John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

You see, you have to ignore the truth of what I have repeatedly stated. Just as, you claimed not to understand the question I asked when you first responded to me. You just robotically carry on. You don't understand scripture my friend. If you diod, you would not be so eager to condemn people for standing on the plain words of Christ. You have made a god out of head theology sadly

ALL my posts on here, are from the Bible, and those, like you, who are deniers of the FACT that Jesus Christ is Almighty God, have not refuted even ONE of these.

My OP here is clear, that deniers in the absolute Deity of Jesus Christ, will NOT be in heaven. Jesus says that, and it is final, and not up for discussion

 

[Daydreamer]

ALL my posts on here, are from the Bible, and those, like you, who are deniers of the FACT that Jesus Christ is Almighty God, have not refuted even ONE of these.

My OP here is clear, that deniers in the absolute Deity of Jesus Christ, will NOT be in heaven. Jesus says that, and it is final, and not up for discussion

I have previously discussed this subject at least as much as you have, and it is always the same. You people simply ignore what you are shown and carry on with your own misguided beliefs. Im afraid it is not enough simply to randomly quote the letter. The pharisees of Jesus day excelled at that, yet they did not understand the message did they.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I have previously discussed this subject at least as much as you have, and it is always the same. You people simply ignore what you are shown and carry on with your own misguided beliefs. Im afraid it is not enough simply to randomly quote the letter. The pharisees of Jesus day excelled at that, yet they did not understand the message did they.

here is another

The Jews Testify to The Deity of Jesus Christ

 

[Daydreamer]

here is another

The Jews Testify to The Deity of Jesus Christ

As you are ignoring what I write to you, I will do likewise

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

As you are ignoring what I write to you, I will do likewise

ONLY God the Holy Spirit can help you understand His Words in the Holy Bible, no human being can.

I have nothing further to say to you on this, as you cannot see the spiritual Truth on Jesus Christ

 

[Daydreamer]

ONLY God the Holy Spirit can help you understand His Words in the Holy Bible, no human being can.

Absolutely true, only the Holy Spirit can lead you into biblical understanding. And no one led of the Spirit into truth would hold to a belief you could be condemned for standing on the plain words of Christ when he walked this earth. In trinitarian terms, God would then be contradicting God, and the whole belief collapses

 

[mailmandan]

here is another

The Jews Testify to The Deity of Jesus Christ

Look at the reaction from the Jews in John 10:33 - The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." The Jews clearly understood Jesus’ statement as a claim to be God. In the following verses, Jesus did not correct the Jews by saying, "I did not claim to be God." That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30) Not merely one in unity, but in essence/nature.

For those who still point to one of their favorite verses, John 14:28, that Jesus Christ Himself says, “the Father is greater than I”, and, therefore shows that He is not God..

Here Jesus was speaking from His humanity, but when speaking from His Divinity, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30) The fact that Jesus was fully man and fully God seems to be a major source of confusion for anti-Trinitarians.

The Word was with God and the Word was God (vs. 1) and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us (vs. 14) is a crystal clear reference to Jesus. Verses 2-3 also confirm His Deity.

Other passages of Scripture where Jesus is unquestionably called God

Isaiah 7:14 - A Child Will Be Born And His Name Is Called": "Emanuel: God with us"
Isaiah 9:6 - A Child Will Be Born And His Name Is Called: "Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace
John 20:28 - Thomas said to Jesus, 'My Lord and My God'
Hebrews 1:8 - Father addresses the Son as God

 

[RLT63]

A trinitarian tactic is to always be on offense. They only acknowledge evidence in favor and cannot entertain evidence against. They tend to just ignore questions that reveal weakness in their doctrine.

That their desperation is increasing is shown in the fact that they make increasingly unsupportable statements, like this thread's title. There is not one verse where Jesus is called YHWH. So, why make the claim? To them, all evidence supports their doctrine, despite the fact that the trinity is not in the Bible. Jesus did not teach the trinity. He did not teach us to pray to a trinitarian God.

Revelation 1:17-18

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Look at the reaction from the Jews in John 10:33 - The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." The Jews clearly understood Jesus’ statement as a claim to be God. In the following verses, Jesus did not correct the Jews by saying, "I did not claim to be God." That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30) Not merely one in unity, but in essence/nature.

Here Jesus was speaking from His humanity, but when speaking from His Divinity, Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30) The fact that Jesus was fully man and fully God seems to be a major source of confusion for anti-Trinitarians.

The Word was with God and the Word was God (vs. 1) and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us (vs. 14) is a crystal clear reference to Jesus. Verses 2-3 also confirm His Deity.

Other passages of Scripture where Jesus is unquestionably called God

Isaiah 7:14 - A Child Will Be Born And His Name Is Called": "Emanuel: God with us"
Isaiah 9:6 - A Child Will Be Born And His Name Is Called: "Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace
John 20:28 - Thomas said to Jesus, 'My Lord and My God'
Hebrews 1:8 - Father addresses the Son as God

Excellent

 

[Wrangler]

Phil 2:5-8
"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, being in the form of God,

Proof text that Jesus is NOT God. If he were God, you would not be talking about forms. By contrast Jesus said he has a God who is the only true God. For some reason, this is not good enough for you.

 

[Wrangler]

Acvording to Scripture, all three Persons of the Trinity were involved in the resurrection of Jesus. Romans 10:9 says that God raised Jesus from the dead and Galatians 1:1 says that God the Father raised Jesus from the dead.

There is no trinity in the Bible; there is only God - who we relate to as Father.

God is spirit and he is holy. These are attributes of God, not a different person. Proof is God's spirit has no personal name.

There is not one verse in Scripture that claims Jesus raised himself from the dead.

Do you grasp how Rom 10:9, saying God raised Jesus from the dead necessarily excludes Jesus? Bob picked up George. Bob is the subject and George is the object. God is the subject and Jesus is the object, being acted upon.

 

[Wrangler]

Revelation 1:17-18

Rev 1:1 God, in his unitarian nature, gave Jesus the revelation.

 

[Wrangler]

see the FALSE statements that are made by those who reject the Biblical TRUTH on Jersus Christ.

All I need to see is Scripture, not trinitarians demanding verses say what they want. Just show the verse that plainly says Jesus is God. Just show the verse that plainly says Jesus raised himself from the dead.

You want find it because it's not true. Jesus is not God and did not raise himself from the dead. As @mailmandan pointed out, Rom 10:9 explicitly says God the Father raised Jesus from the dead.

 

[Daydreamer]

All I need to see is Scripture, not trinitarians demanding verses say what they want. Just show the verse that plainly says Jesus is God. Just show the verse that plainly says Jesus raised himself from the dead.

You want find it because it's not true. Jesus is not God and did not raise himself from the dead. As @mailmandan pointed out, Rom 10:9 explicitly says God the Father raised Jesus from the dead.

They only play by certain rules. Any point you bring up based on scripture is ignored, they are only willing to discuss what they want to discuss. Hence when I put up a post showing God, Christ, Paul and Peter all stated God was THE God of Christ, the following question pertaining to that was ignored. Even when you tell them there is no disagreement concerning the essence of Christ, only his title they still want to argue. For them, if you do not title Christ the one true God, only the Son of God you cannot be saved. Its the most ludicrous thing I have come accross on the internet, best described as making a god out of head theology. The plain words of the bible are ignored on the subject, on the altar of mans theological reasoning that is entitled to overturn them. I've never been to any church in decades which comes out with this nonsense, tends to be an internet thing. You'd be hard pressed to find many ministers that would stand in the pulpit and state. '''If you believe Christ is the Son of God but not the one true God you will be condemned to hell'''

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Just show the verse that plainly says Jesus raised himself from the dead.

John 2:19-22

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I WILL RAISE IT UP. The Jews therefore said, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou raise it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. When therefore He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He spake this; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said

Will you yet disbelieve that Jesus Christ is ALMIGHTY GOD?

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Jesus is not God

John 1:1, 18, is VERY CLEAR to those who have an honest mind!

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

By contrast Jesus said he has a God who is the only true God

yet another FALSE statement!

Jesus Christ The Only Wise God

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

They only play by certain rules. Any point you bring up based on scripture is ignored, they are only willing to discuss what they want to discuss. Hence when I put up a post showing God, Christ, Paul and Peter all stated God was THE God of Christ, the following question pertaining to that was ignored. Even when you tell them there is no disagreement concerning the essence of Christ, only his title they still want to argue. For them, if you do not title Christ the one true God, only the Son of God you cannot be saved. Its the most ludicrous thing I have come accross on the internet, best described as making a god out of head theology. The plain words of the bible are ignored on the subject, on the altar of mans theological reasoning that is entitled to overturn them. I've never been to any church in decades which comes out with this nonsense, tends to be an internet thing. You'd be hard pressed to find many ministers that would stand in the pulpit and state. '''If you believe Christ is the Son of God but not the one true God you will be condemned to hell'''

Your Throne O God

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Jesus is not God and did not raise himself from the dead

“Θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε ὁ μονογενὴς θεὸς ὁ ὢν είς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο” (John 1:18)

“God no one has seen at any time the Unique God Who is in the bosom of the Father He has revealed Him”

In this verse we have “the Word”, from John 1:1, 14, Who is called, “θεὸς”. Then, we also have “Θεὸν” used for “τοῦ πατρὸς” (the Father). As it says that one “God” was “into the bosom” of the other “God”, it is clear that BOTH cannot be IDENTICAL, as in the same “Individual”, or “Person”. There is a DISTINCTION here, between “Θεὸν” and “θεὸς”. This verse clearly destroys any teaching that says the God of the Holy Bible is “Unipersonal” (also known as Unitarianism), or that Jesus Christ alone is God (Jesus only heresy), or that the Father alone is God, or that The Father is in The Godhead, “Primary”, and Jesus Christ is “Secondary”, or “Inferior”. The Bible is very clear, that there is only ONE GOD.

On the subject about Jesus raising Himself from the dead, John 2:19-22, has Jesus' own words that He did

But you and those of your beliefs, will, like the Jews in Jesus' time on earth, will continue to oppose and reject the TRUTH as taught in the Bible!

 

[Daydreamer]

Your Throne O God

A person who is only able to quote choice verses, and ignore verses put before them is not someone who could be considered mature in knowledge on a subject.
BTW
Why didn't you quote the whole verse, and the next verse also? Hmmmm