RLT63
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Some make the case for annihilationism. This is a good book on the subject-https://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-Hell-Counterpoints-Theology/dp/0310516463.Yes.
The God of mercy has no mercy?
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Some make the case for annihilationism. This is a good book on the subject-https://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-Hell-Counterpoints-Theology/dp/0310516463.Yes.
The God of mercy has no mercy?
He was dead and buried. As dead as you can be. But he preached to the spirits that were imprisonedDoesn't say anything to support your doctrine that a part of Jesus escaped death upon crucifixion. To say only his flesh died, implies some part of him did not die. This is an extra-Biblical assertion.
May I know the difference between the spirit of God and the spirit of Christ?
So, you don't believe in death, independent of whether Jesus is God or not?
Some make the case for annihilationism. This is a good book on the subject-https://www.amazon.com/Four-Views-Hell-Counterpoints-Theology/dp/0310516463.
I take a form of Pascal's wager on eternal conscious torment. I try to live as though there is such a thing and if it turns out there is not I have lost nothing.It is a good book. I’m an annihilationist. As you seem to be aware, it’s not a trinitarian vs. non-trinitarian issue.
The God of love and mercy showing no love, no mercy, to his is enemies is out of character. Such a being isn’t the one God.
Destroying the incorrigibly wicked, extinguishing their lamp, putting them out of existence, is an act of love and mercy.
Some years ago I heard a sermon given by a preacher who believes in conditional immortality. I think the preacher was Edward Fudge, but it was so long ago that I don’t remember with certainty. The preacher said it all goes back to the Garden of Eden and the serpent saying “You will not die.”. This is where he located the origin of the immortal soul belief.
There are many good books on conditional immortality. The best historical survey I’ve ever read is a two-volume work titled The Conditionalist Faith of Our Fathers, written by LeRoy Froom (a trinitarian, if you are wondering.) It’s massive. I wish I had it in my own personal library but I don’t. It can be read online at no cost. I’ll look for the links and post them here for you or anyone else who is interested in reading it.
Volume 1. https://documents.adventistarchives.org/Books/CFOOF1966-V01.pdf
I take a form of Pascal's wager on eternal conscious torment. I try to live as though there is such a thing and if it turns out there is not I have lost nothing.
Surely, but in the Spirit
9 But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Emmanuel
He sacrificed his own son so no one would ever have to go there.In my opinion, that makes God more evil than the devil.
He was dead and buried. As dead as you can be. But he preached to the spirits that were imprisoned
1Pe 3:18-20
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For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited
He sacrificed his own son so no one would ever have to go there.
He sacrificed his own son so no one would ever have to go there.
What was the purpose of the dead being raised after the crucifixion and appearing to many?I don’t believe he did so while he was “dead and buried. As dead as you can be.”
I believe he did so after he was made alive - resurrected from the dead - by the Spirit.
John 3:16umm...no. You are thinking of the Romans, or maybe the Jews, but God didn't kill His own son.
mover and done
in baptism we died with christ
John 3:16
Jhn 3:16
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jhn 10:17
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“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
Jhn 10:18
“No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”
What was the purpose of the dead being raised after the crucifixion and appearing to many?
“Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.God sent His son. That's much different than saying God sacrificed His son, as if it was His doing. Men did that.
Putting aside the debate, do you truly comprehend these words as parially alive rather than was dead THEN made alive?He was dead and buried. As dead as you can be. But he preached to the spirits that were imprisoned
1Pe 3:18-20
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For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited[
Including Jesus, who was given all authority by God.and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.