. In Revelation 19 the word hallelujah appears four times (verses 1, 3, 4 and 6). It's an untranslated Hebrew word, combining the Hebrew words halal, meaning praise, and Yah or Jah, which is a contracted, or abreviated, form of God's personal name. The same word is used many times in the Psalms, e.g. (from KJV):

Ps 106:1 ¶ Praise [halal] ye the LORD [Yah]. O give thanks unto the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah]; for [he is] good: for his mercy [endureth] for ever.
Ps 135:1 ¶ Praise [halal] ye the LORD [Yah]. Praise [halal] ye the name of the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah]; praise [halal] [him], O ye servants of the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah].

That's it? The best your jehovah can do is sneak a form of his name in as hallelujah in the NT, which in context is only a word of praise?

Yehovah had His name written in the OT plainly into the English 4 times, as well as LORD myriads of times that were directly from Yehovah, and your jehovah did not manage to have his name written plainly, nor directly from his name, into English and Greek in the NT not once.

Other than undercover of a word of praise.

You jehovah is a weak idol who could only sneak in a form of his name in the NT.

Meanwhile this created proxy of his, Jesus, gets all the glory and honour for doing all the actual hard work of fulfilling the prophecies about Yehovah Himself.

Your doctrine of jehovah is as weak as he is.

But, as with all idolatrous sects, I am sure you feel quite special about yourself.

While the rest of us schlubs that trust Almighty God to have His Scripture written and kept on earth, exactly as He gave it to His prophets and apostles, simply read what we have as written, and believe and obey it accordingly.

I thank God that when I read the NT for salvation of my soul, I don't have to be reminded that the one I most want to idolize is nowhere to be found, nor do I have to keep reminding myself he is actually in there somewhere hidden, by saying hallelujah to myself while reading.

The fact remains that the Lord God Almighty did not have His name written anywhere in the NT, and if He did, then He was not able to have it preserved in manuscript copies to translate into the Greek. In which case He is not the Lord God Almighty at all.

Your weak jehovah certainly is not the Lord God Almighty.

 

[robert derrick]

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it but then in the middle 20th century fragments were discovered that proved it was originally used but was later removed by “Christians.” If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name.

The NT does use the Divine Name: Jesus, which is the Divine Name above every name.

ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it.

Since the Septuagint is not Scripture of God in the Bible, then it matters nothing at all. Yehovah was used abundantly in the Hebrew, of which the Septuagint is an imperfect copy in Greek. Believers in the God of all Scripture only trust that which is Scripture of God.

If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

Because they were not liars? And the NT is all Scripture of truth?

This is the most convincing argument for rejecting the idolatry of jehovah: we must believe the manuscript copiers of the apostles were lying conspirators against the weak idol jehovah, who could not stop them from erasing his idolized name, so that the NT we have for thousands of years is spuriously and most despicably false by a direct assault on poor poor jehovah.

That's quite a god you people got there.

This jehovah idolatry goes deeper than ever: it's Da Vinci Code in real life.

I stick with my God Jesus, who was all powerful enough to be named as the name above every other name, and to have Himself as the fulfillment of all prophecies of old about the Lord God Almighty yehovah.

Mariologists declare oral outside traditions must be equal with NT Scripture, and jehovaites declare hidden manuscripts must be above all NT Scripture openly written.

 

[robert derrick]

We disagree Robert, we believe Jehovah's name was included in the Greek Scriptures originally.

jehovah bible:

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was a god.

Scripture of truth:

See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me.

Believing one must reject the other.

I choose Scripture of God.

There never was a god the word with God in the beginning, and there never will be: the only god the word is the idol god jehovah, and he is not with God at all.

 

[robert derrick]

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it but then in the middle 20th century fragments were discovered that proved it was originally used but was later removed by “Christians.” If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name.

The NT does use the Divine Name: Jesus, which is the Divine Name above every name.

Idolators of jehovah have strong opinions. Christians have the faith of Jesus.

ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it.

So? Big whoop. Who ever said the Septuagint is all Scripture? I understand the apostles may have quoted from it, where it was accurate fromt he Hebrew, but that doesn't make the Septuagint the Bible.

Yehovah was used abundantly in the Hebrew Scriptures, of which the Septuagint is an imperfect copy in Greek. Believers in the God of all Scripture only trust that which is Scripture of God: the Bible of Hebrew and Greek, which includes Yehovah in the Old,a nd not in the New.

If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

Why until the past century was there never an outcry against all these wicked Christians that blasphemously got rid of the great idol jehovah from the writings of the apostles?

Were there not any honest Christians who read the apostles' manuscripts and letters, and so would certainly have seen the great conspiracy against jehovah?

jehovah idolators are not Christians at all, and are false accusers against Christians as liars and blasphemers against their great idol jehovah.

This is the most convincing argument for rejecting the idolatry of jehovah and be Christians instead: we must believe the manuscript copiers of the apostles were lying conspirators against the weak idol jehovah, who could not stop them from erasing his idolized name forever, so that the NT we have for thousands of years is spuriously and most despicably false by a direct assault on poor poor jehovah.

That's quite a god you people got there.

And there were no honest Christians at all of the time to raise an outcry against these new devilish copies and translations, that shut out and leave in the dark cold of night the great jehovah, in order to favour Jesus as LORD of LORDS.

This jehovah idolatry goes deeper than ever: it's Da Vinci Code in real life.

I stick with my God Jesus, who was all powerful enough to be named as the name above every other name, and to have Himself as the fulfillment of all prophecies of old about the Lord God Almighty Yehovah.

Mariologists declare oral outside traditions must be equal with NT Scripture, and jehovaites declare hidden manuscripts must be above all NT Scripture openly written.

 

[DavidB]

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name.

The NT does use the Divine Name: Jesus, which is the Divine Name above every name.

ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it.

Since the Septuagint is not Scripture of God in the Bible, then it matters nothing at all. Yehovah was used abundantly in the Hebrew, of which the Septuagint is an imperfect copy in Greek. Believers in the God of all Scripture only trust that which is Scripture of God.

If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

Because they were not liars? And the NT is all Scripture of truth?

This is the most convincing argument for rejecting the idolatry of jehovah: we must believe the manuscript copiers of the apostles were lying conspirators against the weak idol jehovah, who could not stop them from erasing his idolized name, so that the NT we have for thousands of years is spuriously and most despicably false by a direct assault on poor poor jehovah.

That's quite a god you people got there.

This jehovah idolatry goes deeper than ever: it's Da Vinci Code in real life.

I stick with my God Jesus, who was all powerful enough to be named as the name above every other name, and to have Himself as the fulfillment of all prophecies of old about the Lord God Almighty yehovah.

Mariologists declare oral outside traditions must be equal with NT Scripture, and jehovaites declare hidden manuscripts must be above all NT Scripture openly written.

Facts are facts. The apostate church removed the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint and the NT. This made the distinction between the Father and the Son less clear paving the way for the trinity.

 

[robert derrick]

Facts are facts. The apostate church removed the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint and the NT. This made the distinction between the Father and the Son less clear paving the way for the trinity.

Facts are facts. The apostate church removed the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint and the NT.

I.e. you believe what you want. And you idolize a weak god you call jehovah. Your jehovah is nowhere in the NT, because your dumb idol is no god any more than than any fool's god of this world.

The only Lord Who made Himself known in the NT, and kept His name known in the NT today is Jesus Christ, and so it is Him only I worship from Scripture of the NT, not some loser called jehovah.

Scripture is Scripture, and the idolators of jehovah accuse the Christians that read the gospels and epistles of the apostles of corrupting the NT with other than Scripture, which would make the NT corrupt and not authentic for doctrine of Christ.

It is no surprise that idolators who wrest Scripture to their own liking, have no problem with declaring all of the NT is not Scripture.

Your idol is a wimp that couldn't even get his name written into the NT and kept there.

 

[robert derrick]

See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me. (Deut 32)

The jehovah idol is not the Lord God Yehovah of old, because the LORD never had a god with Him, as the jehovah idolators say He did.

They are liars against the LORD Yehovah first, and then against the LORD Jesus Christ.

 

[DavidB]

Facts are facts. The apostate church removed the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint and the NT.

I.e. you believe what you want. And you idolize a weak god you call jehovah. Your jehovah is nowhere in the NT, because your dumb idol is no god any more than than any fool's god of this world.

The only Lord Who made Himself known in the NT, and kept His name known in the NT today is Jesus Christ, and so it is Him only I worship from Scripture of the NT, not some loser called jehovah.

Scripture is Scripture, and the idolators of jehovah accuse the Christians that read the gospels and epistles of the apostles of corrupting the NT with other than Scripture, which would make the NT corrupt and not authentic for doctrine of Christ.

It is no surprise that idolators who wrest Scripture to their own liking, have no problem with declaring all of the NT is not Scripture.

Your idol is a wimp that couldn't even get his name written into the NT and kept there.

You seem so upset. 2 Timothy 2:4 may help you.

“For a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle toward all, qualified to teach, showing restraint when wronged.”

 

[Robert Gwin]

Those who express such strong opinions about the NT not using the Divine Name ignore the fact that for years it was claimed that the Septuagint didn’t use it but then in the middle 20th century fragments were discovered that proved it was originally used but was later removed by “Christians.” If the early church was able to remove the Tetragrammaton from the Septuagint why would we find it hard to believe they removed it from the NT.

Yes David, we are in exact agreement, that is exactly how it happened sir. I gather that Robert does not believe that way however.

God's name is still in the New Testament. In Revelation 19 the word hallelujah appears four times (verses 1, 3, 4 and 6). It's an untranslated Hebrew word, combining the Hebrew words halal, meaning praise, and Yah or Jah, which is a contracted, or abreviated, form of God's personal name. The same word is used many times in the Psalms, e.g. (from KJV):

Ps 106:1 ¶ Praise [halal] ye the LORD [Yah]. O give thanks unto the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah]; for [he is] good: for his mercy [endureth] for ever.
Ps 135:1 ¶ Praise [halal] ye the LORD [Yah]. Praise [halal] ye the name of the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah]; praise [halal] [him], O ye servants of the LORD [YHVH or Jehovah].

Yes sir you are quite correct! I don't think there is a version out there that does not contain that, very nice you brought that out Dave.

 

[keithr]

Yehovah had His name written in the OT plainly into the English 4 times, as well as LORD myriads of times that were directly from Yehovah, and your jehovah did not manage to have his name written plainly, nor directly from his name, into English and Greek in the NT not once.

God had His name plainly written nearly 7,000 times in the Old Testament Scriptures. It was the Israelites who first removed, or hid, virtually all of those occurrences, and our English translations mostly follow their tradition. But the Scriptures given by God don't hide His name.

You jehovah is a weak idol who could only sneak in a form of his name in the NT.

The Apostle Paul said that we will judge angels, but he didn't say that we should judge God!

I stick with my God Jesus, who was all powerful enough to be named as the name above every other name, and to have Himself as the fulfillment of all prophecies of old about the Lord God Almighty yehovah.

Revelation 1 (WEB):

(1) This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him ...

(5) and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us, and washed us from our sins by his blood;
(6) and he made us to be a Kingdom, priests to his God and Father; to him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.​

Jesus clearly reveals to John that Jesus has a Father who is also his God.

 

[robert derrick]

God had His name plainly written nearly 7,000 times in the Old Testament Scriptures. It was the Israelites who first removed, or hid, virtually all of those occurrences, and our English translations mostly follow their tradition. But the Scriptures given by God don't hide His name.


The Apostle Paul said that we will judge angels, but he didn't say that we should judge God!


Revelation 1 (WEB):

(1) This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him ...

(5) and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us, and washed us from our sins by his blood;
(6) and he made us to be a Kingdom, priests to his God and Father; to him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.​

Jesus clearly reveals to John that Jesus has a Father who is also his God.

God had His name plainly written nearly 7,000 times in the Old Testament Scriptures. It was the Israelites who first removed, or hid, virtually all of those occurrences, and our English translations mostly follow their tradition. But the Scriptures given by God don't hide His name.

Is your evasion of the argument on purpose, or is your blindness that strong? Do you think if you pretend like you are responding to the point, that others will not see you aren't? Why do you not see your idol jehovah anywhere in the NT? Is the best he could do was hide behind a word of praise Halleluiah? Is that all of your idol you have left to you after the OT??

Yehovah LORD is still found in all of the OT, but nowhere in the New. Where are these Scriptures of the NT with your idol jehovah?

Where is your idol jehovah in the NT? Why is he not found by name, nor even by title? Where is Yehovah and Adonis? They disappear after Malachi. Why is that? Where did they go? As the prophet asked your fellow idol-makers, perhaps he sleepeth and cannot be disturbed?

The Apostle Paul said that we will judge angels, but he didn't say that we should judge God!

You are as weak as your pathetic idol. Your jehovah couldn't keep the great conspirators from wiping his name off the face of the earth in the NT, and you say not to 'judge God'. God and Jesus are not judged by the writers of the NT, but your little jehovah has been judged an idol not even worthy of mention. Diana is even mentioned in NT Scripture, but no jehovah.

This is the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him ...and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us, and washed us from our sins by his blood;

And so you confirm Jesus Christ in the NT. Nothing of poor little idol jehovah.

I am surprised you people haven't written your own NT like the Mormons, in order to write your idol's name down thousands of time in it.

Jesus clearly reveals to John that Jesus has a Father who is also his God.

True. And so do that call upon His name out of a pure heart.

Not those who call upon a name nowhere found in the NT. Diana has more mention in the NT than jehovah.

Yehovah LORD, the Lord Adonis prophesied of Himself coming to earth to do a great work for His people, and He did so already once by the name of Jesus Christ, and He will do so again by the name of LORD of LORDS and KING of KINGS.

Your idol jehovah is just another false christ and god of the earth.

There never has been, and never shall be any word nor god with God. The only Word with God, is God the Word made flesh and now called by name Jesus Christ, whose name is above every name, including that of His former name Yehovah.