Can a Person be Born Homosexual?

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Ronald Nolette

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why dont we read There are no…male and female in the kingdom as literally as we do the rest?
fwiw i suggest that our judgmental nature is being taken advantage of to hide a deeper truth @ “homosexual,” which is not even a very good translation of arsenokoitai imo, as much as i am not interested in being the apologist for gay ppl

personally i found “bed kitten” (literally) or something like maybe “hedonist,” although i didnt wanna influence anyone there
Sorry, but God said men having sex with men is abominable, same with women with women and humans with animals!
 

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Do you think Jesus Christ blood covers all sin or not?

Can anyone come to Christ Jesus?

Is Salvation available to all?

What is the focus should it always be on sin? OR should the life of one be of justice and righteousness in Christ name - even if they have their own decisions to make in life as far if they like guys or if the girls like girls?

Some give their selves over to a lifestyle without any concern for God, Some simply struggle with their selves because of possible past traumas, or whatever, some people from suffering from just leaving their own homes because of fear (some phobia).

All us are in need of the Lord, to be born again by the Spirit, this flesh will sin until it dies, and it up for individual to decide what they are going to do with the body, but to know that when they die their soul goes on.
 
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Sorry, but God said men having sex with men is abominable, same with women with women and humans with animals!
There are many sins described in the Bible. It's tragic that so many people are focusing in homosexuality while other sins -- adultery, murder, excessive drinking, etc. -- are not mentioned.

Also, we are told to love our neighbor. Judging the sins of others instead of loving them is contrary to God's will.
 
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Do you think Jesus Christ blood covers all sin or not?

Can anyone come to Christ Jesus?

Is Salvation available to all?

What is the focus should it always be on sin? OR should the life of one be of justice and righteousness in Christ name - even if they have their own decisions to make in life as far if they like guys or if the girls like girls?

Some give their selves over to a lifestyle without any concern for God, Some simply struggle with their selves because of possible past traumas, or whatever, some people from suffering from just leaving their own homes because of fear (some phobia).

All us are in need of the Lord, to be born again by the Spirit, this flesh will sin until it dies, and it up for individual to decide what they are going to do with the body, but to know that when they die their soul goes on.

But when one comes to Christ He has to learn to agree with god that what gods calls sin is sin! A homosexual can most certainly be saved! They also may never get over teh urgesd for same sex sexual activity, but they have to refrain just like unmarried people. If they sdin in their heart or action and acknowledge that before God- 1 John 1:9 comes into effect.

We have to agree with god (as we grow and learn) that what God calls sin- is sin and learn to acknowledge that and learn to refrain.
 

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There are many sins described in the Bible. It's tragic that so many people are focusing in homosexuality while other sins -- adultery, murder, excessive drinking, etc. -- are not mentioned.

Also, we are told to love our neighbor. Judging the sins of others instead of loving them is contrary to God's will.

We also forget that we have no business dealing with the sins of unsaved individsuals. They do not have the Holy Spirit so how can we hope them to live a godly life? We wqho have teh Spirit struglle with out issues-.

However if a brother or sister falls into sin (and I agree that adultery, murder bestiality rape etc. are all siin) we must in love seek to get them to acknowledge their fault before God for the purpose of reconciliation and not to brow beat them.
 
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I don’t really know any homosexuals anyway, @Ronald Nolette. All I’m saying is that I can’t control what they do, if a person is honestly seeking after God they will do, but who am I to judge anyone. If I have someone come to me with a problem and they wanna pray about that certain thing I have no problem in doing so, or saying that homosexuality is sin when teaching the Bible, but so are many other things mentioned in Galatians 5.

It is important though to grow in the knowledge of the Lord, I totally agree, thank you for the encouragement.
 

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well, you are reading a translation, right
so go ahead and make “homosexuals” into sinners for now, but understand that there might be more steps on that ladder ok

imo anyone who spends like 20 minutes in arsenokoitai would have a…diff perspective

which Bible says homosexuals are not sinners? List them here
 

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There are many sins described in the Bible. It's tragic that so many people are focusing in homosexuality while other sins -- adultery, murder, excessive drinking, etc. -- are not mentioned.

Also, we are told to love our neighbor. Judging the sins of others instead of loving them is contrary to God's will.

because HOMOSEXUALS shout the loudest and are proud of their lives, and consider that they are "normal"!
 

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Not only are infants born liars (Ps 58:3) but before they can be allowed into
the kingdom of God, they must first undergo the birth that Jesus spoke of in
John 3:3-8.


FAQ: What about infant death?

REPLY: The thing is: babies don't stay babies; the grow up to become sinful
adults in need of regeneration the same as everybody else.
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marks is right. All humans are descended from Adam and all have inherited his sin nature. That is what the New Testament clearly says, and why we all need the believe in the Savior 's paying the penalty for our sins.
well, you may believe that if you like, but i suggest that it is a cult of sol thing, so as long as you are in Esau you could just go do infant baptism i guess? But there is plenty of Scripture imo for “No understanding, no sin,” although i agree that all inherit, sure
 
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Homosexuality is one of many sins described in the Bible. The penalty for any sin is death.

However, we are instructed to love our neighbor as ourself, not condemn them.
all i can say is that there is more to that, that would naturally be hidden from the wise in their own eyes
I have shown in the OP, which is from the Word of Almighty God, that homosexuality is SIN. Period!
ha so dont be a homo then? I mean, really, what are you doing here if not judging others?
What you have maybe really shown is that you are not even interested in the real message, which is and i guess will remain hidden from you, as long as you seek proof and facts, and talk like “i have proven this, i have shown that, its like this, its like that,” etc, which i hope you might accept in the spirit intended.

Word is just…so much more than the Bible, as might even be read in the Bible, and fwiw this is a big giveaway as to your present perspectiv, by which i do not mean “bad” ok. peace
 

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I have shown in the OP, which is from the Word of Almighty God, that
homosexuality is SIN. Period!

So is dishonesty; which I will now show you from the Word of Almighty God

Lev 19:11 . . You shall not deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

Rev 21:27 . . No one who practices lying, shall ever come into the holy
city, the new Jerusalem.

Same-sex lovers represent an insignificant percentage of the Earth's
population. There are far more folks on Earth practicing dissembling; which
can be defined as concealing your true feelings by deliberately giving people
the impression that you feel some other way. Now that you know about
dissembling, watch how often you do it in the weeks to come. I think you'll
be surprised how often you've been practicing dissembling without thinking
because it's so natural.


Here's some additional common forms of dishonesty.

Whoppers
White lies
Deception
Side-stepping
Denial
Guile
Half truths
Making promises with no intention of keeping them
Slander
Pretense
Feigning innocence
Falsifying information
Putting up a front
Misleading information
Rationalizing
Embellishing
Deliberate omission of pertinent facts
Hyperbole
Semantic double speak
Insincerity
Sophistry
Spinning
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Sorry, but God said men having sex with men is abominable, same with women with women and humans with animals!
yes, but wisdom is hidden from the wise in their own eyes, riht? And you are cock-sure of your position there, as may even be read, are you not? Therefore you might at least contemplate the possibility that the Bible is speaking on another level, and that “man, woman, animals, sex” are being used as allegory, maybe? And bam if the new perspective does not fit you would toss it, but trust me it is so revealing you will not.

Or i mean keep bashing gays if you like, but understand that that is how they got legal “marriage,” by being oppressed; and even on a personal level, that can only backfire on you imo
 

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which Bible says homosexuals are not sinners? List them here
i guess all the english ones do? But the Bible wasnt written in english, and it was translated by other believers, right? So, wadr i doubt you are currently interested, but you might copy/search “paul coined the term arsenokoitai,” or even look up arsenokoitai in a lexicon and follow the links, and i hope you understand that i am not disagreeing that homosexuals are sinners, just like me lol. meh.

when logicians deny feelings emotions spirit, it is just as bad a train wreck as emos denying logic, and literal “homosexuality” will fade into insignificanc, is all im saying might be possible ok. Bam stick with “homos bad” for as long as that seems right to you imo, and may it serve you well
 

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because HOMOSEXUALS shout the loudest and are proud of their lives, and consider that they are "normal"!
ha well when they were not even allowed to visit their partners in hospital, and were oppressed a million other ways by you, all you needed to do was look up and read the writing on the wall?