Who Created or Made a Sin Nature?

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robert derrick

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It was a rhetorical question.

What you have claimed, saying that "babes are innocent" is not from scripture, therefore it is obvious who told you.
Neither do I butt into other people's conversation without permission. You're both wrong and rude.

You may understand one day, that some people I no longer bother correcting.
 
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you too, Scott? This is some ridic cult of sol bs that you cannot Quote anywhere, imo
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:16
And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.
 

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Neither do I butt into other people's conversation without permission. You're both wrong and rude.
Why then should you also make yourself out to be a hypocrite, opening a public discussion, then calling those who you do not agree with "wrong and rude", though they quote the scriptures of your correction?

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:16
And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.
 

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Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 5:16
And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification.
eternal from aion, yes, not aidios, right
Quoting Scripture i like, as it doesnt steer anyone wrong
but ppl who say that they know stuff, yikes
 

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Does “eternal” still mean “forever” to you? Imo do yourself a favor, and dig into a decent concordance, if that is the case. The Bible itself warns us about scribes, right
 

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Does “eternal” still mean “forever” to you? Imo do yourself a favor, and dig into a decent concordance, if that is the case. The Bible itself warns us about scribes, right
You have confirmed for me, that sideshows are useless and only divert from the subject of the thread at hand.

Thanks.
 

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The purpose of this thread has pretty much concluded itself.

Only one person has tried to say who is the author of having sin placed in the seed of man and in the flesh of babes today, and they said Adam did it to himself, and an ongoing automated natural selection for sin is how babes are now made in the womb.

Which means man became the maker of his own seed and flesh in the womb, by changing it from what Christ created yesterday in the beginning.

And so, today Christ is no more the Creator and Maker today of babes in the womb, which of course is false.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


Every soul and every babe in the womb are still created the same today, as they were yesterday, for God's good pleasure, and not for sport of the devil.
 

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The purpose of this thread has pretty much concluded itself.

Only one person has tried to say who is the author of having sin placed in the seed of man and in the flesh of babes today, and they said Adam did it to himself, and an ongoing automated natural selection for sin is how babes are now made in the womb.

Which means man became the maker of his own seed and flesh in the womb, by changing it from what Christ created yesterday in the beginning.

And so, today Christ is no more the Creator and Maker today of babes in the womb, which of course is false.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
You attempt to correct error with error. You speak as if sin were never a problem that made all men captive and therefore no need for a Savior. This has been the lie from the beginning.
 

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You speak as if sin were never a problem that made all men captive and therefore no need for a Savior.
So, you actually make a comment on what I write. Now, if you would show exactly where you get this notion from what I have written, then I'd be glad to look at it. Thanks.
 

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It was a rhetorical question.

What you have claimed, saying that "babes are innocent" is not from scripture, therefore it is obvious who told you.
OK, I'm dense because it isn't obvious to me. Who told RD babies are innocent if it isn't in scripture?

Conversely, where is the exact words of God that states in utero babies are sinners?
 

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So, you actually make a comment on what I write. Now, if you would show exactly where you get this notion from what I have written, then I'd be glad to look at it. Thanks.
I replied with a quote of what you said. Now you don't know what you wrote?

Never mind...you have already said enough.
 

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I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven

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You misunderstand.

The likeness of little children that Jesus was referring to, was humility:

Matthew 18:4
Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
 
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Conversely, where is the exact words of God that states in utero babies are sinners?

10) As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one: (including babies)
11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God'
12) They are all gone out of their way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good no, not one.

To God Be The Glory
 

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10) As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one: (including babies)
11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God'
12) They are all gone out of their way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good no, not one.

To God Be The Glory
Babies are not sinners.
 
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Neither do I butt into other people's conversation without permission. You're both wrong and rude.

FYI, this forum is for CHRISTIANS ONLY Any Christian can respond and make comments to any post.

The purpose of this thread has pretty much concluded itself.

Indeed, it has! There is nothing more for you to conclude in your flawed theology.

To God Be The Glory
 
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10) As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one: (including babies)
11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God'
12) They are all gone out of their way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good no, not one.

To God Be The Glory
No, that isn't God's own words that babies are sinners in the womb.
 

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No, that isn't God's own words that babies are sinners in the womb

Romans 3:10-12 was written in conjunction with Psalms 58:3-7 so as to create a bigger picture!!!

Or, didn't you know that everything in the Bible, inter-relates? Obviously not, or you wouldn't have made a remark like you made above.

To God B The Glory