The Resurrection is for all people (thank you Yeshua!)

[MatthewG]

Hello @Earburner,

I believe Jesus Christ already came back, I believe that the Revelation had come and happened and was for the very specific people it was for in that day in age, however there are principles that one can learn from reading that book.

@Earburner

The thing is, I believe that God want and desire is 2 Peter 3:9 and he will get what he wants. Meaning that none will perish.

Sure people died, 1,000,000 jewish people died on the day of the return of the Lord in Jerusalem in 70 Ad ,and judgement was made against them in which their whole area burnt down with fire and the elements melted.

So, I don't believe that Jesus is coming back anymore, and he had already returned and got his bride and now today we simply wrestle our own soul. Will we repent of our former ways and look to God or will we not. Are there after life consequences for doing so, yes I believe so.

Are all people annihilated? I mean destroyed, ruined? To some degree for non-believers yes, but for believers? Everyone reaps what they sow.

I believe there are two places for people after this life, in the heavenly realms those outside the kingdom who died faithless, and those who are in the kingdom with God because of their faith and it is based on having love for God and having love for others.

Hello @face2face, yep but God wants and desire will be met.

All people will be resurrected and there is place for both to go.

 

[MatthewG]

Of course what people believe to themselves of what God desires, should know he desires us to turn towards Him.

Either way it goes, God has an over all plan, and it kind of gets pointless to debate people who do not believe that God will achieve his over all plan.

God desires for none to perish don't you get it?

My prayer is for people to understand that.

 

[MatthewG]

Is there still a reason to share the Gospel even if all people are going to be reconciled to God be it on the outside or inside of the kingdom?

You bet your bottom dollar there is.

There is nothing like sharing the Gospel of Christ that is the power of God unto Salvation that can save a soul from ruin. . .

 

[face2face]

Hello @face2face, yep but God wants and desire will be met.

All people will be resurrected and there is place for both to go.

Yes, eternal life for some and eternal death for others.

 

[MatthewG]

Hey @face2face, whatever you believe is not incumbent on me to accept.

So, I love that you simply use Eternal - that is an Age.

And according to the Bible there is a resurrection after Death. So that is a very interesting tell-tale sign of resurrection for all people.

Now if you don't believe that, or you believe people are destroyed or you believe people are annihilated that doesn't matter to me because I believe it is the wrong view and approach but people can accept and believe whatever they want.

I will continue to love you either way.

 

[face2face]

Hey @face2face, whatever you believe is not incumbent on me to accept.

So, I love that you simply use Eternal - that is an Age.

And according to the Bible there is a resurrection after Death. So that is a very interesting tell-tale sign of resurrection for all people.

Now if you don't believe that, or you believe people or destroyed or you believe people are annihilated that doesn't matter to me because I believe it is the wrong view and approach but people can accept and believe whatever they want.

I will continue to love you either way.

No problem MattG many will turn to fables and believe what they think the Spirit is telling them. It's all part of the end times! But woe to that person who harms His little ones.

 

[MatthewG]

No problem MattG many will turn to fables and believe what they think the Spirit is telling them. It's all part of the end times! But woe to that person who harms His little ones.

I believe that the end times has came and went, and it can be biblically proven my friend.

Love to you.

 

[face2face]

I believe that the end times has came and went, and it can be biblically proven my friend.

Love to you.

Has the mount of olives split in two? Zechariah 14:4

 

[MatthewG]

I can not answer you that question my friend.

I can boldly proclaim that Jesus Christ wasn't lying to his disciples about all the things he promised to come in that generation would come and did, and that Apostles were not lying to the people in that day in age who received letters that were warning them about the time of Christ as it came closer and closer to the imminent return in which you can see by the Apostle John about the Seven churches, and how Jesus was going to return quickly with rewards, and judgement.

So you can try to get me all twisted up by something I do not know but I can boldly stick to what I do know and who didn't never lie in the first place, that is Jesus Christ and his Apostles.

 

[face2face]

I can not answer you that question my friend.

I can boldly proclaim that Jesus Christ wasn't lying to his disciples about all the things he promised to come in that generation would come and did, and that Apostles were not lying to the people in that day in age who received letters that were warning them about the time of Christ as it came closer and closer to the imminent return in which you can see by the Apostle John about the Seven churches, and how Jesus was going to return quickly with rewards, and judgement.

So you can try to get me all twisted up by something I do not know but I can boldly stick to what I do know and who didn't never lie in the first place, that is Jesus Christ and his Apostles.

Nope still in one piece MattG

 

[face2face]

I can not answer you that question my friend.

I can boldly proclaim that Jesus Christ wasn't lying to his disciples about all the things he promised to come in that generation would come and did, and that Apostles were not lying to the people in that day in age who received letters that were warning them about the time of Christ as it came closer and closer to the imminent return in which you can see by the Apostle John about the Seven churches, and how Jesus was going to return quickly with rewards, and judgement.

So you can try to get me all twisted up by something I do not know but I can boldly stick to what I do know and who didn't never lie in the first place, that is Jesus Christ and his Apostles.

Zechariah 14:8 Moreover, on that day living waters will flow out from Jerusalem, half of them to the eastern sea and half of them to the western sea; it will happen both in summer and in winter.

Nope no rivers flowing out of the Mount of Olives either.

 

[MatthewG]

That is talking about the New Jerusalem but many people are looking for literal application.

Zechariah 14:8 Moreover, on that day living waters will flow out from Jerusalem, half of them to the eastern sea and half of them to the western sea; it will happen both in summer and in winter.

Nope no rivers flowing out of the Mount of Olives either.

 

[face2face]

That is talking about the New Jerusalem but many people are looking for literal application.

Very literal that prophecy for good reason!

 

[Lambano]

I believe there are two places for people after this life, in the heavenly realms those outside the kingdom who died faithless, and those who are in the kingdom with God because of their faith and it is based on having love for God and having love for others.

Matthew, what do believe the conditions are like for those outside the Kingdom?

 

[face2face]

That is talking about the New Jerusalem but many people are looking for literal application.

Zechariah 14:9 The Lord will then be king over all the earth. In that day the Lord will be seen as one with a single name.

(unfulfilled MattG)

 

[face2face]

Matthew, what do believe are the conditions like for those outside the Kingdom?

Depends on the timing MattG.
At the start the stone cut without hands will be grinding down the Nations!
At the end sin released and those outside the gates are dead!

 

[MatthewG]

Matthew, what do believe are the conditions like for those outside the Kingdom?

All I have is what Jesus talked about, there is resurrection of life, and resurrection of judgement or condemnation. (There is afterlife loss for them, and they don't have very much spirituality built up in them as those who follow and look to Christ.)

And what John said about those outside the kingdom, perhaps they do not have any devotion to God but they are outside the Kingdom.

Now don't get me wrong, if you have a difference of belief, it is all about loving people and loving God first.

Your thoughts on it @Lambano?

Very literal that prophecy for good reason!

Okay. Love you either way.

 

[MatthewG]

@face2face, believes that Jesus is still to come, that is fine. I love you, and may you continue to go ahead and believe what you want because it doesn't effect me personally. I believe that Jesus did not lie about coming back and setting up his kingdom. Nor do I believe Malachi was wrong about anything that he said, or Zechariah, however there are different ways people interpret those scriptures friend.

 

[face2face]

Okay. Love you either way.

I hope your love protects in that day and not found to be humanism.

 

[face2face]

@face2face, believes that Jesus is still to come, that is fine. I love you, and may you continue to go ahead and believe what you want because it doesn't effect me personally. I believe that Jesus did not lie about coming back and setting up his kingdom. Nor do I believe Malachi was wrong about anything that he said, or Zechariah, however there are different ways people interpret those scriptures friend.

It's a very detailed picture comprising so many prophecies and if you are not able to see the whole, the part will make no sense to you.