God kills Hypocrites and Takes them Home. He will not be Mocked.

[Taken]

One last time. Are you saying that I am creating a teaching that no one else on this site has taught for OSAS?

Are you saying, I am the first one on this sight to suggest that God kills His most wicked children bodily, so as to save their 'testimony', and takes them home early?

What I am saying is obvious. You make up wild claims for a WHOLE group of others, without a shred of evidence a WHOLE group of other people have said such things.

AND what is curiously missing from your posts is your own testimony.

 

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Sure men can “stumble” into to sin. The Ignorant are prime targets, easily fooled that something Wicked or Evil is presented as “good”.




SIN is NOT Believing in the Lord God.
Too many men confuse themselves with believing men can SIN against men.



And yet, YOU do not know, the “unsaved” are NOT born of God.
And yet, YOU contend against Salvation that given is Permanent.



No one has overlooked or denied all earthlings are born in sin.
Some Become forgiven, washed, covered, sanctified, restored, quickened......SOME DO NOT!

By your posts, you know not the difference.

Stumbling into sin could be described in the process of beginning with an antagonism against a doctrine with which you disagree, but then coming to feel contempt for others, and to act on that contempt, derided, attributing evil, things like that. Before you realize what's happened, you've crossed from an honest endeavor for truth into a pride filled rant falsely accusing others.

Much love!

 

[Taken]

Are you saying, I am the first one on this sight to suggest that God kills His most wicked children bodily, so as to save their 'testimony', and takes them home early?

That is such convoluted nonsense, it requires no response.
I said no such thing. I have seen no one but you say such things.

 

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1 John 2:1 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Who has an advocate with the Father? The born again? The not born again?

The born again do. The unregenerate do not have Jesus as their intercessor, not until they come to faith and receive Him.

Why do they need an intercessor? An advocate with the Father? IF any man sin . . .

Much love!

 

[VictoryinJesus]

And the "God will NOT be mocked" part, is mocking them who actually think they are being very serious about God not being mocked, by taking OSAS reprobates home to heaven early.

"I will NOT be mocked by my children!!! That reprobate is coming home to heaven right NOW!!!"

You see the point. It's so lunatic

I do see your point but as much as you say it is lunatic. I carry the same baffled expression over a thread lacking any resemblance of Christ yet claiming to be the authority on Christ. I’m not (trying) to be ugly but I’m only saying it is confusing like someone insulting you while apologizing. It seems like a contradiction within a contradiction: let’s talk about the lunacy of OSAS out from the mouth of the absence of Charity towards your brethren?

 

[Wrangler]

Once Saved Always Saved is so contrary to scripture and simple logic.

Agreed. There are many OSAS threads now. I have not read one coherent response to those verses that go against this doctrine. Just to reference 2.

1. Why would Jesus say not all who call him lord will be saved if it weren’t true?
2. Why would God throw away salt that loses its taste and burn vines that produce no fruit if they were to be saved?

It makes no sense.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

I carry the same baffled expression over a thread lacking any resemblance of Christ yet claiming to be the authority on Christ.

@robert derrick unless I’ve misunderstood
This is the complaint you have with OSAS…the lack of the resemblance of Christ?

 

[robert derrick]

That is such convoluted nonsense, it requires no response.
I said no such thing. I have seen no one but you say such things.

Finally. I simple answer, and how many efforts did it take? 3, 4?

In any case, I don't believe anyone on this site of the OSAS persuasion, can be so ignorant of what other OSAS believers post, except on purpose.

In any case you can now accuse the poster of #64 of the same thing.

Falsely accuse me all you want. If you say I am lying and gaslighting, then that is a rules offense, and you can take it to the moderators. I will provide to them the saved quotes and from who. It is a rules violation to do so on another thread without the other's permission.

Your accusations against me are plainly false, because you think you are a better OSAS than others. They would call that self-righteous boasting on your part.

I'll no longer personally instruct you in this nor any other matter, but only continue to expose any false doctrinal points you teach.

He has a methodology.
He decides what another’s doctrine is.
He decides what an other believes.
Then he rails against what he has decided for an other.
Gaslighting.

See what is missing? His own testimony!

The methodology is posting what OSAS, Sabbath-commanders, christ-creators, mariologists, etc... teach without all the fair fluff of words, celebratory grace, and pseudo-Scripture speak.

Instead, I show by Scripture the foolishness, and in this case, the insanity of it.

But since OSAS says inky letters of Scripture on paper are dead anyway, then it is no surprise.

The only question remains why OSAS even bothers. The only Scripture on earth today is what they say it is from their own mind, and letters of parchment of old no longer matter to them anyway.

That is another OSAS tenet.

As well as declaring a lifetime of unrighteous publicanism boasting, to be humility.

You really should leave the guy alone, afterall, he only did it once and repented, and so walked away justified to sin no more. You make a living at it. I'm surprised your breast isn't sunken in with all the times you've been pounding on it in depraved unrighteous 'humility'.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

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Sure men can “stumble” into to sin.

I showed the scripture showing this to be false. You ignored them like you’ve been trained to do I guess (Step #4):

 

[robert derrick]

Agreed. There are many OSAS threads now. I have not read one coherent response to those verses that go against this doctrine. Just to reference 2.

1. Why would Jesus say not all who call him lord will be saved if it weren’t true?
2. Why would God throw away salt that loses its taste and burn vines that produce no fruit if they were to be saved?

It makes no sense.

You have to know where people are coming from, before you can make sense of what they say.

OSAS teaches that inky letters of Scripture no longer matter, but only what is written in their hearts and minds.

And so, the final authority is what they think, believe, and imagine in their own minds, and twisting dead letters to prove it, is nothing to them.

The only question is why they bother quoting old dead inky letters in the first place?

That's the real conundrum.

But, in any case, when you read them, just understand that they are not believing any Scriptures on paper, as the final authority, but from the only real authority on earth that matters to them: that which is written in their own minds.

It's pretty fascinating stuff, and there is actually one theme of rhyme and reason to it: They are self-confessed unrighteous christian and double hearted sinners for life, with neighborliness. That is OSAS in a hard nutshell they will not escape from.

And the only ones they are not neighborly with, is anyone such as yourself, daring to quote from ink-stained parchments, that do not agree with the scripture in their heads.

That upsets them, and gives them a headache.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

SIN is NOT Believing in the Lord God.

What?!

You teach extra biblical doctrines.

For the scripture says:

“…sin is the transgression of the law.” (1 John 3:4)

 

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You have to know where people are coming from, before you can make sense of what they say.

OSAS teaches that inky letters of Scripture no longer matter, but only what is written in their hearts and minds.

And so, the final authority is what they think, believe, and imagine in their own minds, and twisting dead letters to prove it, is nothing to them.

The only question is why they bother quoting old dead inky letters in the first place?

That's the real conundrum.

But, in any case, when you read them, just understand that they are not believing any Scriptures on paper, as the final authority, but from the only real authority on earth that matters to them: that which is written in their own minds.

It's pretty fascinating stuff, and there is actually one theme of rhyme and reason to it: They are self-confessed unrighteous christian and double hearted sinners for life, with neighborliness. That is OSAS in a hard nutshell they will not escape from.

And the only ones they are not neighborly with, is anyone such as yourself, daring to quote from ink-stained parchments, that do not agree with the scripture in their heads.

That upsets them, and gives them a headache.

1 Corinthians 13:3-8 KJV
3) And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4) Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5) Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6) Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7) Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8) Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

Much love!

 

[robert derrick]

What?!

You teach extra biblical doctrines.

For the scripture says:

“…sin is the transgression of the law.” (1 John 3:4)

Thank you brother, sir, saint, beloved!!

You quote Scripture to show what the God of Scripture says something is!

They do not believe what is written in letters on paper matters anymore, as much as what is written in their own minds.

Therefore, if they say sin is only unbelief, then to them sin is only unbelief. And when you quote old dead letters that says sin is only transgression of the law, then they dismiss it as old hat.

Keep up the Lord's work brother. Or sister.

 

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What?!

You teach extra biblical doctrines.

For the scripture says:

“…sin is the transgression of the law.” (1 John 3:4)

I wouldn't limit the meaning of what "sin" is to the Law.

Of sin, because they believe not in Me.

That which is not of faith is sin.

The good you know to do and don't do, that is sin.

Much love!

 

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They do not believe what is written in letters on paper matters anymore, as much as what is written in their own minds.

False accusation, plain and simple. That's not a good example of a life lived without sinning, to falsely rail against others.

Much love!

 

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For the scripture says:

“…sin is the transgression of the law.” (1 John 3:4)

Exodus 20:16 KJV
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

There is a lot of this false witnessing going on here.

Much love!

 

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Therefore, if they say sin is only unbelief, then to them sin is only unbelief. And when you quote old dead letters that says sin is only transgression of the law, then they dismiss it as old hat.

I wouldn't limit the meaning of what "sin" is to the Law.

Of sin, because they believe not in Me.

That which is not of faith is sin.

The good you know to do and don't do, that is sin.

Much love!

 

[robert derrick]

False accusation, plain and simple. That's not a good example of a life lived without sinning, to falsely rail against others.

Much love!

If you reject this OSAS teaching, say so. So far as other deep OSAS believers are, you're only partly the way in.

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

 

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If you reject this OSAS teaching, say so.

What, that I don't believe the Bible? That's what you want me to "renounce", as of others don't believe the Bible, and I'm separating from them?

You've been venting your false accusations for weeks now. Railing and accusing and posting thread after thread after thread, spamming the board with your false accusations.

I've tried to dialog with you, and you've show, hey, this is kind of an irony, you've shown me that whatever it is I tell you, you prefer your own version, and you label me with your version, then rail against me for it.

Yes, this is irony!

More irony, this from a man who claims that if you sin you're not born again.

Much love!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

That's not a good example of a life lived without sinning, to falsely rail against others.

You are respecting @Taken ‘s person.

He excluded all other sins, including the ones transgressing the law, implying that only the one sin he mentioned was sin.

Weird how preaching against sin is so despised around here…