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thank you. I get a headache searching back through. Not because of what has been posted but from my eyes.
Who is the Queen of Heaven.
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thank you. I get a headache searching back through. Not because of what has been posted but from my eyes.
It's okay I knew they were near the start of the thread. There may be other references too somewhere.
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There is a lot of references to Asherah. interesting is the connection to a tree planted in the ground, especially with all the verses regarding tree. I’d never heard the name before. I have no idea why it is crossed through.
Asherah
Her Symbol:
In Assyrian asirtu, which appears also under the forms asratu, esreti (plural) and asru, had the further signification of "sanctuary." Originally Asirtu, the wife of Asir, and asirtu, "sanctuary," seem to have had no connection with one another, but the identity in the pronunciation of the two words caused them to be identified in signification, and as the tree-trunk or cone of stone which symbolized Asherah was regarded as a Beth-el or "house of the deity," wherein the goddess was immanent, the word Asirtu, Asherah, came to denote the symbol of the goddess. The trunk of the tree was often provided with branches, and assumed the form of the tree of life. It was as a trunk, however, that it was forbidden to be erected by the side of "the altar of Yahweh" (Deuteronomy 16:21; see Judges 6:25,28,30; 2 Kings 23:6). Accordingly the symbol made for Asherah by his mother was "cut down" by Asa (1 Kings 15:13). So, too, we hear of Asherim or symbols of the goddess being set up on the high places under the shade of a green tree (Jeremiah 17:2; see 2 Kings 17:10). Manasseh introduced one into the temple at Jerusalem (2 Kings 21:3,7).
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get it right pal!
Jesus Christ is Divine and the source of all grace not Mary!
but all graces come to us thru Mary!
God is on the great white throne with Christ at His right hand!
the throne of grace is Mary’s throne! Lk 1:28 full of grace!
Rev 4:1
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
that is not the throne of grace!
But God’s throne!
Jesus Christ is Divine and the source of all grace not Mary!
but all graces come to us thru Mary!
God is on the great white throne with Christ at His right hand!
the throne of grace is Mary’s throne! Lk 1:28 full of grace!
Rev 4:1
After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.
3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.
4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
that is not the throne of grace!
But God’s throne!
Jim B
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"Jesus Christ is Divine and the source of all grace not Mary!" Right!
"but all graces come to us thru Mary" Wrong!
These are self-contradictory. Still one out of two ain't bad.
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22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
The kingdom doesn't end, but His reign as King does! It is the Fathers kingdom according ot the Word, and Jesus reigns for 1000 years! After he defeats death, He gives the kingdom back to the Father as it says above in 1 Cor. 15.
No. Definitely not and never was. She was an ordinary girl/woman chosen by God for an extraordinary purpose. Which fulfilled. She is not and never was God's mother. She is not all powerful or divine. Sadly many people are deceived by leaders who teach them differently.
I agree with you that God never had a mother. I am not sure if theefaith thinks she is divine, because he prays…”holy Mary mother of God, pray for us sinners….”.
That’s a divinity thing.
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Asking Mary to "pray for us sinners..." is delusional. Why would anyone pray to a dead woman instead of to God?
Stan B
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Here is the infallible leader of this pagan religion worshipping their Satanic Queen!!
I used to as a Catholic.
They taught us to do that with extra Biblical literature, so we did it.
No wonder Martin Luther blew a fuse and announced "sola scriptura".
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Stan B
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I don’t know anything about your amusing mathematics theology when everything I need is contained in the Bible.
Your flawed theology says Mary is special because she is Jesus mother. Nonsense!
Mary was NOT Jesus’ mother. He existed long before Mary. She was merely the vehicle employed to produce His earthly tent, scheduled for destruction.
Mary did not create Jesus!
Jesus created Mary!
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There is a lot of references to Asherah. interesting is the connection to a tree planted in the ground, especially with all the verses regarding tree. I’d never heard the name before. I have no idea why it is crossed through.
Asherah
and pl. Asherim in Revised Version, instead of "grove" and "groves" of the Authorized Version. This was the name of a sensual Canaanitish goddess Astarte, the feminine of the Assyrian Ishtar. Its symbol was the stem of a tree deprived of its boughs, and rudely shaped into an image, and planted in the ground. Such religious symbols ("groves") are frequently alluded to in Scripture ( Exodus 34:13 ; Judges 6:25 ; 2 Kings 23:6 ; 1 Kings 16:33 , etc.). These images were also sometimes made of silver or of carved stone ( 2 Kings 21:7 ; "the graven image of Asherah,"
Her Symbol:
In Assyrian asirtu, which appears also under the forms asratu, esreti (plural) and asru, had the further signification of "sanctuary." Originally Asirtu, the wife of Asir, and asirtu, "sanctuary," seem to have had no connection with one another, but the identity in the pronunciation of the two words caused them to be identified in signification, and as the tree-trunk or cone of stone which symbolized Asherah was regarded as a Beth-el or "house of the deity," wherein the goddess was immanent, the word Asirtu, Asherah, came to denote the symbol of the goddess. The trunk of the tree was often provided with branches, and assumed the form of the tree of life. It was as a trunk, however, that it was forbidden to be erected by the side of "the altar of Yahweh" (Deuteronomy 16:21; see Judges 6:25,28,30; 2 Kings 23:6). Accordingly the symbol made for Asherah by his mother was "cut down" by Asa (1 Kings 15:13). So, too, we hear of Asherim or symbols of the goddess being set up on the high places under the shade of a green tree (Jeremiah 17:2; see 2 Kings 17:10). Manasseh introduced one into the temple at Jerusalem (2 Kings 21:3,7).
Oddly regarding Asherah
the threads mention of: Asherah the false goddess as the queen of heaven. (Do I understand that correctly). In all the above references there is a pole, the pole leads to Asherah and the bronze serpent on a pole. @bbyrd009 Nehushtan?
What Does 2 Kings 18:4 Mean? "He removed the high places, and brake the pillars, and cut down the Asherah: and he brake in pieces the brazen serpent that Moses had made; for unto those d."
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