What benefit does it produce to make Jesus God

[amigo de christo]

God is very Creative.

For example..

He Made Adam out of dirt.

He made Eve out of Adam.

He wrapped the Pre-Incarnate Christ in Human Flesh and caused Him to be born from a Virgin's womb.

And you were caused to be created by the joining of 2 people, who became "One Flesh".

That is 4 ways that a human can be caused to exist.

Yet only one way to be saved . THAT IS IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE . Let all that draws breath praise and thank the glorious Lord .

 

[Behold]

Im still trying to figure out why I pee 6 times a day. Is it that God is creative or am I reading the wrong bible?

God didn't create your prostate issue, and not everything that says "bible" on the cover, is one.
And before i forget, thank's for sharing that with us.
Your prostate issue is related to your age.
See a Urologist.
They can help you, or, just keep making those trips to the bathroom.
You have Free Will, so, use it wisely, if possible.

 

[Behold]

Yet only one way to be saved . THAT IS IN JESUS CHRIST ALONE . Let all that draws breath praise and thank the glorious Lord .

Amen.

John 14:6

 

[Peterlag]

Firstly, Jesus is Emanuel, That means he is God with us ! and our Salvation !
Not to mention one can not by pass Him in fact and one can only go through him in fact to know the Father in fact !
Outside of all above such is just Religious dribble regardless of what Religion one may claim, be it so called Christian or Jewish or Islam.

Not to mention if anyone thinks Jesus is just a Man, one is not a Christian in fact. Not worthy of Christ Jesus in fact !

Jesus is not the God of the Dead in fact ! but he is the Living God, through such one had life abundantly ! outside of such is one who has not Life in Christ Jesus in fact, because they have not been truly born again in fact. for if they were they would know that Christ Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega as far as humans are concerned. why because we need him ! and your cat or dog etc do not need him etc etc, but we do in fact ! because we are Saved, we are his body and he is our Head ! Everything is about Him in fact first and foremost in our lives, it's him we serve ! outside of that is just of this world = Deceptions and Delusions in fact.
Christ Jesus is all about the Kingdom of God in fact, one is Saved in the Kingdom of God in fact and not of the Deceptions and Delusions of this world, a Slave to this world duped by such nonsense, because ones eyes are open to such. That's why I have Life in abundance and others do not posses such, Such are wasting their life on the madness of this world in being duped by such.
Religion does not save ! Only Christ Jesus Saves in fact !

I do not believe you answered my question nor have I ever found a verse that says I'm not a Christian if I believe Jesus is not God. But if I'm right about Jesus not being God. Then would it be fair to say that you don't know who the Christ is?

 

[Peterlag]

The answer is quite simple. God had to become Man in order to die for the sins of the whole world and then rise again on the third day for our justification. No man and no angel could die for the sins of the world.

Did I not just give 2 verses that said the Bible says a man must do it?

 

[TLHKAJ]

It is astounding to me the amount of people claiming to be Christians who do not believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God ...the Word who was and is God, who was made flesh ...the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End ....the Almighty. HE IS GOD! If you do not believe in Him, you are not saved.... period.

 

[Peterlag]

The benefit is a thing of relationship. It wasn't some guy that God the Father anointed to live a perfect life in order to be the perfect sacrifice for my sins. It was God Himself that freely laid down His life in my place that I might live, through faith in Him.

Any time I use the word "God" I'm referring the triune Godhead that consists of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

It was God the Son who did this for me! That's how much He loved me and wanted the best for me, willing to lay down His own life. Image that, God Himself, the creator of everything that exists died a cruel death that day for me! And all He asks is that I believe in Him, what He did for me on that Cross.

That is very humbling to think that God not only didn't forget about me, He gave everything for me. How can I repay Him for such a thing? I can't, and will never be able to!

That is why I follow Him, that is why I love Him! The reason my relationship with Him is more important than anything in my life.

Did I not just list 2 verses that said a man had to give his life? Can you give me 2 verses that say a god man had to do it?

 

[Peterlag]

the word …if the word was a mere flesh man without the Spirit of God …then how did the word became flesh and dwelt among us, was dead and is alive? To me the argument is like asking: what benefit is there in the word of God being made Alive?

So you can't give us a verse telling us that the god-man had a benefit?

 

[Peterlag]

I doubt you'll get an honest answer.



Mr. Avoid the Subject and Replace Question With What You Deem A Better Question,

Why not answer Peterlag's inferior question, out of respect, and then start a new thread with your superior, better question?

So far nobody.

 

[Blue Dragonfly's]

I can't get anyone to answer this honest question. All I get back is because the Bible says so. But there must be a reason for it. What is it? Here I will give you a reason why he had to be a man.

Romans says a man (Adam) caused sin to enter into the world, and also that a man would have to redeem it from sin. Romans 5:15 says “For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.” The Bible specifically says that a man must do it. The book of Corinthians makes the same point Romans does when it says “For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead” (1 Corinthians 15:21).

Now it's your turn. Anyone?

What benefit?
The truth.
Is a benefit a lie cannot understand.

 

[Peterlag]

Isaiah 43:11
I, yes I, am the LORD, and there is no Savior but Me.

Since I'm not Jewish... do you have a verse in the New Testament?

 

[Peterlag]

What benefit did it produce when God made Moses God to Pharaoh?

So you don't have an answer?

 

[Matthias]

So you don't have an answer?

Moses typology was my answer.

 

[Peterlag]

We can't make anything spiritual. Jesus is the Creator (Col. 1:16, 17; John 1:1; Hebrews 1:8).
Jesus is referred to as the God/man. God emptied Himself and became a human - obviously just partially. Man needed to experience God up close and personal. Jesus is the exact essence and illumination of God. You cannot be exactly like Gid unless you are God. Jesus temporarily relinquished His glory ( of which was shown to the disciples) so that He, as a man, could become our High Priest to perform the ultimate sacrifice, Himself. But His physical body is not His Spirit. His Spirit existed before His birth and scripture is clear that He said,
" Before Abraham was, I Am";
"I Am the Bread of Life that came down from heaven";
"Father, glorify Me as I was before ...";
"I Am the Way, the Truth and the Life";
" I Am the Alpha and Omega";
" I AM the Resurrection and the Life", etc.
You cannot read through the book of John and not see His deity unless you do not have the Holy Spirit to help you discern scripture.
Jesus cannot be in authority of heaven and earth UNLESS He is God. It requires omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence. Jesus could have not carried the sins of mankind (trillions) which He Himself would have to know each one, for all our sins were imputed onto Him - for all time. This is a task you can't fathom nor take lightly.

I gave 2 verses that say a man had to do what you call the ultimate sacrifice. Can you give me 2 verses that say a god-man had to do it?

 

[Peterlag]

Jeremiah 31:30 says that each man will pay for his own sins.
Jesus is not just a man, if he was he could only pay for his own sins, but as the Son of God incarnate as a man he could pay for All our sins.

If you accept that Jesus is your saviour, you are automaticly accepting him as the Son of God. How else are your sins to be forgiven?

I gave 2 verses that say a man had to pay for our sins. Can you give me 2 verses that say a god-man had to do it?

 

[Charlie24]

Did I not just list 2 verses that said a man had to give his life? Can you give me 2 verses that say a god man had to do it?

The Scripture doesn't have to tell you, it's common sense!

The only way possible was for God Himself to be that perfect sacrifice for man's sin.

There was no other man who was sinless that could meet that requirement!

 

[Peterlag]

What benefit?
The truth.
Is a benefit a lie cannot understand.

So you have no verse?

 

[Peterlag]

The Scripture doesn't have to tell you, it's common sense!

The only way possible was for God Himself to be that perfect sacrifice for man's sin.

There was no other man who was sinless that could meet that requirement!

Bible does not agree with you. Are my 2 verses wrong?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

So you can't give us a verse telling us that the god-man had a benefit?

Is there no benefit in?
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Colossians 2:9: For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,

 

[MatthewG]

I can't get anyone to answer this honest question. All I get back is because the Bible says so. But there must be a reason for it. What is it? Here I will give you a reason why he had to be a man.

Romans says a man (Adam) caused sin to enter into the world, and also that a man would have to redeem it from sin. Romans 5:15 says “For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.” The Bible specifically says that a man must do it. The book of Corinthians makes the same point Romans does when it says “For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead” (1 Corinthians 15:21).

Now it's your turn. Anyone?

All I know is that Jesus was learning to be God - in which when everything had been placed underneath the feet of Jesus, and Jesus handed everything back to God, that God would be all in all, and thus Jesus - the Word of God - the only begotten Son - became the Lord God Almighty.

He was a man, and the very Word of God - was with-in the man named Jesus...