Where in the scripture is anyone called to be a Christian?

[Johann]

let's not stray from the OP The question is where does the scripture say God called us to be a Christian...

Are you STILL at it...there is a lost world in need of a Savior!

 

[Saint of God]

well, the followers of Jesus Christ were first called "Christians" there, yes

They were not called to be Christians by God, were they?

ok

well i dont recall saying anything about "good," just that the term was not new[/QUOTE]
On that note I don't recall the scripture saying that we are called to be Christians...You have a problem with me not quoting your exact words but you don't have a problem with people claiming to be something that they are not called to be in the scripture...

 

[Saint of God]

...some more


Rom_7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

This verse has nothing to do with the OP...

Rom_7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Another out-of-context verse...Why are you not dealing with the question?

Blessings

You just supported someone calling me a heretic because I asked a question you all are afraid to answer but you end your post with "blessing"...Bless me by answering the question.

 

[Johann]

This verse has nothing to do with the OP...
Another out-of-context verse...Why are you not dealing with the question?


You just supported someone calling me a heretic because I asked a question you all are afraid to answer but you end your post with "blessing"...Bless me by answering the question.

Blessings, I have already answered you
Have a joyful day in Christ
J.

 

[Saint of God]

Christ means Messiah
There is only one Messiah.
Jesus is the Messiah.

When God called His people after a new name, He called us after the Savior, Messiah, Jesus.




]Isaiah 62:2
The gentiles shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory.
You shall be called by a new name,
Which the mouth of the Lord will name.


Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.

This name is the name by which men are saved!

Is saint the name by which men are saved?
The Savior is who makes us saints.
But it is the Messiah that His people are named after!

That Messiah is Jesus, also called,

Advocate
Lamb of God
The ressurection and the Life
Shephard and Bishop of souls
Judge
Lord of Lords
Man of sorrows
Head of the church
Master
Faithful and true Witness
Rock
High priest
The Door
Living Water
Bread of Life
Rose of Sharon
Alpha and Omega
True Vine
Messiah
Teacher
Holy One
The Beloved
Branch
Carpenter
Good Shepard
Light of the World
Image of the invisible God
The Word
Chief cornerstone
Savior
Servant
Author and finisher of our faith
The Almighty
Everlasting Father
Shiloh
Lion of the tribe of Judah
I Am
King of Kings
Prince of peace
Bridegroom
Only begotten Son
Wonderful Counselor
Immanuel
Son of Man
Dayspring
The Amen
King of the Jews
Prophet
Redeemer
Anchor
Bright and morning star
The Way, the Truth and the Life,

The assertion is that Chrisrian was only used by those who were enemies of Christians, as catholic doctrine teaches.

Paul had no problem using the name Christ,

Romans 16:16
Greet one another with a holy kiss, the churches of Christ salute you.

Paul was proud of the name Christ,

Acts 26:28-29
Then Agrippa said to Paul, You almost persuade me to be a christian.
And Paul said, I would to God that not only you but also ALL who hear me today, might become both almost and altogether such as I am, except for these chains.

Paul desires Agrippa and All to become christians!
Peter was not ashamed to be called christian.

1Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this manner.

Christ is not a name it is a title, it is a translation of the word Messiah which means anointed one. You ate making strawman arguments instead of answering the question... The question is where did God call anyone to be a Christian in the scripture?...The simple answer is nowhere...Why are you guys afraid to say nowhere?

 

[Saint of God]

Blessings, I have already answered you
Have a joyful day in Christ
J.

You have not answered my question. How can I be joyful, when men who claim to be in Christ are making false claims about answering when they only respond but not answer the question...The answer to my question can only take one of two forms (1) a chapter and verse where God calls people to be Christians or (2) Nowhere in the scripture does God call people to be Christians.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

You have not answered my question. How can I be joyful, when men who claim to be in Christ are making false claims about answering when they only respond but not answer the question...The answer to my question can only take one of two forms (1) a chapter and verse where God calls people to be Christians or (2) Nowhere in the scripture does God call people to be Christians.

so let me get this straight. Since the word “Trinity” isnt in the Bible, the doctrine of the Trinity is false? Im trying to understand why you keep making laws where there are none.

 

[bbyrd009]

They were not called to be Christians by God, were they?

not that i am aware of

On that note I don't recall the scripture saying that we are called to be Christians...You have a problem with me not quoting your exact words but you don't have a problem with people claiming to be something that they are not called to be in the scripture

i dont have much of a problem with either tbh, but merely meant to point out that "Christian" likely meant something else then. Also, 1 Peter 4:16
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
def seems to imply that "Christian," whatever the definition, was something to at least not be ashamed of; although i would want a Witness for that...but i more or less agree with your premise, i think? "Christian," particularly self-proclaimed, is not the standard, near as i can tell

although that strikes me as basically irrelevant, if everyone else on the planet believes that it is the standard

 

[Titus]

Christ is not a name it is a title, it is a translation of the word Messiah which means anointed one. You ate making strawman arguments instead of answering the question... The question is where did God call anyone to be a Christian in the scripture?...The simple answer is nowhere...Why are you guys afraid to say nowhere?

What part of "they were first called christians in Antioch" Acts 11:26, don't you believe?

I'm curious to why this is an issue with you?

Gods word teaches Gods people will be named by a new name,

The gentiles shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory.
You shall be called by a new name,
Which the mouth of the Lord will name. Isaiah 62:2
This OT passage is Hebrew language.
Strongs Exhaustive Concordance will teach you the meaning of the Hebrew word name in this passage,
This word name in Hebrew is shem.

Strongs gives the meaning of shem,
Meaning: appellation
What is the definition of appellation?
Appellation meaning: a name, title or designation,

Christ is not a name it is a title,

There is the answer to your claim.
Wish I could agree with you on this subject.
But the scriptures do not support your view.

They were first called Christians(title) in Antioch.

 

[quietthinker]

Christ is not a name it is a title, it is a translation of the word Messiah which means anointed one. You ate making strawman arguments instead of answering the question... The question is where did God call anyone to be a Christian in the scripture?...The simple answer is nowhere...Why are you guys afraid to say nowhere?

Many presume to cavil with the scriptures unaware they are embarking on a dangerous exercise!

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Many presume to cavil with the scriptures unaware they are embarking on a dangerous exercise!

i couldnt agree more. Especially for those JW and other unitarians. Kinda scary.

 

[Saint of God]

so let me get this straight. Since the word “Trinity” isnt in the Bible, the doctrine of the Trinity is false?

Exactly, you finally figured it out...

Im trying to understand why you keep making laws where there are none.

I am trying to figure out why you keep defending a doctrine that is not in the scripture.

 

[Saint of God]

Many presume to cavil with the scriptures unaware they are embarking on a dangerous exercise!

Which you just did...You are very funny...

 

[Saint of God]

What part of "they were first called christians in Antioch" Acts 11:26, don't you believe?

Where did I say I don't believe the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch? You began your post with a false claim. The fact that they were first called Christians proves they were not Christians before Antioch...

I'm curious to why this is an issue with you?

I am curious as to why it is an issue to you that you should be afraid to show in the scripture where God said believers are to be called Christians.

Gods word teaches Gods people will be named by a new name,

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

The gentiles shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory.
You shall be called by a new name,
Which the mouth of the Lord will name. Isaiah 62:2
This OT passage is Hebrew language.
Strongs Exhaustive Concordance will teach you the meaning of the Hebrew word name in this passage,
This word name in Hebrew is shem.

Strongs gives the meaning of shem,
Meaning: appellation
What is the definition of appellation?
Appellation meaning: a name, title or designation,

Where does it say that name is Christian?

There is the answer to your claim.

You did not answer the question, sir. My question is not a claim it is an inquiry as to where something is written...

Wish I could agree with you on this subject.

No, you don't wish that, if you did you would have answered the question accurately and promptly.

But the scriptures do not support your view.

Which of my views does the scripture not support? Show the view that you are referring to.

They were first called Christians(title) in Antioch.

I never said otherwise, I am asking where did God call them to be Christians...Are you inferring that the people at Antioch are God?

 

[Saint of God]

not that i am aware of

Well neither am I, So that answers my question as to where did God call anyone to be a Christian. You are not aware that he did.

i dont have much of a problem with either tbh, but merely meant to point out that "Christian" likely meant something else then. Also, 1 Peter 4:16
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

That is not God calling anyone to be a Christian, is it?

def seems to imply that "Christian," whatever the definition, was something to at least not be ashamed of; although i would want a Witness for that...but i more or less agree with your premise, i think? "Christian," particularly self-proclaimed, is not the standard, near as i can tell

Which was not my question or a part of my question. That makes it a strawman response.

although that strikes me as basically irrelevant, if everyone else on the planet believes that it is the standard

Another strawman argument, the question has nothing to do with what people believe but more with where something is written or not written in the scripture.

 

[bbyrd009]

That is not God calling anyone to be a Christian, is it?

well, i can’t think of any Witness to that declaration,

Another strawman argument, the question has nothing to do with what people believe but more with where something is written or not written in the scripture

but you must admit that it is written in the Bible, nonetheless. However i would give a different weight to an unwitnessed declaration, sure. But im sure you might agree that Yah seeks followers of Christ, yes? And “Christian” is likely as good a place to start as any, imo, on the way to believing all things anyway

so, i think it might largely depend upon how one defines "Christian;" is it more like "zionist," which many do openly profess, or is more like "follower of Christ," which term was basically usurped by Jesus?

and this "straw man" rebuttal kinda ends up being just a way to refute something you dont understand, or dont want to admit, i think?

 

[Titus]

Where did I say I don't believe the disciples were first called Christians at Antioch? You began your post with a false claim. The fact that they were first called Christians proves they were not Christians before Antioch...


I am curious as to why it is an issue to you that you should be afraid to show in the scripture where God said believers are to be called Christians.

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Where does it say that name is Christian?


You did not answer the question, sir. My question is not a claim it is an inquiry as to where something is written...

No, you don't wish that, if you did you would have answered the question accurately and promptly.
Which of my views does the scripture not support? Show the view that you are referring to.

I never said otherwise, I am asking where did God call them to be Christians...Are you inferring that the people at Antioch are God?

Since you reject the name: appellation, title of Christian being what God has called ,named His people after Him.

You tell me the name by which all are saved by? The name that Gods people wear?
Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name(title) under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Exactly, you finally figured it out...

I am trying to figure out why you keep defending a doctrine that is not in the scripture.

and there it is. You HERETIC!!!

 

[Titus]

and there it is. You HERETIC!!!

Hello,
Hope you're doing well

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Hello,
Hope you're doing well

hello, just woke up. *looking like chris farley after an all nite party*