Let’s not allow anyone to convince us that an apple is an orange.
Let’s also make sure we’re holding on to an apple when someone tells us we’re holding on to an orange, thinking it to be an apple.
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Either that or he’s a fool.
I was thinking about a false assertion someone made about me this morning while I was waiting in the school carpool line to drop off my grandson: If I say something which a person hearing it isn’t persuaded is true, then they shouldn’t believe it.
Apples and oranges again....
I find it comical to some degree, but it's very prevalent here on the forum. Many have the tendency to use the same words as others while applying different meanings. Your trinity dialogues are prime examples. Even traditional trinitarians toss the term about as if they have a clear definition and understanding- which in most cases they do not, or they do not agree on what it means, and they certainly differ with what you attempt to clarify... so in essence you are talking apples and oranges. One is holding an apple and calling it an apple, one an orange and calling it by that same name, and yet another is holding a pineapple and insisting it too is an apple, because it has 'apple' in it.
And rather than examining each of these perspectives to 'taste and see' the substance of each, people want to shun or shame, condemn or contain or censor views that differ from their own. "You're a JW! Satanic! Heretic!" --it's no different than the need to silence opposing voices that we see daily in politics and media. Anything that counters the 'orthodox' narrative is ridiculed or labeled in an attempt to dismiss or discredit the information --even if it's true! -because the narrative often cannot stand up to scrutiny. Religion is no different.
Watch out when the best they've got is to shout you down or shut you down. "Disinformation! Fake News!"
The parallels are stunning. Yet these people see counter-arguments as a threat to their narratives and agendas. They view things not as apples and oranges where one is different from another and equally good depending on one's preference- no. They see one as acceptable and the other not. They view one as something to hold up and the other to smash apart.
It's the old saying that if all you have in your toolbox is a hammer you'll treat everything as if it is a nail. It's not an endorsement of the versatility of hammers (not everything can be fixed with a hammer) -it's a repudiation of the handyman.