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First off too many folks are putting true believers into the camp of the same kind of believer i once was . That kind of believer i once was
I got news , WASNT BORN AGAIN PERIOD . THUS was NOT saved . I had head knowledge , i had heard the gospel .
I even beleived it . Could and did preach to an atheist in the marines . YET i was lost as he was .
SO lets stop believing that all truly believe . What JESUS are they believing in . NOW That is the question .
AND boy do i have news . IF IT is a jesus contrary to the biblical one , THEY BEEN DUPED BIG TIME .
So lets establish that truth FIRST .
Secondarily , if the early church , even paul himself , warned if one does not continue in CHRIST to the end
I SUGGEST we do the same . That kind of speech can wake up some of those who sleep and have been lulled to sleep
under another JESUS . ALL warnings and all reminders MUST be continously reminded .
IN the end those who came out , WERE NEVER OF US . That is TRUE . LEt no man say otherwise . AND the reason i say it
is because ITS IN THE BIBLE . TOLD ya i stick to the bible . BUT SO are all warnings and all reminders .
AND if peter acknowledged and john acknowledged that those to whom they were writing , WERE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE TRUTH
and YET THEY WARNED THEM TOO . I SUGGEST we do the same . THERE is a reason the SPIRIT DOES AS IT DOES .
AND that reason is for the good of those who do follow . IT even helps those who have slipped .
TIME TO stop preaching acroynms and time to start speaking ALL the TRUTH .
PS , MOST FOLKS THINK they are saved . MOST ALL folks within christendom THINK They are born again .
AINT TRUE . Aint true at all . NOT even close . ITS TIME we preach and teach and point to the biblical CHRIST .
The way to both know and do that , IS LEARN THY BIBLE FOR YOU and cease from what men have been a teaching .
TIME to strap on all the armour of GOD . TIME to embrace ALL the warnings and all the reminders and EVERY word written .
Cause the moment we start twisting stuff and omitting stuff , AINT GONNA MAKE IT .
I seem to notice that MOST that say no matter what i do i cant LOSE salvation , SURE SEEM TO BE QUITE WORDLY .
YOU know , they seem to have no problem celebrating halloween , or watching shows on TV , or
even defending or overlooking gay marriage , EVEN WITHIN THE CHURCH . and many other things they do .
NOW WHY IS THAT . Exactly . SOMETHING HAS WENT WRONG in their walk . TIME TO RETURN TO THE BIBLE
LEARN THAT GOD , LEARN HIS CHRIST and LEARN ALL SOUND DOCTRINE .

Uh huh....and THAT is my point, to which you said, I was off track!
I don’t call them “true believers”. I call them what Christ Called them.... Converted IN Christ. <—- Precise.
 

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There was a book years ago called 'Alarm to the Unconverted' by Joseph Alleine....

Hadn’t heard of that book or author, however the title is spot on. Seemingly worth a look, see....for people who think ...
“I’m a Christian, I’m a Believer, I’m a true Christian”....is translated to mean....”I’m am Converted IN Christ”.

Glory to God,
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Uh huh....and THAT is my point, to which you said, I was off track!
I don’t call them “true believers”. I call them what Christ Called them.... Converted IN Christ. <—- Precise.
THEY aint converted in CHRIST UNLESS THEY ARE TRUE BELIEVERS .
Always remember that . ALWAYS . THERE is not true conversion , IF THE HEART IS NOT CONVERTED . ITS ALL A FARCE .
ON that i bank my friend . TIME to open bibles , and time to learn them for ourselves .
Most folks learn the bible through what men have taught them it means . NOT FOR THEMSELVES .
But i say , LEARN FOR YOU . Where is my sin when i say that all must continue in CHRIST TO THE END .
IS that a lie . AM I A LIAR . AM i a dragon and the enemy of the church and of GOD of CHRIST
because i say the same THING JESUS DID and the apostels did . NO , we have us a serious problem .
AND most folks ARE NOT SAVED PEROID . AND that is a fact . AND i dont say that
if one slipped or erred . I SAY IT against those who ARE FALSE . GOT NEWS the over whemling massive so high you cant count it
number of christains ARE NOT SAVED , they FOLLOW another jesus . NOW ITS TIME WE start remindingfolks
that the truly saved , the truly converted , the truly born again WOULD BE HEARERS and DOERS .
TIME we get as serious against sin as were them apostels . TIME TO stop overlooking errors and thinking its being LOVING
cause IT AINT . PEROID
 
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THEY aint converted in CHRIST UNLESS THEY ARE TRUE BELIEVERS .
Always remember that . ALWAYS . THERE is not true conversion , IF THE HEART IS NOT CONVERTED . ITS ALL A FARCE .
ON that i bank my friend . TIME to open bibles , and time to learn them for ourselves .
Most folks learn the bible through what men have taught them it means . NOT FOR THEMSELVES .
But i say , LEARN FOR YOU . Where is my sin when i say that all must continue in CHRIST TO THE END .
IS that a lie . AM I A LIAR . AM i a dragon and the enemy of the church and of GOD of CHRIST
because i say the same THING JESUS DID and the apostels did . NO , we have us a serious problem .
AND most folks ARE NOT SAVED PEROID . AND that is a fact . AND i dont say that
if one slipped or erred . I SAY IT against those who ARE FALSE . GOT NEWS the over whemling massive so high you cant count it
number of christains ARE NOT SAVED , they FOLLOW another jesus . NOW ITS TIME WE start remindingfolks
that the truly saved , the truly converted , the truly born again WOULD BE HEARERS and DOERS .
TIME we get as serious against sin as were them apostels . TIME TO stop overlooking errors and thinking its being LOVING
cause IT AINT . PEROID


Aware.
 
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Then its time to SHARE . As in it aint time to just have unity and hugs and overlook differences .
That was a nightmare sold to us under the guise of men to lead us to unite as one and in time with all religoins .
NOPE . EITHER we stick to what JESUS taught and the apostels , or the unity will lead us to none other than the beast and the dragon
who giveth the beast all power . AKA . ITS TIME TO START CORRECTING christains in error , in sin and not just overlooking
said sin .
 

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Not even believing?

I hold on to, what might slip away.
I hold on to a child’s hand, so the child does not slip away...
I hole on to a steering wheel, so the vehicle does not slip away...

Why do you think you are in danger of LOSING your faith, less you HOLD on to it?

HOW is it POSSIBLE for a man “IN” Christ to lose his Faith?

Is Gods POWER IN a man insufficient to KEEP that man IN FAITH?
 

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I hold on to, what might slip away.
I hold on to a child’s hand, so the child does not slip away...
I hole on to a steering wheel, so the vehicle does not slip away...

Why do you think you are in danger of LOSING your faith, less you HOLD on to it?

HOW is it POSSIBLE for a man “IN” Christ to lose his Faith?

Is Gods POWER IN a man insufficient to KEEP that man IN FAITH?
You hold onto the steering wheel WHY . SO the car dont go into the ditch .
HOLD ON TO THE THINGS OF THE LORD lest one finds themselves in the ditch . Be encouraged .
But to remind folks about continuing in CHRIST to CONTINUE in the faith , IS A WONDERFUL GOOD REMINDER .
 
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Then its time to SHARE . As in it aint time to just have unity and hugs and overlook differences .
That was a nightmare sold to us under the guise of men to lead us to unite as one and in time with all religoins .
NOPE . EITHER we stick to what JESUS taught and the apostels , or the unity will lead us to none other than the beast and the dragon
who giveth the beast all power . AKA . ITS TIME TO START CORRECTING christains in error , in sin and not just overlooking
said sin .

I have been sharing and am met with resistance.
I am no longer speaking to those who resist, but rather to those on the sidelines listening and observing.
 

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I hold on to, what might slip away.
I hold on to a child’s hand, so the child does not slip away...
I hole on to a steering wheel, so the vehicle does not slip away...

Why do you think you are in danger of LOSING your faith, less you HOLD on to it?

HOW is it POSSIBLE for a man “IN” Christ to lose his Faith?

Is Gods POWER IN a man insufficient to KEEP that man IN FAITH?
LEst at any time we let them SLIP . Even paul left us that reminder . Lest at any time we let them slip .
SEE they continously exhorted the church to REMAIN IN , TO CONTINUE in
lest at any time we let them SLIP . ITS not a sin to do the same today . Be encouraged .
 
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You hold onto the steering wheel WHY . SO the car dont go into the ditch .
HOLD ON TO THE THINGS OF THE LORD lest one finds themselves in the ditch . Be encouraged .
But to remind folks about continuing in CHRIST to CONTINUE in the faith , IS A WONDERFUL GOOD REMINDER .

And NO I do not hold on to my FAITH, as if it could slip away...
IT CAN NOT SLIP AWAY!
 

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I have been sharing and am met with resistance.
I am no longer speaking to those who resist, but rather to those on the sidelines listening and observing.
Dont forget to warn against the false love and unity farce . cause it is false . I Dont know if you realize this or not
but satan has captive many within the churches . HE too knows how to preach the word love , the word unity
the word tolerance , but beware the direction he leadeth with those words . Let us open bibles and FIGHT BACK .
 
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And NO I do not hold on to my FAITH, as if it could slip away...
IT CAN NOT SLIP AWAY!
Be looking diligently , lest any man FAIL of the grace of GOD , lest any root of bitterness does spring up and trouble YOU and thereby many be defiled .
ITS NOT A SIN to remind the church of this .
 

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I hold on to, what might slip away.
I hold on to a child’s hand, so the child does not slip away...
I hole on to a steering wheel, so the vehicle does not slip away...

Why do you think you are in danger of LOSING your faith, less you HOLD on to it?

HOW is it POSSIBLE for a man “IN” Christ to lose his Faith?

Is Gods POWER IN a man insufficient to KEEP that man IN FAITH?
What does it matter?
The Bible tells us to keep believing.
Would you confront the authors of the NT with these same questions?
 
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What does it matter?
The Bible tells us to keep believing.
Would you confront the authors of the NT with these same questions?
YES THEY WOULD . truth is they will say OH IT CANNOT APPLY TO THE BORN AGAIN .
Rather odd indeed . cause the last time i checked i do believe the entire new testament DOES APPLY TO THE BELIEVER .
YET when folks have come to learn the scrips through an acroynm and not through CHRIST , Expect nothing else .
THIS IS THE PROBLEM . Too many sat under men who twisted away every warning and reminder
by saying OH IT CANT MEAN THIS , IT has to rather MEAN THIS or it applies TO THIS TYPE of person or etc .
FOLKS got no idea they have been robbed of the very warnings that could only have helped them grow strong in the faith .
 

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LEst at any time we let them SLIP . Even paul left us that reminder . Lest at any time we let them slip .
SEE they continously exhorted the church to REMAIN IN , TO CONTINUE in
lest at any time we let them SLIP . ITS not a sin to do the same today . Be encouraged .

You are introducing another concept....THEM.
I was speaking of ....... MYSELF....my standing IN Christ, no need of warning, already SECURE IN Christ.

THEM? Sure there are plenty UNCONVERTED, who Believe AND are IN DANGER of falling away, and require WARNINGS and Reminders....Their SECURITY rests solely IN Conversion IN Christ.
 

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What does it matter?
The Bible tells us to keep believing.
Would you confront the authors of the NT with these same questions?
The very warnings and reminders that would have helped sharpen them up , that would have helped
them to become much more diligent in their walk . I SEE every WORD as only good for me , my walk and all .
THEY DONT . and that is so sad too .
 

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Dont forget to warn against the false love and unity farce . cause it is false . I Dont know if you realize this or not
but satan has captive many within the churches . HE too knows how to preach the word love , the word unity
the word tolerance , but beware the direction he leadeth with those words . Let us open bibles and FIGHT BACK .

Aware.
 
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You are introducing another concept....THEM.
I was speaking of ....... MYSELF....my standing IN Christ, no need of warning, already SECURE IN Christ.

THEM? Sure there are plenty UNCONVERTED, who Believe AND are IN DANGER of falling away, and require WARNINGS and Reminders....Their SECURITY rests solely IN Conversion IN Christ.
So peter was wrong then . Watch this .
Watch what PETER wrote to the church . I WILL NOT FAIL to put you in remembrance of these things
EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW THEM and be established in the truth . exactly . EXHORTING DAILY . we need the reminders , EVEN IF WE KNOW THEM .
DId you know , that by grace i have read the bible for hours daily , every day for over sixteen years .
NOW i aint saying that to boast in me , NOR DO i say it as if to mean DONT TEST ME .
HERE IS WHY I SAY IT .
EVEN WHEN BABES come and remind me of the very truth i have by grace known for years , ITS BRINGS ONLY JOY TO MY HEART .
LET us not be highminded . TRUTH should bring JOY TO US . EVEN IF WE already know it .
 

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You are introducing another concept....THEM.
I was speaking of ....... MYSELF....my standing IN Christ, no need of warning, already SECURE IN Christ.

THEM? Sure there are plenty UNCONVERTED, who Believe AND are IN DANGER of falling away, and require WARNINGS and Reminders....Their SECURITY rests solely IN Conversion IN Christ.
OUR security rests in HE ALONE . now keep that planted in your mind FIRM TO THE END .
And be not moved away from the HOPE of the gospel . Oh i just added another reminder from the bible
and be not MOVED AWAY FROM THE HOPE of the GOSPEL . if they reminded , WE REMIND .