Who is the Queen of Heaven.

[Jim B]

Jesus great act of love is a constant reminder of just what my failings inflicted on Him.. Of HIS great love for me and the world despite our failures.. Of HIS destroying my death.

Praise HIS holy name for ever and ever!

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

Then why do you write "Christ is risen"? Every Christian knows why Christ died, but depicting Him as dead is repulsive! If you have dead relatives, do you have photos of them in their coffins to remind you?

 

[Philip James]

Then why do you write "Christ is risen"? Every Christian knows why Christ died, but depicting Him as dead is repulsive! If you have dead relatives, do you have photos of them in their coffins to remind you?

Every Christian knows HE is risen!

Guess ill demonstrate with a good ol Canadian anecdote..

In 1972 Paul Henderson scored the winning goal to give team Canada the win over the soviets in an 8 game series.. The winning goal is diaplayed in pictures all over Canada..

Picturing the greatest victory in human history is of course far better..

What you see as repugnant, I see as Christ's glorious victory over death!

For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Pax et Bonum

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

 

[theefaith]

If I was a heart surgeon, would that automatically make my mother a heart surgeon?

no but she would be the mother of a heart surgeon, but not the source of his being a surgeon

I am an 80 year old man. Does that make my mother an 80 year old man?

no the mother of an 80 yr old man!

octogenarian? God bless you!

never said mother of the divinity!

But mother of God
Jesus Christ who is God!
Mary who is His mother!

Do we have your permission to say “mother of Jesus”???

 

[theefaith]

This pope guy. the infallible head of the church, whose word is equal in authority with the Bible, has just trampled all over God's authority by breaking the first of the 10 Commandments:

"You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in the heavens above, on the earth below, or in the waters beneath. You shall not bow down to them or worship them;"

He has created an idol, and then bows down and worships it!!

He is obviously not a servant of God, because he asserts his authority to write his own scripture. There would be just one other master he is serving, the god of pagans.

He only the visible head of the church as Christ invisible head appointed .

only infallible if as a valid pope he teaches the universal church on faith and morals and yes even equal with Christ! Lk 10:16 Jn 20:21

mary is not a god!
he is not worshiping!
It’s no idol!

love devotion honor veneration are not worship!

A wife owes these to her husband, is she guilty of making an idol of him and worshiping him?

worship requires intent!

 

[theefaith]

Why do you continually deny God's Word (Scripture)? Is that what Catholicism teaches you?

Jesus had brothers! That is what the Bible says, so if you disagree with Scripture, you disagree with God.

"While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him." Matthew 12:46

"Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers." Matthew 12:49

“Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas?" Matthew 13:55

"After this he went down to Capernaum with his mother and brothers and his disciples. There they stayed for a few days." John 2:12

"For even his own brothers did not believe in him." John 7:5

"However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also, not publicly, but in secret." John 7:10

So either you're lying or Matthew and John, who knew Jesus personally, are lying. I (and most other Christians) believe that God's word is truth. So if you write something different, you are lying, intentionally or not.

John 8:31b-32, "Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

hebrew culture any relative is called brother!

Abraham and lot for example

and scripture never says “brothers of Jesus”!
Only translations do and translations like context are not the inspired word of God!

 

[theefaith]

Since that is not in the Bible -- God's truth -- it is a lie.

Luke 1:28
Wycliffe Bible

28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
Lk 1:46 also
Lk 1:49 also

 

[theefaith]

NOTHING comes to us through Mary. Not a word about that in the Bible. This stuff through Mary is entirely pagan, i.e. Satan!

(Jesus came thru Mary)
He is the source of all grace

According to holy scripture the sum total of “her offspring” is the holy son of God!

She did not give birth to the Son of God. He had already been in existence since before the beginning of the world. i.e. in the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God." But then He gave up his Godhood, His Divinity: "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Lk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.



Having given up His divinity, became man, to dwell amongst us, He had no divine power. In the Garden before His crucifixion, He fell on His face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I will, but as You will.”

Following the resurrection, Jesus became the sole mediator between man and God. Mary is not even given a mention, because she was just a sinner like the rest of us. She had no divine characteristics. Her only task was to take away Jesus' divinity and reduce Him to a powerless mortal like her.

Only judge too?

Jesus Christ extends his mission, power, and authority to His church of His apostles!

Even His judging!
Matt 19:28
His teaching authority!
Matt 28:19 and Jn 20:21
His power to forgive sins!
Jn 20:23
His being the light of the world!
Matt 5:14
His ministry of reconciliation!
2 cor 5:18
His authority in governing the church and administering the kingdom!
Matt 16:18-19 & 18:18 Jn 21:17
Lk 22:29
Apart from me you can do nothing. Jn 15:5
So the church is subject to Christ!
Eph 5:24
Christ shares His glory! 2 thes 1:10 rev 12:1


Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Matt 18:17 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Only mediator of justice but not of grace!

anyone in the communion of saints can pray and intercede!

 

[theefaith]

How did you discover that?? It's not in the Bible! Did Mary whisper in your ear? Where does she keep all these treasures?

Luke 1:28
Wycliffe Bible

28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
Lk 1:46 also
Lk 1:49 also

 

[theefaith]

Also heb 4:16 the throne of grace

 

[theefaith]

Wrong again ! Jesus will be king and He is eternal God but He is not eternal King! that belongs to God the Father alone!

Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

What part of “no end” don’t you get?

 

[Philip James]

What part of “no end” don’t you get?

Im guessing this part:

"The Father and I are one"

Pax et Bonum

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

 

[Stan B]

hebrew culture any relative is called brother!

Abraham and lot for example

and scripture never says “brothers of Jesus”!
Only translations do and translations like context are not the inspired word of God!

The Bibles God has provided to me to communicate His message contain His complete message to me,

He has guided the hundreds of translators to tell me that Jesus had a number of brothers and sisters is all I need to know the truth. Mary was certainly no “ever virgin”. She was just a normal woman with a number of children raising a family.

 

[Stan B]

no the mother of an 80 yr old man!

octogenarian? God bless you!

never said mother of the divinity!

But mother of God
Jesus Christ who is God!
Mary who is His mother!

Do we have your permission to say “mother of Jesus”???

Yeah, she was mother of Jesus, who had divested Himself of all that which was God, and became exactly like one of us, subject to temptation and death.

 

[Truther]

Mary is a creature, so. Not divine.
Who said anything about her creating divinity?

Pax et Bonum

How is a creature queen of heaven?

 

[Truther]

Jesus is not a creature..

So we have Stan rejecting Jesus' humanity in denying Mary is His mother, and you here rejecting His divinity in denying He is uncreated..

Here's some info you both should have a look at:

Hypostatic union - Wikipedia

Pax et Bonum

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

Hypawhatic?

Who invented that?

You mean, like God took on a weak flesh nature melded into His perfect Spirit being-ish?

 

[Truther]

no but queen of grace and mercy
The treasurer of the Gifts of God!

Scripture please?

 

[theefaith]

The Bibles God has provided to me to communicate His message contain His complete message to me,

He has guided the hundreds of translators to tell me that Jesus had a number of brothers and sisters is all I need to know the truth. Mary was certainly no “ever virgin”. She was just a normal woman with a number of children raising a family.

translations are not inspired word or inerrant!

and the holy church is and is commanded to teach all men Matt 28:19 without error Jn 16:13

and it teaches!

Perpetual Virginity of Mary!

Mary conceived "without any detriment to her virginity, which remained inviolate even after his birth" (apostolic Council of the Lateran, 649) with the jurisdictional authority of Peter and the apostles in holy council!

Matt 16:18 18:18 Jn 20:21-23 eph 2:20 bound on earth bound in heaven!

 

[theefaith]

Yeah, she was mother of Jesus, who had divested Himself of all that which was God, and became exactly like one of us, subject to temptation and death.

so you agree Mary is the mother of our salvation! Great

 

[theefaith]

Scripture please?

Luke 1:28
Wycliffe Bible

28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.

 

[Jim B]

The Bibles God has provided to me to communicate His message contain His complete message to me,

He has guided the hundreds of translators to tell me that Jesus had a number of brothers and sisters is all I need to know the truth. Mary was certainly no “ever virgin”. She was just a normal woman with a number of children raising a family.

You will never convince "thee faith" or any other Catholics of the truth. He and they will ignore what Scripture clearly says in favor of the RCC propaganda and lies. Therein lies the problem!