Where did they invent that I AM is some name of God?

[marks]

I understand that some people who claim to be Christians get aggressive when they hear something that questions their traditional beliefs, but they should understand that I am very interested in helping other more reasonable and less violent people to realize what they need to know.

Who do you find unreasonable? To whom do you ascribe violence? It seems to me that you've come with a purpose, and you don't like answering questions whose answers may betray that purpose.

I'm apparently not the only one here who is seeing an agenda behind your words.

I'm curious, do you read ancient Hebrew?

Much love!

 

[marks]

The personal name that identifies God is not I AM, nor is it the Eternal. In the Bible He Himself says many times: MY NAME IS _____.

Of course, His Name is YHWH. And we know from Scripture that YHWH is also known as Jesus, following His incarnation.

Would you be interested in reviewing some of the Scriptures which assure us this is true?

Much love!

 

[farouk]

Revelation 1:4 KJV
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come;

Literally, the one who was (did exist), is (does exist), and is coming (back).

Much love!

@marks Good point; and the "I am" statements of the Lord Jesus are also very instructive and Christ-exalting. "I am Alpha and Omega" is a key statement in Revelation, which is repeated.

 

[ElieG12]

One thing Jesus never said, and it is "I am I AM". The I AM invention is supposed to be a name, the "I am" Jesus used was a personal pronoun (sometimes ommited) and a personal form of the verb TO BE ... nothing about a name I AM.

We find in the Scriptures many examples of others using the expresion "I am", like Eliah here:

(KJV 1601) 1 King 18:7 And as Obadiah was in the way, behold, Elijah met him: and he knew him, and fell on his face, and said, Art thou that my lord Elijah?
8 And he answered him, I am: go, tell thy lord, Behold, Elijah is here.

Nobody would say that Elijah is some I AM for using that expression, would they?

 

[ElieG12]

Of course, His Name is YHWH. And we know from Scripture that YHWH is also known as Jesus, following His incarnation.

Would you be interested in reviewing some of the Scriptures which assure us this is true?

Much love!

I do not agree ... and that is not the issue of this thread. If you open another topic about it, I'll probably share some ideas I came to with my Bible study ... and read what you have to say.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

You can't answer a question with a question.

Different references

 

[Wrangler]

Different references

Perhaps. Still, you provide a non-answer to my question.

 

[marks]

I do not agree ... and that is not the issue of this thread. If you open another topic about it, I'll probably share some ideas I came to with my Bible study ... and read what you have to say.

So, back to topic.

Do you read and translate ancient Hebrew? I'm wondering what your sources are, if it's the Hebrew manuscript, or if you would cite Hebrew scholars.

Of course, if your sole aim is to discredit "I AM THAT I AM, tell him I AM has sent you", that's one thing. But when you ask, what does the Bible say is the Name of God, I'll give you two, YHWH and Jesus.

That you disagree with the answer doesn't make it non-responsive.

Much love!

 

[ElieG12]

So, back to topic.

Do you read and translate ancient Hebrew? I'm wondering what your sources are, if it's the Hebrew manuscript, or if you would cite Hebrew scholars.

Much love!

Any Christian who wishes can invest some of his time, money, and some effort in learning Hebrew or Greek, comparing versions of the Bible, and looking up biblical matters on many serious related Internet websites.

What is not necessary to have access to accurate biblical information is a degree in theology, a doctorate, or some University degree in biblical matters. If there is interest and action, God blesses the efforts in many ways. Don't you agree?

 

[ElieG12]

So, back to topic.
(...) Of course, if your sole aim is to discredit "I AM THAT I AM, tell him I AM has sent you", that's one thing. But when you ask, what does the Bible say is the Name of God (...)

That you disagree with the answer doesn't make it non-responsive.

Much love!

I guess you do not accept that Ehyeh asher ehyeh does not mean I am who I am but I will become what I will become.

I guess you'll have to investigate the matter on your own. I already did it and I'm just sharing my conclusions.

 

[ElieG12]

(...) But when you ask, what does the Bible say is the Name of God, I'll give you two, YHWH and Jesus.

That you disagree with the answer doesn't make it non-responsive.

Much love!

About that part of your post, I already asked you to open your own topic about that ... I see you do not have many opened topics in the forum, but try to divert others' topics. That is not correct.

 

[marks]

About that part of your post, I already asked you to open your own topic about that ... I see you do not have many opened topics in the forum, but try to divert others' topics. That is not correct.

You asked the question.

Now you want to make this about me. True to form.

I've noticed that you are not answering my other questions. What should I make of that?

Are we having a serious discussion or not?

Much love!

 

[Pearl]

God has a real personal name to identify Himself in a personal way; it defines the total of his identity and uniqueness, as the personal name of a human being distinguishes him from the rest of human beings or from any living being that can be named.

My name refers to my identity and my person. For any legal matter I must be identified by my own exclusive personal name.

The personal name that identifies God is not I AM, nor is it the Eternal. In the Bible He Himself says many times: MY NAME IS _____. Can you complete the phrase? If you study the Bible, you may know what goes on that line.

 

[ElieG12]

@marks , I am not having any discussion with you, since from the very beginning you are getting personal in your posts on my topic. You accuse me of having an agenda, and now want to make me talk about what you want or about the "credentials" I need to talk about what I am talking about.

If you want to talk on this topic about what it was opened for, I can talk to you about it, otherwise NO.

Thanks for your time, and have a good one.

 

[marks]

I guess you do not accept that Ehyeh asher ehyeh does not mean I am who I am but I will become what I will become.

Not being an Hebrew scholar myself, I rely on other people's work. The thing is, it seems that you want to show that God's Name is not I AM, and that we cannot use this "I AM" to connect Jesus to being God, and in fact, when Jesus said "I am", he was using the personal pronoun and verb "to be".

So on the "I AM" vs. "I WILL BE" I don't have any input, not being a Hebrew Scholar. Regarding Jesus saying, "I am", yes, I agree with you, He was using the standard way of saying the personal pronoun and verb. Just like I would say, I am a print shop manager, or, I am typing.

I guess you'll have to investigate the matter on your own. I already did it and I'm just sharing my conclusions.

Noted. Thank you!

Much love!

 

[Pearl]

This list of names of God helps you experience how majestic God is and how deeply He loves you. Study the different names of God from Hebrew and Scripture and let His blessings fill your life, as you build a relationship with God, based on every aspect of His names. Don't forget to sign up, so you can experience the names of God in your own life as well!

NAMES OF GOD - Complete list from Hebrew and the Bible (godisreal.today)

The Ultimate Name of God: I AM
When Moses encountered God at the burning bush, he asked what His name was. God replied:

“I AM that I AM… You must say this to the Israelites, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” (Exodus 3:14)

God made it clear to Moses that He is eternally present. He has always been, He is now and He will always be. This name of God also speaks about His eternal presence with His people. He is present to help us, comfort us, guide us, and so much more… His presence never leaves you, and He will always be with you. That is the greatest comfort we can ever find, and we learn it from the very name of God: I AM.

When God revealed His name, He said: ‘I AM ALWAYS WITH YOU!’

Jesus Christ applied the name of God on Himself
Jesus Christ shocked the religious leaders of Israel, when He made a statement that was unheard of since the beginning of time. Jesus Christ declared that He Himself is God, when He said:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” (John 8:58)

Jesus claimed that He is the ‘I Am’, which is the very name of God!
When the Jewish religious leaders heard Jesus say this, they tried to kill Him. By applying the very name of God on Himself, Jesus Christ declared that He is God. To the Jews this was the highest form of blasphemy. In the book of Revelation Jesus reveals Himself to the apostle John with a name that is very similar to ‘I AM”:

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1:7-9).

Jesus Christ made it clear that He is the I AM, who appeared to Moses, He is the One who always existed and He is the one and true God who will always be.

 

[marks]

Any Christian who wishes can invest some of his time, money, and some effort in learning Hebrew or Greek, comparing versions of the Bible, and looking up biblical matters on many serious related Internet websites.

What is not necessary to have access to accurate biblical information is a degree in theology, a doctorate, or some University degree in biblical matters. If there is interest and action, God blesses the efforts in many ways. Don't you agree?

I'm just asking if you yourself happen to be able to read and translate Biblical Hebrew?

Or if you, as I do, rely on the scholarship of others?

Is there a reason you don't want to answer?

Much love!

 

[atpollard]

He didn't say: "My name is I AM", did he?

He pretty much did:

Exodus 3:

13 Then Moses asked God, “If I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name? ’ what should I tell them? ”

14 God replied to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.”​

• Moses: "If they ask 'What is your name?'"
• God: "Tell them I AM"

So you are being pedantic about the exact phrasing.
I AM is a name of God (one of many).

 

[marks]

@marks , I am not having any discussion with you, since from the very beginning you are getting personal in your posts on my topic. You accuse me of having an agenda, and now want to make me talk about what you want or about the "credentials" I need to talk about what I am talking about.

If you want to talk on this topic about what it was opened for, I can talk to you about it, otherwise NO.

Thanks for your time, and have a good one.

I understand. And I think if I were in your place I wouldn't want to answer my questions either. But that's just my speculation.

Much love!

 

[Pearl]