Is the holy spirit a living being Equal to God?

[Wrangler]

Lets look at the facts:
1) The Father has a name-YHWH(Jehovah) - The son has a name-Jesus--Holy spirit-0
2) The Father sits on a throne-- The son sits on a throne-- Holy spirit-0
3) The Father shares things with the son-Holy spirit-0
4) The Father teaches the son- Holy spirit-0
5)Many important passages mention God and the son-Holy spirit-maybe 2-- The important one = John 17:3--One must know the Father-THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one he sent forth-Jesus to get eternal life- Holy spirit-0

Another VERY important fact is that God - in his unitarian nature - gave Jesus all authority in heaven and Earth. Holy spirit-0

 

[Jack]

Where does the Bible say you can blasphemy against God?

Seriously? You've never heard of "blasphemy against God"?

 

[Wrangler]

Seriously? You've never heard of "blasphemy against God"?

I think you realize I mean in the context of it being OK to blashemy against God. Where is that in the Bible?

 

[Jack]

I think you realize I mean in the context of it being OK to blashemy against God. Where is that in the Bible?

Speaking against God of the Bible is blaspheming against God.

 

[Wrangler]

Speaking against God of the Bible is blaspheming against God.

And it is not OK to blaspheme God of the Bible, right? So, how come the verse in question does not mention it? Because it is the spirit of God that is being discussed - and contrasted - with that of God's servant, Jesus.

 

[Jack]

And it is not OK to blaspheme God of the Bible, right? So, how come the verse in question does not mention it?

It doesn't have to mention it. God's people know it's WRONG!

Because it is the spirit of God that is being discussed - and contrasted - with that of God's servant, Jesus.

Ah but, the Bible clearly declares Jesus to be God!

"a Child is born"
"a Son"
"Mighty God"

Isaiah 9:6 (NKJV)
6 For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

 

[Keiw]

Then why do I quote Jesus and you spew Kingdom Hall propaganda?

Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking-FIRST- the kingdom and his YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness- in every translation on earth.
How many days of your life has your heart instructed your mind to seek YHWH(Jehovahs)righteousness?

 

[Keiw]

Then why do I quote Jesus and you spew Kingdom Hall propaganda?

I share bible truth, but because a JW shows you, you throw it in the garbage.

 

[Keiw]

Huh even James Murdock English translation of the Peshitta?. I don't recall that being from the catholics.

There was no other translating of the NT left when protestants translated-1300,s, only catholicism translating.

 

[Keiw]

John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God". Thomas knew Jesus personally. You don't.

Thomas didnt know Jesus, he didnt believe it was Jesus.

 

[Keiw]

Can I ask you this question. For those living during the times of the horses what do you think Revelation 6 taught them? How did that chapter provide them encouragement and what lessons could they derive from receiving that prophecy?

First of all why horses?
What do the colours represent?
What time period could these horses be in given Revelation 1:1 "things that must come to pass"

Let's test your communities understanding of the detail of Revelation 6 and see how they stack up to sound Bible Study shall we?

F2F

The prophecy in Daniel points to 1914--the establishment of Gods kingdom in heaven. 2520 years from the removal of the last king of Jerusalem=607bce+ 2520= 1914-- And peace will be taken from the earth=ww1 proves the prophecy correct and fullfilled in 1914. Very few on earth saw that fullfillment. Only the religion that had Jesus saw it. The rest saw it but were in oblivion and knew 0 of its fullfillment because their teachers dont have Jesus.

 

[Keiw]

You know all things?

No one knows all things. It takes more than a lifetime to learn all the bible. I know alot, because i was taught by the teachers appointed by Jesus.

 

[Keiw]

Another VERY important fact is that God - in his unitarian nature - gave Jesus all authority in heaven and Earth. Holy spirit-0

Yes, good point. I tell others if Jesus were God he already would of had the authority, but it took one superior to him to give him that authority.

 

[Wrangler]

Yes, good point. I tell others if Jesus were God he already would of had the authority, but it took one superior to him to give him that authority.

Some invent this elaborate fiction that he had it, laid it down when he became man, and then took it back up again. Trouble is explicit Scripture says otherwise at 1 COR 15:23-28.

And of course, that is a total distraction from the point of this thread, which is the inequality of the 3 supposed equal persons.

To escape this inequality, mystical dualists resort to rejecting the mutual exclusivity principle of logic. They say just because Jesus had all doesn't mean the HS did not also not have all. Huh? Contradiction on top of contradiction.

 

[Keiw]

Some invent this elaborate fiction that he had it, laid it down when he became man, and then took it back up again. Trouble is explicit Scripture says otherwise at 1 COR 15:23-28.

And of course, that is a total distraction from the point of this thread, which is the inequality of the 3 supposed equal persons.

To escape this inequality, mystical dualists resort to rejecting the mutual exclusivity principle of logic. They say just because Jesus had all doesn't mean the HS did not also not have all. Huh? Contradiction on top of contradiction.

They must reason falsely to support their errors. It is sad.

 

[Wrangler]

They must reason falsely to support their errors. It is sad.

It's so funny that their mystical dualism does NOT apply for them to inferring verses to mean the trinity is invalid. Hypocrisy. Double Standards.

It is sad.

 

[Bob Estey]

No one knows all things. It takes more than a lifetime to learn all the bible. I know alot, because i was taught by the teachers appointed by Jesus.

Are you trying to learn about the Bible or are you trying to learn about God?

 

[BeyondET]

There was no other translating of the NT left when protestants translated-1300,s, only catholicism translating.

That was short lived in 1382 Wycliffe did a English translation of the Vulgate. He did not used what then was the only English version. And others followed even today bibles are being translated from the original Greek etc.

 

[Keiw]

Are you trying to learn about the Bible or are you trying to learn about God?

God inspired the bible.

 

[Keiw]

That was short lived in 1382 Wycliffe did a English translation of the Vulgate. He did not used what then was the only English version. And others followed even today bibles are being translated from the original Greek etc.

No originals are around. Catholicism translated the Vulgate and the Greek Lexicons.