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The LORD(YHWH) said to my Lord(Jesus) proves Jesus is not YHWH.
Even the Catholic encyclopedia says in most instances in the NT about the Holy spirit, it is not as a living being.
Here are the bible facts
The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name-Jesus-Holy spirit= 0
The Father sits on a throne, the son sits on a throne, Holy spirit= 0
The Father gets honor and glory, he shares both with the son, Holy spirit= 0
Passage after passage mentions God separate from Jesus-holy spirit-0- all 3 only mentioned in a single verse together.

Exactly....for a third and equal part of the trinity, the Holy Spirit is almost always missing when the Father and son are mentioned together.

Especially is this significant when Jesus, in prayer to his Father before his arrest, said....
“Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.” (John 17:1-5 - ESV)

If the son is God in the flesh, then why does he need the Father to glorify him?
Why does he need the Father to give him authority over all flesh? (Matthew 28:18)
And why do we not need to “know” the Holy Spirit in order to gain eternal life....?

Can the trinity answer these questions? I never got any.
 
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The bible never claims that. Jesus isnt called almighty in a single instance. Only YHWH is.
Exactly....for a third and equal part of the trinity, the Holy Spirit is almost always missing when the Father and son are mentioned together.

Especially is this significant when Jesus, in prayer to his Father before his arrest, said....
“Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.” (John 17:1-5 - ESV)

If the son is God in the flesh, then why does he need the Father to glorify him?
Why does he need the Father to give him authority over all flesh? (Matthew 28:18)
And why do we not need to “know” the Holy Spirit in order to gain eternal life....?

Can the trinity answer these questions? I never got any.


They have no answers. Because a man that represents himself as a man of God with his white collar, they believe him automatically without checking to see what is actually true. Over and over the bible proves those religions are in error. Yet their bibles are filled with translating errors and those are the words they believe above all the rest that contradict those errors.
Another point is--God is king of Eternity, Jesus had to be appointed(Daniel7:13-15) as king for 1000 years, then he must hand it back to his God and Father and subject himself( 1Cor 15:24-28) -- So since Jesus isnt king of eternity, clearly shows he is not God and they believe error over truth. Probably because a man told them they were saved, even though he has never seen a single name written in Gods book of life and they believe him. They want the easy way.
 
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The LORD(YHWH) said to my Lord(Jesus) proves Jesus is not YHWH.
Even the Catholic encyclopedia says in most instances in the NT about the Holy spirit, it is not as a living being.
Here are the bible facts
The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) the son has a name-Jesus-Holy spirit= 0
The Father sits on a throne, the son sits on a throne, Holy spirit= 0
The Father gets honor and glory, he shares both with the son, Holy spirit= 0
Passage after passage mentions God separate from Jesus-holy spirit-0- all 3 only mentioned in a single verse together.

in Psalm 110:5, "The Lord at thy right hand Doth crush kings in the day of His wrath", is the same "Lord", at the right hand of Yahweh in verse 1. There are about 20 Hebrew manuscripts that are Jewish and nothing to do with the Christian Church, that read in verse 5, "Yahweh", instead of "’ă·ḏō·nāy". Clearly shows that this has been corrupted by the Jewish Massoretes, who copied the Scriptures between the 6th and 10th century AD. Dr Adam Clarke in his commentary says, that even in verse 1, he knew of 1 Hebrew manuscript, that read, "Yahweh says to Yahweh", which agrees with the "Yahweh" in verse 5

The Holy Spirit cannot be seen by the human eye, which is why at the Baptism of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus Christ, being visible to us, as a "dove". The Holy Spirit was not the dove, or even in the dove, but the Symbol of the Spirit, as being "visible"
 

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The bible never claims that. Jesus isnt called almighty in a single instance. Only YHWH is. The one Jesus calls his God and Father-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--as does Paul-Coll 1:3, Eph 1:13,17, 2Cor 1:3--and Peter teaches the Father is Jesus' God-1Pet 1:3-- Try believing Jesus and the bible writers. Everyone of them served the Abrahamic God-a single being God named YHWH(Jehovah) 100% truth. To this day the Israelite religion serve that single being God.

try to disprove the article on Revelation 1:8. passing remarks does not answer anything what I have shown
 

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in Psalm 110:5, "The Lord at thy right hand Doth crush kings in the day of His wrath", is the same "Lord", at the right hand of Yahweh in verse 1. There are about 20 Hebrew manuscripts that are Jewish and nothing to do with the Christian Church, that read in verse 5, "Yahweh", instead of "’ă·ḏō·nāy". Clearly shows that this has been corrupted by the Jewish Massoretes, who copied the Scriptures between the 6th and 10th century AD. Dr Adam Clarke in his commentary says, that even in verse 1, he knew of 1 Hebrew manuscript, that read, "Yahweh says to Yahweh", which agrees with the "Yahweh" in verse 5

The Holy Spirit cannot be seen by the human eye, which is why at the Baptism of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus Christ, being visible to us, as a "dove". The Holy Spirit was not the dove, or even in the dove, but the Symbol of the Spirit, as being "visible"


Yes, as Gods appointed king, Jesus will crush every mortal govt off of Gods earth-Daniel 2:44) Because at Rev 16 clearly shows-that EVERY kingdom( govt,armies,supporters)will be mislead by 3 inspired expressions from satans side to stand in opposition to Gods king. Rev 19 is the results. For patriotism-99% will fall. Because they support those enemies of Gods, now and then.
If YHWH said to YHWH --God would be insane. Its that man who is insane, not God--Reality--YHWH said to my Lord( Jesus)--Your God is insane--At Rev 1:1 then he says--Here me have a revelation, and he sent himself to earth so he could pray to himself.) = 0 sense.
 

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Yes, as Gods appointed king, Jesus will crush every mortal govt off of Gods earth-Daniel 2:44) Because at Rev 16 clearly shows-that EVERY kingdom( govt,armies,supporters)will be mislead by 3 inspired expressions from satans side to stand in opposition to Gods king. Rev 19 is the results. For patriotism-99% will fall. Because they support those enemies of Gods, now and then.
If YHWH said to YHWH --God would be insane. Its that man who is insane, not God--Reality--YHWH said to my Lord( Jesus)--Your God is insane--At Rev 1:1 then he says--Here me have a revelation, and he sent himself to earth so he could pray to himself.) = 0 sense.

more rubbish!
 

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Rev 1:8 is speaking about Jehovah. Not Jesus.

In Revelation 5:13-14, we have Jesus Christ and the Father, given EQUALLY, "THE Blessing and THE Honor and THE Glory and THE Might forever and ever!”. THE MIGHT is the SAME as ALMIGHTY. All of these are EQUAL to Jesus as to the Father, and BOTH are WORSHIPPED in verse 14. Now show how can a created being have the SAME, as the Father?
 

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You mean God with a capital G, Jesus is the son of God, not God himself, only the one in the highest that created the Heavens and the Earth has that title.
Incorrect, Jesus is God.


Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]
Joh 1:2 Bereshis (in the Beginning) this Dvar Hashem was with Hashem [Prov 8:30].
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Jesus=D'var Hashem/Hashem/Elohim.

J.
 

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So-called Replacement Theology is just another name for identity theft. Take
for example the Watchtower Society's interpretation of Rev 7:1-8 wherein is
listed a specific number of Hebrews taken from every tribe of the sons of
Israel.

The Society claims that those aren't biological sons of Israel; but rather
"spiritual" sons-- referring of course to the Society's elite cadre of 144,000
Witnesses who have supposedly undergone a spirit birth per Christ's
instructions at John 3:3-12; and the anointing per 1John 2:26-27.

The Society's claim is premised upon its observation that there never was a
tribe of Joseph; when in reality Joseph is listed as both a son and a tribe
(Gen 49:2-28 and Ezek 48:31-34). So that portion of the Society's reasoning
is clearly a false premise.

The Society's claim is also premised upon its observation that Ephraim and
Dan are missing from the list of tribes at Rev 7:4-8. However, what the
Society's theologians have somehow overlooked in the Old Testament is that
it doesn't matter whose names are chosen to represent the twelve tribes of
Israel just so long as there are twelve names. Are there twelve in Rev 7:4
8? Yes. Well then that's good enough. I realize that makes no sense but then
the Lord's apostles were still referred to as "the twelve" even with Judas out
of the picture. So that premise in the Society's reasoning is spurious too.

The Society's claim is also premised upon its reasoning that Levi isn't a valid
tribe based upon the fact that the Levites are exempt from warfare.
However, Levi is clearly listed as both a son and a tribe (Gen 49:2-28) plus
Ezek 48:31-34, which is a good many years after Num 1:1-54. So that
premise is bogus too.

The Watchtower Society not wanting the 144,000 to be biological Hebrews is
one thing; but I would just like to know from whence Charles T. Russell's
and Joseph F. Rutherford's followers got the idea that their people constitute
the 144,000. That's a pretty serious claim. How do they validate it? I don't
know; but I can just about guarantee that their explanation is an outlandish
stretch of the imagination consisting of humanistic reasoning, rationalizing,
spiritualizing, clever sophistry, and semantic double-speak.


NOTE: According to Rev 14:1-4, the 144,000 are supposed to all be males,
and none have ever slept with a woman. That, if true, would of course
disqualify married JWs.
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In Revelation 5:13-14, we have Jesus Christ and the Father, given EQUALLY, "THE Blessing and THE Honor and THE Glory and THE Might forever and ever!”. THE MIGHT is the SAME as ALMIGHTY. All of these are EQUAL to Jesus as to the Father, and BOTH are WORSHIPPED in verse 14. Now show how can a created being have the SAME, as the Father?


Your teachers twist what actually is said. The might is not the same as almighty. Only in trinity translation was Jesus given worship--It is actually obesiance to Jesus. The bible writers all learned from the Israelite religion who were Gods chosen, they had the true God=The Abrahamic God, always was a single being God. They knew 100% the Messiah has a God like we do-Psalm 45:7--thus would not bow in worship to him, they bowed in obesiance to Gods appointed king. The same Greek word for worship has 4 other meanings-obesiance to a king is one of them. Catholicism mistranslated that word for Jesus to fit their false council teaching( 381 ce) of God being a trinity. No trinity was ever served before 381 ce by a true follower. Nor after by a true follower.
 
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Incorrect, Jesus is God.


Bereshis (in the Beginning) was the Dvar Hashem [YESHAYAH 55:11; BERESHIS 1:1], and the Dvar Hashem was agav (along with) Hashem [MISHLE 8:30; 30:4], and the Dvar Hashem was nothing less, by nature, than Elohim! [Psa 56:11(10); Yn 17:5; Rev. 19:13]
Joh 1:2 Bereshis (in the Beginning) this Dvar Hashem was with Hashem [Prov 8:30].
OJB
Jesus=D'var Hashem/Hashem/Elohim.

J.


Even in trinity Greek Lexicons John 1:1 reads--In the beginning The LOGOS(WORD) was and the LOGOS( word)was with HO THEOS, and the LOGOS( word) was Theos--- The whole reason the true God is called HO Theos and Jesus is called Theos is to show Jesus is not the true living God nor was being called the true God. Plain Theos= has godlike qualities--How--Because the true God did it all through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6. Trinity translations are altered, filled with misleading errors by catholicism translating-The only translating in existence of the NT when the Protestants translated. Catholicisms own bible exposes them as false religion. The Protestants didnt correct much, they didnt have a clue. They could see how false catholicism was and ran from them.
 

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Your teachers twist what actually is said. The might is not the same as almighty. Only in trinity translation was Jesus given worship--It is actually obesiance to Jesus. The bible writers all learned from the Israelite religion who were Gods chosen, they had the true God=The Abrahamic God, always was a single being God. They knew 100% the Messiah has a God like we do-Psalm 45:7--thus would not bow in worship to him, they bowed in obesiance to Gods appointed king. The same Greek word for worship has 4 other meanings-obesiance to a king is one of them. Catholicism mistranslated that word for Jesus to fit their false council teaching( 381 ce) of God being a trinity. No trinity was ever served before 381 ce by a true follower. Nor after by a true follower.

Jesus Christ is Worshipped equally as the Father and praised and glorified as the Father

Believe what you like but you cannot get around this Truth
 

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Please help me to understand what is meant here. If Jesus was "a god" then He could be THE God or a false god. What else could this mean? How can Jesus be "a god"?

Jesus is the Messiah/Christ

A man anointed by his God...


“Christ” God or title?
Dr. Hugh Schonfield, in his book the Passover Plot. Reported that many Christians he spoke with were not even aware that the term "Christ" was simply a Greek translation of the Hebrew title Messiah, and thought somehow that it referred to the Second Person of the Trinity. "So connected had the word ‘Christ’ become with the idea of Jesus as God incarnate that the title ‘Messiah’ was treated as something curiously Jewish and not associated.”

N.T. Write, the Bishop of Litchfield, agrees: “One of the most persistent mistakes throughout the literature on Jesus and the last hundred years is to use the word ‘Christ,’ which simply means ‘Messiah’, as though it was a ‘divine’ title.” Who was Jesus? p.57.

According to its OT usage, the term Messiah, the Anointed One, indicates a call to office.

Most certainly, it was not the title of an aspect of the Godhead. This is a later Gentile invention that came about by ignoring Jesus’ Jewish context and inventing a doctrine called the Incarnation- the idea that a second member of the Trinity, God the son, became a human being. As Lockhart says, in Jesus the Heretic, p.137. “Christianity ignored the ‘Messiah’ and theologically worked the ‘Christ’ up into the ‘God-Man.’ Jesus as the ‘Messiah’ is a human being; Jesus as the ‘Christ’ is something entirely different.”

Jesus calls himself "a man" (John 8:40) "But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do. and the apostles call him "a man" (Acts 2: 22; 1 Tim. 2:5). Act 2:22 "Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus
the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know
-- 1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, He is constantly contrasted with and distinguished from God, his Father.

The Hebrew Bible or OT, predicted Jesus would be a man (Is.53:3). But never does the scriptures use the term "God-Man" to tell us who Jesus is. The Greek language of the day had a perfectly good word for “God-Man” (theios aner) but it never appears in the New Testament. So why do we persist with these extra-biblical terms? Why do we continue to employ non-biblical (i.e. unbiblical) language to describe Jesus?

The Bible verse saying is true which says that we are very quick to spot the speck in the eye of another's theology, but how blind we are to the beam in our own. Mary is not the mother of God, according to the scriptures. And neither is Jesus God the Son, nor is he the "God-Man" according to the Bible. And he is nowhere called "God of from God" as the later Nicene Creed called him. Protestants, people of the Bible ought to know that the contentious extra-biblical word used at Nicea, homoousios, meaning ‘of equal substance,’ “did not come from Scripture but, of all things, from Gnostic systems.” Quote from Born Before All-Time? p. 500. Kuschel.

The result was that such terminology introduced alien notions into Christian understanding of God. In other words, "an epoch-making paradigm shift has taken place between Scriptures and Nicea.” Born Before All-Time? p. 503. Kuschel

To the Jewish mind, accustomed to Old Testament teaching on the principles of agency and representation by which God appoints a man to speak or act on his behalf, such a concept was both familiar and acceptable. Whilst it is true that some of Christ's enemies believed him to be usurping or laying claim unlawfully to certain Divine rights or powers, not a single Jew ever thought that the miracles performed by Christ proved that he was a Divine being, and the gospel record indicates that many recognised that he was a man Divinely appointed to exercise power and authority on God's behalf.

Hope this helps Jack,
Paul
 
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try to disprove the article on Revelation 1:8. passing remarks does not answer anything what I have shown

Before I begin to school you on Rev 1:8.... You need to read Rev 1:1.... Jesus is given a revelation, not by a second member of the Trinity buy by His God!!! Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him!
Soooo, Who gave Him the Revelation ByGraceThroughFaith? Himself or his God? Yea, you did not see that did you!

I am the Alpha and the Omega.
This is referenced to Revelation 1:8. But Revelation 1:8 is talking about The Almighty, Revelation 22:12 is not using this title for Jesus but for God again. If we read Revelation 22:6 it tells us who the subject is, "The Lord, the God of prophetic spirits." Jesus does say in Revelation 1:17 that, "I am the first and the last." We shall examine what he meant by that statement.

Just because the same title is used to describe two people does not mean that those two people are one. As we can easily read… David called King Saul
"My Lord " but that does not make Saul God (1 Samuel 24:8).

Israel’s Judges were called "saviors" but that does not make them and Jesus one person? (Nehemiah 9:27).
Jeroboam the Second of Israel is called
"Israel’s savior," but that does not make him Jesus? (2 Kings 13:5)
Before we discuss these verses it would benefit us to understand John’s view of God.

Examples:
John 17:3

"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

Revelation 1:6
"Who (Jesus) has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father."


John 20:17
"But go to my brothers and tell them, "I am going to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

Like I first showed... In these verses John does not consider Jesus to be God in any way. For John, Jesus has a God. John also does not believe Jesus to be omniscient even after his resurrected state. Revelation 1:1 says:
"The
revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him."

Even after his resurrection Jesus is not omniscient. God still gives him revelations.
Emphasis on God gives him. Now we will look at Revelation 1:17 with the correct background of John’s thinking, and not with a mind set on making Jesus God at all costs.

It is obvious that God Almighty is the first and the last, but how is Jesus also the first and the last? Jesus is the first because he is the firstborn in two ways. One, he is the firstborn of God, which to the Jews implied that as the firstborn you are entitled to be the heir of your father, which Jesus is (Hebrews 1:2). Also according to Strong’s Greek Dictionary it means foremost in importance, which Jesus certainly is. This also corresponds with Psalms 89: 28 - 30.
Secondly, Jesus is the firstborn from the dead to be resurrected, which is what Jesus is speaking about in Revelation 1:18 which follows his statement that he is the first and the last. It reads:


"I am the first and the last, the one who lives. Once I was dead, but now I am alive forever."

This is also is in agreement with Colossians 1: 18. Jesus is the last because when he comes again it will be the end of the present age, and he will be in effect the last one to enter this world while it is still under the influence of Satan. He will then usher in the Messianic kingdom of God

You get this for free... ByGraceThroughFaith... Will you see or go with your Liberal Democrat emotions...and reject the truth?
Paul
 

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Before I begin to school you on Rev 1:8.... You need to read Rev 1:1.... Jesus is given a revelation, not by a second member of the Trinity buy by His God!!! Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him!
Soooo, Who gave Him the Revelation ByGraceThroughFaith? Himself or his God? Yea, you did not see that did you!

I am the Alpha and the Omega.
This is referenced to Revelation 1:8. But Revelation 1:8 is talking about The Almighty, Revelation 22:12 is not using this title for Jesus but for God again. If we read Revelation 22:6 it tells us who the subject is, "The Lord, the God of prophetic spirits." Jesus does say in Revelation 1:17 that, "I am the first and the last." We shall examine what he meant by that statement.

Just because the same title is used to describe two people does not mean that those two people are one. As we can easily read… David called King Saul
"My Lord " but that does not make Saul God (1 Samuel 24:8).

Israel’s Judges were called "saviors" but that does not make them and Jesus one person? (Nehemiah 9:27).
Jeroboam the Second of Israel is called
"Israel’s savior," but that does not make him Jesus? (2 Kings 13:5)
Before we discuss these verses it would benefit us to understand John’s view of God.

Examples:
John 17:3

"Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."

Revelation 1:6
"Who (Jesus) has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father."


John 20:17
"But go to my brothers and tell them, "I am going to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

Like I first showed... In these verses John does not consider Jesus to be God in any way. For John, Jesus has a God. John also does not believe Jesus to be omniscient even after his resurrected state. Revelation 1:1 says:
"The
revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him."

Even after his resurrection Jesus is not omniscient. God still gives him revelations.
Emphasis on God gives him. Now we will look at Revelation 1:17 with the correct background of John’s thinking, and not with a mind set on making Jesus God at all costs.

It is obvious that God Almighty is the first and the last, but how is Jesus also the first and the last? Jesus is the first because he is the firstborn in two ways. One, he is the firstborn of God, which to the Jews implied that as the firstborn you are entitled to be the heir of your father, which Jesus is (Hebrews 1:2). Also according to Strong’s Greek Dictionary it means foremost in importance, which Jesus certainly is. This also corresponds with Psalms 89: 28 - 30.
Secondly, Jesus is the firstborn from the dead to be resurrected, which is what Jesus is speaking about in Revelation 1:18 which follows his statement that he is the first and the last. It reads:


"I am the first and the last, the one who lives. Once I was dead, but now I am alive forever."

This is also is in agreement with Colossians 1: 18. Jesus is the last because when he comes again it will be the end of the present age, and he will be in effect the last one to enter this world while it is still under the influence of Satan. He will then usher in the Messianic kingdom of God

You get this for free... ByGraceThroughFaith... Will you see or go with your Liberal Democrat emotions...and reject the truth?
Paul

NOTHING in what you have said disproves what I have written, that Jesus Christ IS Almighty God!
 

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was a demon possessed heretic!
Strange.
NOTHING in what you have said disproves what I have written, that Jesus Christ IS Almighty God!

Your reply just did... No Proof! Show me in scripture Jesus not having a God!!!

Isaiah 44:6 - "Thus says the LORD... there is no God but me."

Isaiah 45:5 - "I am the LORD and there is no other, there is no God besides me."

Isaiah 45:6 - "Men may know that there is none besides me. I am the LORD, there is no other."

No one will contest that to a Jew or a Christian, or someone like you, there is only one God! Anything else would simply be considered polytheism. The majority of Christianity believes in one God, but a God that is plural in makeup. There are three persons that constitute this one God. They are three, but yet, they are still all the one God. There is: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

We all know that God the Son has a Father (God the Father). But the question that must be asked and answered is: can God the Son have a God? Every pastor that I have ever asked this question to has always said "Of course not!" But is that the answer given in Scripture? No, on the contrary. As you will see, the prophesied Messiah in the Old Testament is said to have a God. Then you will see that Jesus the Messiah fulfills those prophesies because he most definitely has a God. If you come to the conclusion that Jesus has a God, then it might be time to rethink and research the Doctrine of the Trinity. Because if God the Son has a God, then there are TWO GODS!

To make this as simple as possible, I am not going to list the huge amount of Scriptures which have God (not "Father") and Jesus in the same sentence, or Scriptures that have God speaking to Jesus, or Jesus speaking to God. We will only be concerned with Scriptures that prove that Jesus has a God.


OLD TESTAMENT MESSIANIC PROPHESIES
Psalm 89:26-28 - "He (the Messiah) shall say of me. "You are my father, my God, my rock, my savior". And I will make him the firstborn."

Micah 5:3-4 - "He (the Messiah) shall stand firm and shepherd his flock by the strength of the LORD, in the Majestic name of the LORD, his God."

Psalm 22:10-11 - "To you I was committed at birth. From my mother’s womb you are my God."

NEW TESTAMENT

Jesus Speaking:

John 20:17 - "I am going to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

Matthew 27:46 - "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?"

Revelation 3:12 - "Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God."

Revelation 3:2 - "for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God."

Paul:

Ephesians 1:3 - "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Ephesians 1:17 - "I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father..."

2 Corinthians 1:3 - "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

2 Corinthians 11:31 - "The God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ knows, He who is blessed forever, that I do not lie."

Romans 15:6 - "that with one accord you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Peter:

1 Peter 1:3 - "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."


John:

Revelation 1:6 - "To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, who has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father."

When one reads the preceding verses, there is one thing that is a fact. That Jesus the Christ has a God! Jesus speaks of his God, Peter Paul and John mention the God of Jesus Christ. Are they all mistaken? Are we to believe that all these verses are mispri
nts? Are we to suppose that theologians several centuries after Christ knew more about Jesus than Jesus and his Apostles? There is no way around it.

The New American Bible (a Roman Catholic Bible) in a section discussing biblical revelation says,

"It is the very same God who reveals Himself in so many richly divergent ways on every page of the Scriptures. The God of Abraham and Moses and David is the God of Jesus of Nazareth."

There's your Proof ByGraceThroughFaith!!!
Paul