People that fall for conspiracy theories are often the less educated

[Brakelite]

For the first time in its history, Western Civilization is in danger of being destroyed internally by a corrupt, criminal ruling cabal which is centered around the Rockefeller interests, which include elements from the Morgan, Brown, Rothschild, Du Pont, Harriman, Kuhn-Loeb, and other groupings as well. This junta took control of the political, financial, and cultural life of America in the first two decades of the twentieth century.

Carroll Quigley

 

[dev553344]

The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The highly uneducated Carroll Quigley.

That might be true. But I'm not educated in that area. So I don't want to speculate.

 

[dev553344]

I can't know about your intelligence level, nor your education, but this statement is literally one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen on the Forums.

There have been countless highly educated, and highly intelligent, people who have been whistleblowers and also those who made observations, and predictions of corruption, etc. throughout the world for possibly centuries, if not longer.

Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, David P. Weber, Chelsea Manning, Robert McCarthy, Adam Resnick ... the list literally goes on and on. This doesn't even cover the tip of the iceberg.

If you believe that the majority of the public at large have the most accurate information about all things going on in the world, you are woefully inept.

I'm sorry that there are folks out there who actually buy into THIS level of nonsense. I propose to you that THEY are the least educated (with a real education of Truth) and they certainly are the least intelligent by a considerable margin.

People who can't think for themselves, outside of the mainstream propaganda, have no ability to see Truth whatsoever.

Interesting argument. The study indicates that "most" have less education, but not all. I find your statement uneducated on the subject that I posted.

 

[dev553344]

True. Advanced education and philosophies of men can be obstructions to faith, Godly wisdom and even common sense.

See post #6. There are some terrible "theories" that are pushed on the population. But they're are in the end "theories" and not necessarily truth.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm working on a conspiracy theory right now.
I don't know if there is any truth in it yet, I'm just working on connecting dots.
It has to do with taking our country back and giving it to the people.
I believe the Government has done a massive land grab against the laws of the Constitution.
Bill Gates is being investigated by the State of N Dakota? For puchasing a lot of farmland.
The Governor and the Attorney general bringing this investigation worked with the Trump Admin.
I wrote it out in another thread...The coming Global Mandates.. thread in current events this morning.

This is what a conspiracy theory looks like. Until more evidence is revealed it will remain a theory until it's proven a fact.
I Love conspiracy theories because I always learn more than what I intended to find.
Today was about the Constitution and Federal Land rights:
Article I Legislative Branch

• 
  Section 8 Enumerated Powers
  • Clause 17 Enclave Clause
  • To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And
    
    • ArtI.S8.C17.1 The Capitol
      • ArtI.S8.C17.1.1 Seat of Government Clause Historical Background
      • ArtI.S8.C17.1.2 Seat of Government Doctrine and Practice
    • ArtI.S8.C17.2 Places Puerchased
      • ArtI.S8.C17.2.1 Places Purchased Clause Overview
      • ArtI.S8.C17.2.2 Federal Jurisdiction
      • ArtI.S8.C17.2.3 Reservation of Jurisdiction by States

Why is Bill Gates buying so much farmland?
Why are facing a food shortage?
What is his intention for this land?
That's what the state is going to find out.

I believe we will get our land back from a rogue Federal Government that has claimed public lands as their own.
This is MY conspiracy theory. I started it. I didn't get this idea from anywhere but my own thoughts.
Let's see where it goes?
Now someone else may come along and read my conspiracy theory and spread it somewhere else.
Then someone who has knowledge concerning Federal lands, the Constitution, and how much land can a trust lease or purchase in a State according to their laws.
And the digging begins.
If you get close to the target of the conspiracy theory, then people begin to come out of the woodwork calling it debunked, or fake news or whatever they call it to keep people from investigating further.
I'm going to keep digging and I'm going to keep watching if any debates or discussions come up about Federal Lands.
It may go nowhere, but then again...

Why is Bill Gates buying up so much farmland?
Why is the Attorney General starting an investigation on this purchase?
How much land is the Government allowed to own and for what cause?

I think these questions are important, when you consider how much of our country is being baught by other countries, or for reasons that are outside the Constitutional laws of the land.

This is what a conspiracy theory in it's infancy looks like.
Does that make me "uneducated" ? or lacking in education?
Maybe, but that's how I learn the truth and educate myself.


Hugs

 

[GEN2REV]

I find your statement uneducated on the subject that I posted.

Naturally.

The article that is the source of your position is a hoax and propaganda. It even goes into the vaccination argument.

The "study" is a joke.

Therefore, I find myself MORE educated on the topic than you OR the "experts" that wrote the article or conducted the fabricated "study".

Here is the first comment from the article page. Very telling.

Jack Tripper says:
November 28, 2017 at 5:25 pm

"One massive flaw in this article is the lack of information on said “strongly educated” IQ’s, or gathering data on their actual intelligence as opposed to simply getting an education in university as evidence. Almost anyone can attend universities, this has very little to do with their actual individual intellect. Who can’t name someone they went to college with who isn’t that bright? Would have been a stronger article had anything about actual measured intelligence. Not claiming to know one way or the other just seems extremely biased and filling in an article without the most important information on the people studied; Especially when it comes to studying the way people think, calling “conspiracy theorists” stupid and uneducated essentially. The personality and perspective of the writer is more telling than the actual “evidence”. It’s lacking."

Amen, I say.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

It's kind of like one of those cop shows where it's found that a criminal maybe didn't do something he's been accused of and the cop will say, well he's plenty guilty, just not of THIS crime.
But the suspicion fell on him BECAUSE of his past crimes.

 

[dev553344]

I'm working on a conspiracy theory right now.
I don't know if there is any truth in it yet, I'm just working on connecting dots.
It has to do with taking our country back and giving it to the people.
I believe the Government has done a massive land grab against the laws of the Constitution.
Bill Gates is being investigated by the State of N Dakota? For puchasing a lot of farmland.
The Governor and the Attorney general bringing this investigation worked with the Trump Admin.
I wrote it out in another thread...The coming Global Mandates.. thread in current events this morning.

This is what a conspiracy theory looks like. Until more evidence is revealed it will remain a theory until it's proven a fact.
I Love conspiracy theories because I always learn more than what I intended to find.
Today was about the Constitution and Federal Land rights:
Article I Legislative Branch

• 
  Section 8 Enumerated Powers
  • Clause 17 Enclave Clause
  • To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And
    • ArtI.S8.C17.1 The Capitol
      • ArtI.S8.C17.1.1 Seat of Government Clause Historical Background
      • ArtI.S8.C17.1.2 Seat of Government Doctrine and Practice
    • ArtI.S8.C17.2 Places Puerchased
      • ArtI.S8.C17.2.1 Places Purchased Clause Overview
      • ArtI.S8.C17.2.2 Federal Jurisdiction
      • ArtI.S8.C17.2.3 Reservation of Jurisdiction by States

Why is Bill Gates buying so much farmland?
Why are facing a food shortage?
What is his intention for this land?
That's what the state is going to find out.

I believe we will get our land back from a rogue Federal Government that has claimed public lands as their own.
This is MY conspiracy theory. I started it. I didn't get this idea from anywhere but my own thoughts.
Let's see where it goes?
Now someone else may come along and read my conspiracy theory and spread it somewhere else.
Then someone who has knowledge concerning Federal lands, the Constitution, and how much land can a trust lease or purchase in a State according to their laws.
And the digging begins.
If you get close to the target of the conspiracy theory, then people begin to come out of the woodwork calling it debunked, or fake news or whatever they call it to keep people from investigating further.
I'm going to keep digging and I'm going to keep watching if any debates or discussions come up about Federal Lands.
It may go nowhere, but then again...

Why is Bill Gates buying up so much farmland?
Why is the Attorney General starting an investigation on this purchase?
How much land is the Government allowed to own and for what cause?

I think these questions are important, when you consider how much of our country is being baught by other countries, or for reasons that are outside the Constitutional laws of the land.

This is what a conspiracy theory in it's infancy looks like.
Does that make me "uneducated" ? or lacking in education?
Maybe, but that's how I learn the truth and educate myself.


Hugs

Good for you Ziggy. Educating yourself on a topic is always nice to see. I don't really trust Bill Gates either. And I think that allows me to consider conspiracy ideas against that type of person. I have only a highschool education myself. And have studied physics for the past 6.5 years. So my education is higher than highschool. And I think that might describe people as they get older that they educate themselves above that education perhaps. Online can be a good tool for doing that as long as you steer clear of false information websites. There are some of those out there.

 

[dev553344]

Naturally.

The article that is the source of your position is a hoax and propaganda. It even goes into the vaccination argument.

The "study" is a joke.

Therefore, I find myself MORE educated on the topic than you OR the "experts" that wrote the article or conducted the fabricated "study".

Here is the first comment from the article page. Very telling.

Jack Tripper says:
November 28, 2017 at 5:25 pm

"One massive flaw in this article is the lack of information on said “strongly educated” IQ’s, or gathering data on their actual intelligence as opposed to simply getting an education in university as evidence. Almost anyone can attend universities, this has very little to do with their actual individual intellect. Who can’t name someone they went to college with who isn’t that bright? Would have been a stronger article had anything about actual measured intelligence. Not claiming to know one way or the other just seems extremely biased and filling in an article without the most important information on the people studied; Especially when it comes to studying the way people think, calling “conspiracy theorists” stupid and uneducated essentially. The personality and perspective of the writer is more telling than the actual “evidence”. It’s lacking."

Amen, I say.

I like your idea. But the comment indicates intelligence instead of education. And people can be very intelligent and yet lack the education to understand a topic correctly. This is why educating yourself on a topic is so crucial. Intelligence does play a role in educating yourself and overall comprehension so I will consider your argument as valid.

But I still want to discuss further.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Most conspiracy theories are only partial truth. And that is not valid then. And the fact that people that follow conspiracy theories have only arrived at a partial truth is not encouraging. Had they found the entire truth it might be.

Finding the whole truth is difficult when things are being hidden and lies are being told.

 

[GEN2REV]

This statement needs some more thought. A lot more. All of the media have that higher education. They have college degrees.

I have a good deal of higher education and I absolutely was pushed to accept the current ideologies of the day. I was able to push back with my mind and do my own thinking, but some just swallow it all. It's laziness of mind that does this.

The Bible also refers to a "love of Truth" that protects people from being fully brainwashed.

I believe it's that love for Truth existing in the mind and heart that doesn't fully allow somebody to be filled to the brim with all the lies. As long as I can remember, I have had a passion for Truth in every category. It led me to (as is the diabolically genius design) fall into the New Age movement for 14 years, but my sincere love for the Truth kept me from being fully swept away by it and God was able to reach me with His Word and finally turn me toward the only real source of Truth, the Bible.

All the years I was into New Age concepts, though, I was very aware of conspiracies going on everywhere in the world. Though I hadn't fully made my way to God's Word yet, my love for Truth allowed me to see that, I believe.

2 Thessalonians 2:10

 

[dev553344]

It's kind of like one of those cop shows where it's found that a criminal maybe didn't do something he's been accused of and the cop will say, well he's plenty guilty, just not of THIS crime.
But the suspicion fell on him BECAUSE of his past crimes.

Yes this reminds me of the military poisoning the population with radiation and the CIA mind control experiments. Many of which were conducted on the mentally ill. It is therefore not uncommon for mental health professionals to now see patients paranoid of these organizations and believing they are part of a conspiracy, when in fact they are not.

It is a case of background guilt.

 

[dev553344]

Finding the whole truth is difficult when things are being hidden and lies are being told.

Yes this is why I stay in a scientific approach. Not drawing conclusions until evidence has confirmed the suspicions. That is how fact finding works. Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Ziggy]

I don't know if anyone watched the J6 Hearing yesterday.
You want to talk about conspiracy theories....
when your entire testimony is built on heresay, to confirm a conspiracy..
that's a problem and would never hold up in a court of law.

And these are "educated" people pushing "theories" to confirm their conspiracy accusations.

OUR JOB is to seek the truth and hold it out in the light so everyone can see.
And which ever way the chips fall, then it is what it is.
But you can't have justice when there is only one side being told, or facts are based on heresay.
That's not how this works.

Hugs

 

[dev553344]

I don't know if anyone watched the J6 Hearing yesterday.
You want to talk about conspiracy theories....
when your entire testimony is built on heresay, to confirm a conspiracy..
that's a problem and would never hold up in a court of law.

And these are "educated" people pushing "theories" to confirm their conspiracy accusations.

OUR JOB is to seek the truth and hold it out in the light so everyone can see.
And which ever way the chips fall, then it is what it is.
But you can't have justice when there is only one side being told, or facts are based on heresay.
That's not how this works.

Hugs

Yes heresay can be a problem. There is also the case in courts of law where they consider eye witness testimonies as evidence. Which is a good case for biblical accounts for atheists to consider.

 

[Ziggy]

The Bible also refers to a "love of Truth" that protects people from being fully brainwashed.

I believe it's that love for Truth existing in the mind and heart that doesn't fully allow somebody to be filled to the brim with all the lies. As long as I can remember, I have had a passion for Truth in every category. It led me to (as is the diabolically genius design) fall into the New Age movement for 14 years, but my sincere love for the Truth kept me from being fully swept away by it and God was able to reach me with His Word and finally turn me toward the only real source of Truth, the Bible.

All the years I was into New Age concepts, though, I was very aware of conspiracies going on everywhere in the world. Though I hadn't fully made my way to God's Word yet, my love for Truth allowed me to see that, I believe.

2 Thessalonians 2:10

The book of Revelation put me on the path of conspiracy theories.
It made me look into history, geography, governments, human nature.
So many levels of how the world really works.

Hugs

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Yes this is why I stay in a scientific approach. Not drawing conclusions until evidence has confirmed the suspicions. That is how fact finding works. Innocent until proven guilty.

If either side of a matter has some partial truth...I'll leave the conclusion to you.

 

[dev553344]

If either side of a matter has some partial truth...I'll leave the conclusion to you.

I don't conclude on partial truth. This is why I'm not falling for most conspiracy theories.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I don't conclude on partial truth. This is why I'm not falling for most conspiracy theories.

You missed my point.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

How did the man in the OT arrive at the truth of which of the two women was the babys mother?
He arrived at it not through science but through understanding human nature and instincts.