DANIEL THE PROPHET TOLD US EXACTLY WHEN THE RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE

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DANIEL THE PROPHET IS ONE OF THE MANY PROPHETS THAT KNEW WHEN THE RAPTURE WOULD TAKE PLACE

SEE IF YOU AGREE,

Like I have said, the Father has shown me many of the prophets in the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place and the prophet Daniel is just one of them.

Again, all the prophets in the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place have one thing in common, they all got the same timeline for the Rapture as Jesus gave us in my message on Matthew 24 and Psalm 110:3. Watch for both messages right here.

Three times Daniel the prophet told us exactly when the Rapture will take place but you have to be like a spiritual detective and dig around a little because Daniel never uses our modern word Rapture when he describes the Rapture.

The major clue that indicates that Daniel knew when the Rapture will take place is when he said, "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Again, notice that Daniel never mentions the word Rapture but he states that Multitudes who sleep will awake to everlasting life, meaning of course he is pinpointing when the Resurrection will take place. Find when the First Resurrection takes place and you get the Rapture too because these two events take place back to back, you know, "The dead in Christ will rise first. Then, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

DANIEL 12 AND REVELATION 12 ARE BEST FRIENDS BECAUSE Daniel 12 tells us that Multitudes who sleep will awake to everlasting life and Revelation 12 tells us when this event will take place.

NOW LET'S BREAK DOWN DOWN THESE TWO CHAPTERS TO DISCOVER WHEN THE RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE

LET'S TALK ABOUT DANIEL 12 FIRST AND THEN LET'S COMPARE WHAT WE DISCOVER IN REVELATION 12.
Daniel 12:1
V: 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

Daniel 12:2a
V:2 a Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life.

All we have to do to discover when the Rapture will take place according to the prophet Daniel is find exactly when Michael the great Prince stands up to protect God's people Israel. Find when Michael arises and you get Daniel's timeline for the First Resurrection. Find the First Resurrection and we get the timeline for the Rapture too because once again these two events take place back to back.

NOW LET US COMPARE DANIEL 12 WITH REVELATION 12 AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE TIME WHEN MICHAEL THE GREAT PRINCE WILL ARISE TO PROTECT GOD'S PEOPLE ISRAEL.

Let's now go to Revelation 12, which is another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation to have another look at what the very day of the Rapture will look like.

REVELATION 12:7-8
V: 7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

There is what Daniel was referring to when He said Michael will stand up or arise to protect Israel and look this event is once again taking place at the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation.

NOW LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IT IS TIME FOR AT THE EXACT HALFWAY POINT IN THE SEVEN-YEAR TRIBULATION

REVELATION 12:13-14
V:13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

Times, times, and a half a time is the last three and a half years of the Tribulation which according to Revelation 11:18 is known as the Wrath of God.

REVELATION 11:18
V:18 The world was angry and your Wrath has come.

The Wrath of God is also known throughout the bible as the Day of the Lord or when the Wrath of God will commence.

Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 12 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A-We know that Revelation 12 is a description of another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because it describes that this is the time when salvation and the power of the Kingdom of our God and the authority of the Messiah has come.

REVELATION 12:10
V:10 “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah."

Now if we go to Revelation 11 we find the very same events taking place where Jesus is once again taking His authority and the Kingdom with power and it also states that this is the time when salvation will take place.

REVELATION 11
The Seventh Trumpet
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

Now, let's read verse 17-18 that reveals that this is the time when the Rapture will take place.

REVELATION 11:17-18
V:17 “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18 The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—

Q-How can God reward all of His people unless all of His people are now in Heaven at the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

LET'S DO THIS ONE LAST TIME

Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 11 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A- We know that Revelation 11 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because God's Two Witnesses are appointed by God to prophecy for three and a half years. They begin their ministry at the beginning of the seven-year Tribulation and their ministry ends when they are killed by the beast that comes up from the abyss and they raise back to life at Revelation 11:11, which is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation and when they rise back to life so too will all who have died in Christ, this is the Resurrection taking place and then the Rapture will follow immediately.

There is proof that the prophet Daniel knew when the Rapture will take place.

LET US GIVE THANKS FOR THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR FATHER HAS TAUGHT US AND THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE


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prolly not, ok? i mean at least leave a little room for uncertainty, maybe?
how many rapture threads do you need, anyway
I do leave room for people who may not be convinced that what I say is true by telling them to see if they agree.

There many prophets in the bible who told us when the Rapture will take place and they all have one thing in common, they all gave the same timeline for the Rapture as Jesus did in Matthew 24 and Psalm 110:3.

Because the timeline for the Rapture is found throughout the entire bible we have to break it down into bit-size pieces so that it's clear.
This is exactly the way God has planned it. He didn't put the timeline for the Rapture all in one book, He revealed it through many prophets so that we would have rock-solid evidence and so that it would be clear. If I revealed all of the prophets who told us the timeline for the Rapture in one thread one after another, it would only produce confusion because this subject needs to be broken down into small pieces so that it is understood just like it is presented in many books in the bible.

I started to present all of the prophets who knew the timeline for the Rapture in one post but all I got were people who disagreed without leaving a meaningful comment. And before I knew it the comments were all over the place with no focus on any one message.

If you guys really want to know when the Rapture will take place, start reading my posts. It's only when you add all my posts together will you see how real this is. Meaning how is it possible that every prophet I present from the bible knew when the Rapture will take place, How is it possible that they all got the exact same timeline for when the Rapture will take place?

I even show that Jesus knew when the Rapture will take place and I have two other messages where Jesus Himself tells us when the Rapture will take place and like I have said it's always the same exact timeline.

The way I see it, some rules are meant to be broken and some are meant to be bent.

If you love God let this play out because when I am finished all will know that they know when the Rapture will take place.

If the owner of this site doesn't like what I am revealing from the Father I will leave right away.

Just hang in there because the evidence is all in the bible and it's over whelming to put in just one post.

Eliyahoo :)
 

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I do leave room for people who may not be convinced that what I say is true by telling them to see if they agree.
well no offense but that is hilarious, and you are in bad shape imo
fwiw i was pretty convinced of "rapture" like about...50 years ago?
do yourself a favor imo, and go find the real rapture, in Songs
 
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DANIEL THE PROPHET IS ONE OF THE MANY PROPHETS THAT KNEW WHEN THE RAPTURE WOULD TAKE PLACE

SEE IF YOU AGREE,

Like I have said, the Father has shown me many of the prophets in the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place and the prophet Daniel is just one of them.

Again, all the prophets in the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place have one thing in common, they all got the same timeline for the Rapture as Jesus gave us in my message on Matthew 24 and Psalm 110:3. Watch for both messages right here.

Three times Daniel the prophet told us exactly when the Rapture will take place but you have to be like a spiritual detective and dig around a little because Daniel never uses our modern word Rapture when he describes the Rapture.

The major clue that indicates that Daniel knew when the Rapture will take place is when he said, "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Again, notice that Daniel never mentions the word Rapture but he states that Multitudes who sleep will awake to everlasting life, meaning of course he is pinpointing when the First Resurrection will take place. Find when the First Resurrection takes place and you get the Rapture too because these two events take place back to back, you know, "The dead in Christ will rise first. Then, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

DANIEL 12 AND REVELATION 12 ARE BEST FRIENDS BECAUSE Daniel 12 tells us that Multitudes who sleep will awake to everlasting life and Revelation 12 tells us when this event will take place.

NOW LET'S BREAK DOWN DOWN THESE TWO CHAPTERS TO DISCOVER WHEN THE RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE

LET'S TALK ABOUT DANIEL 12 FIRST AND THEN LET'S COMPARE WHAT WE DISCOVER IN REVELATION 12.
Daniel 12:1
V: 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

Daniel 12:2a
V:2 a Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life.

All we have to do to discover when the Rapture will take place according to the prophet Daniel is find exactly when Michael the great Prince stands up to protect God's people Israel. Find when Michael arises and you get Daniel's timeline for the First Resurrection. Find the First Resurrection and we get the timeline for the Rapture too because once again these two events take place back to back.

NOW LET US COMPARE DANIEL 12 WITH REVELATION 12 AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE TIME WHEN MICHAEL THE GREAT PRINCE WILL ARISE TO PROTECT GOD'S PEOPLE ISRAEL.

Let's now go to Revelation 12, which is another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation to have another look at what the very day of the Rapture will look like.

REVELATION 12:7-8
V: 7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

There is what Daniel was referring to when He said Michael will stand up or arise to protect Israel and look this event is once again taking place at the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation.

NOW LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IT IS TIME FOR AT THE EXACT HALFWAY POINT IN THE SEVEN-YEAR TRIBULATION

REVELATION 12:13-14
V:13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

Times, times, and a half a time is the last three and a half years of the Tribulation which according to Revelation 11:18 is known as the Wrath of God.

REVELATION 11:18
V:18 The world was angry and your Wrath has come.

The Wrath of God is also known throughout the bible as the Day of the Lord or when the Wrath of God will commence.

Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 12 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A-We know that Revelation 12 is a description of another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because it describes that this is the time when salvation and the power of the Kingdom of our God and the authority of the Messiah has come.

REVELATION 12:10
V:10 “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah."

Now if we go to Revelation 11 we find the very same events taking place where Jesus is once again taking His authority and the Kingdom with power and it also states that this is the time when salvation will take place.

REVELATION 11
The Seventh Trumpet
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

Now, let's read verse 17-18 that reveals that this is the time when the Rapture will take place.

REVELATION 11:17-18
V:17 “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18 The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—

Q-How can God reward all of His people unless all of His people are now in Heaven at the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

LET'S DO THIS ONE LAST TIME

Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 11 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A- We know that Revelation 11 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because God's Two Witnesses are appointed by God to prophecy for three and a half years. They begin their ministry at the beginning of the seven-year Tribulation and their ministry ends when they are killed by the beast that comes up from the abyss and they raise back to life at Revelation 11:11, which is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation and when they rise back to life so too will all who have died in Christ, this is the First Resurrection taking place and then the Rapture will follow immediately.

There is proof that the prophet Daniel knew when the Rapture will take place.

LET US GIVE THANKS FOR THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR FATHER HAS TAUGHT US AND THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE


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Daniel's 70 weeks are 490 future days

There will be a future 3.5 year tribulation, the (two witnesses) 1260 days, and (The Beast) 42 months, these are "Parallel" time frames in the same events

Daniel 12:1-2 takes place at the time of Great Tribulation, Resurrection, Final Judgement, (The End)
 

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Daniel's 70 weeks are 490 future days

There will be a future 3.5 year tribulation, the (two witnesses) 1260 days, and (The Beast) 42 months, these are "Parallel" time frames in the same events

Daniel 12:1-2 takes place at the time of Great Tribulation, Resurrection, Final Judgement, (The End)
Unbelievrs ask
2 Peter 3:4-6 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
 

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Daniel's 70 weeks are 490 future days

There will be a future 3.5 year tribulation, the (two witnesses) 1260 days, and (The Beast) 42 months, these are "Parallel" time frames in the same events

Daniel 12:1-2 takes place at the time of Great Tribulation, Resurrection, Final Judgement, (The End)



In Revelation 12 Satan and all of his fallen angels are cast to the earth but in Rev 20 Satan is locked away for a thousand years. Two different timelines because they are two different events.

REVELATION 12
9 And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.



REVELATION 20
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,



In my opinion,

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In Revelation 12 Satan and all of his fallen angels are cast to the earth but in Rev 20 Satan is locked away for a thousand years. Two different timelines because they are two different events.

REVELATION 12
9 And the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.



REVELATION 20
Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,



In my opinion,

Eliyahoo
Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 

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Daniel's 70 weeks are 490 future days

There will be a future 3.5 year tribulation, the (two witnesses) 1260 days, and (The Beast) 42 months, these are "Parallel" time frames in the same events

Daniel 12:1-2 takes place at the time of Great Tribulation, Resurrection, Final Judgement, (The End)

Hello Truth 7t7
According to Paul the Rapture takes place when AC proclaims himself to be God and Daniel tells us when AC will go into the Temple and proclaim himself as God.

2 Thessalonians 2
The Man of Lawlessness
2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him,
we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

First thing, notice how Paul acquaints the Day of the Lord with our being gathered or Raptured?

Most believe the Day of the Lord starts at the end of the Tribulation but that's not true, the Day of the Lord has a beginning and an end. The Day of the Lord is known throughout the bible as the Day of God's Wrath. So if we can discover when the Day of God's Wrath commences we get the start of the Day of the Lord too because they are one in the same.

Revelation 11:18 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation and look at what event is taking place.

REVELATION 11:18
V:18 THE WORLD WAS ANGRY AND YOUR WRATH HAS COME.

Verse 3 Paul tells us that there will be a time of rebellion when AC is revealed. This rebellion is Israel rejecting AC as God when he proclaims himself to be God.
3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
Let's do this one more time for confirmation of when the Rapture will take place according to Paul.

1 Corinthians 5:5
New International Version
hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

There is our proof that the Rapture will take place on the same day of when God's Wrath will commence.

But let's look at another bible version of 1 Corinthians 5:5 to offer evidence once again that Paul is telling us that the Rapture will take place on the Day of the Lord or on the day Jesus will return at the Rapture.

New Living Translation
Then you must throw this man out and hand him over to Satan so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be saved on the day the Lord returns.

Most won't be convinced just yet because we have been taught that the Resurrection of the Dead in Christ will take place at the end of the seven-year Tribulation.

Before I show you the timeline for when AC will sit in the Temple and proclaim himself as God, I want you to think about what I am about to say. If like many believe that the Resurrection takes place at the end of the Tribulation then that also means the Rapture will take place at the end of the Tribulation. And if you read the book of Revelation there will be hardly anyone left alive to Rapture and negating the fact that the church is not destined for God's Wrath, which is the entire last half of the seven-year Tribulation.

HERE IS DANIEL'S TIMELINE FOR WHEN AC WILL ENTER THE TEMPLE

Again, Paul says the time to watch for our being gathered to the Lord or when the Rapture will take place is when we see AC sitting in the Temple proclaiming himself as God.

And know Daniels tells us exactly when AC will do this.

DANIEL 9
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

There it is the timeline for when AC will set himself up in the Temple and Paul states that this will be the time when we will be gathered to meet the Lord at the Rapture.

CONCLUSION

According to Paul, the Rapture will take place on the Day of the Lord and we have discovered that the Day of the Lord is also known as the Day of God's Wrath and that the Wrath of God has a beginning and that takes place on the very same timeline that Daniel gave us, in the middle of the seven weeks or at the halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation.

In my opinion,

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Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

In Revelation 12 Satan and all of his fallen angels are cast to the earth which is a future event so no I don't agree that Satan is already bound.

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In Revelation 12 Satan and all of his fallen angels are cast to the earth which is a future event so no I don't agree that Satan is already bound.

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Satan was on this earth during Jobs temptation, and the Lord's temptation for 40 days/nights in the wilderness, Satan being cast out of heaven took place "Long Ago"
 

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Satan was on this earth during Jobs temptation, and the Lord's temptation for 40 days/nights in the wilderness, Satan being cast out of heaven took place "Long Ago"

All we have to do to discover when Satan will be cast out of the second heaven is to find out what point in the Tribulation Rev 12 takes place.
Like I have pointed out in my message Rev 12 takes place at the exact halfway point in the Tribulation so again, no Satan is still ruling this planet as the bible calls him, the God of this world.

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Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 12 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A-We know that Revelation 12 is a description of another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because it describes that this is the time when salvation and the power of the Kingdom of our God and the authority of the Messiah has come.
You are on a run of speculations and conjecture, but rather than taking it all on at once and clouding the overall... When are you saying the power of the Kingdom of our God and the authority of the Messiah has come?

It would appear that you believe that it is in the middle of a future seven year period. Is that what you believe? Because that is wrong according to the scriptures, as Jesus himself gave the time, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth" (2,000+ years ago).

In which case you will want to adjust your understanding of "a time, times, and half a time" to mean "all of time."
 

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DANIEL THE PROPHET IS ONE OF THE MANY PROPHETS THAT KNEW WHEN THE RAPTURE WOULD TAKE PLACE

SEE IF YOU AGREE,

Like I have said, the Father has shown me many of the prophets in the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place and the prophet Daniel is just one of them.

Again, all the prophets in the bible that knew when the Rapture will take place have one thing in common, they all got the same timeline for the Rapture as Jesus gave us in my message on Matthew 24 and Psalm 110:3. Watch for both messages right here.

Three times Daniel the prophet told us exactly when the Rapture will take place but you have to be like a spiritual detective and dig around a little because Daniel never uses our modern word Rapture when he describes the Rapture.

The major clue that indicates that Daniel knew when the Rapture will take place is when he said, "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

Again, notice that Daniel never mentions the word Rapture but he states that Multitudes who sleep will awake to everlasting life, meaning of course he is pinpointing when the Resurrection will take place. Find when the First Resurrection takes place and you get the Rapture too because these two events take place back to back, you know, "The dead in Christ will rise first. Then, we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

DANIEL 12 AND REVELATION 12 ARE BEST FRIENDS BECAUSE Daniel 12 tells us that Multitudes who sleep will awake to everlasting life and Revelation 12 tells us when this event will take place.

NOW LET'S BREAK DOWN DOWN THESE TWO CHAPTERS TO DISCOVER WHEN THE RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE

LET'S TALK ABOUT DANIEL 12 FIRST AND THEN LET'S COMPARE WHAT WE DISCOVER IN REVELATION 12.
Daniel 12:1
V: 1 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.

Daniel 12:2a
V:2 a Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life.

All we have to do to discover when the Rapture will take place according to the prophet Daniel is find exactly when Michael the great Prince stands up to protect God's people Israel. Find when Michael arises and you get Daniel's timeline for the First Resurrection. Find the First Resurrection and we get the timeline for the Rapture too because once again these two events take place back to back.

NOW LET US COMPARE DANIEL 12 WITH REVELATION 12 AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE TIME WHEN MICHAEL THE GREAT PRINCE WILL ARISE TO PROTECT GOD'S PEOPLE ISRAEL.

Let's now go to Revelation 12, which is another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation to have another look at what the very day of the Rapture will look like.

REVELATION 12:7-8
V: 7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

There is what Daniel was referring to when He said Michael will stand up or arise to protect Israel and look this event is once again taking place at the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation.

NOW LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IT IS TIME FOR AT THE EXACT HALFWAY POINT IN THE SEVEN-YEAR TRIBULATION

REVELATION 12:13-14
V:13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach.

Times, times, and a half a time is the last three and a half years of the Tribulation which according to Revelation 11:18 is known as the Wrath of God.

REVELATION 11:18
V:18 The world was angry and your Wrath has come.

The Wrath of God is also known throughout the bible as the Day of the Lord or when the Wrath of God will commence.

Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 12 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A-We know that Revelation 12 is a description of another layer of the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because it describes that this is the time when salvation and the power of the Kingdom of our God and the authority of the Messiah has come.

REVELATION 12:10
V:10 “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah."

Now if we go to Revelation 11 we find the very same events taking place where Jesus is once again taking His authority and the Kingdom with power and it also states that this is the time when salvation will take place.

REVELATION 11
The Seventh Trumpet
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

Now, let's read verse 17-18 that reveals that this is the time when the Rapture will take place.

REVELATION 11:17-18
V:17 “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18 The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small—

Q-How can God reward all of His people unless all of His people are now in Heaven at the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

LET'S DO THIS ONE LAST TIME

Q- How do we know for certain that Revelation 11 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation?

A- We know that Revelation 11 is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation because God's Two Witnesses are appointed by God to prophecy for three and a half years. They begin their ministry at the beginning of the seven-year Tribulation and their ministry ends when they are killed by the beast that comes up from the abyss and they raise back to life at Revelation 11:11, which is the exact halfway point in the seven-year Tribulation and when they rise back to life so too will all who have died in Christ, this is the Resurrection taking place and then the Rapture will follow immediately.

There is proof that the prophet Daniel knew when the Rapture will take place.

LET US GIVE THANKS FOR THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR FATHER HAS TAUGHT US AND THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE


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I've rhought I was sure about Rev. 11:15 as the time of the Rapture. I'm not sure anymore.

According to another member (who does not claim to be a prophet) but has an interesting prediction (which contains some flaws in his timeline), He says that the Two Witnesses will appear on Nisan 15 (April 6, 2023)
I am not saying this guys prediction will come true, but who knows? I did find a lot of flaws in an earlier thread of his that I posted.

Oh btw, I thought the GT was only 3 1/2 years. I am not an adherent to this 70th Week scenario. So the Two Witnesses would bring famine and supernatural events during the reign of Antichrist and then Jesus comes. 1260 days / 42 months / 3 1/2 years. At this time of the 7th trumpet, the 7 Bowls of wrath are released. Now I doubt this period of time is an additional 3 1/2 years - that's too long. It is likely over quickly, 40 days or so? This brings up the 1290 mentioned and 1335 mentioned. So there is a period of time from 1260 -1335 (the end of the GT) = 75 days. During this time the battle of Armegeddon occurs and it is over quickly. Do you think God really needs 3 1/2 years of wrath towards the ungodly to suffer and then they die anyways. No, I think like with the Flood, those people lived days, maybe weeks before they died. I could see them climbing mountains until they could not. some may have survived 40 days, but then that was it.
 
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All we have to do to discover when Satan will be cast out of the second heaven is to find out what point in the Tribulation Rev 12 takes place.
Like I have pointed out in my message Rev 12 takes place at the exact halfway point in the Tribulation so again, no Satan is still ruling this planet as the bible calls him, the God of this world.

In my opinion
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I Disagree, as my responses have shown, Satan was cast out of heaven to earth long ago, Revelation 12 is a "Recap" of events that have already taken place

(Verse 4) Satan and 1/3 of the angels cast to earth, and Satan through King Herod tried to devour Jesus when he was born

(Verse 5) Jesus was born in earth, he then ascended to God's throne

A Recap Of Evebts, That Took Place Long Ago

Revelation 12:1-4KJV
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
 
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QUOTING TRUTH,

"I Disagree, as my responses have shown, Satan was cast out of heaven to earth long ago, Revelation 12 is a "Recap" of events that have already taken place.

Please prove to me that what you say is true that Satan was cast out of the Second Heaven long ago.

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You are on a run of speculations and conjecture, but rather than taking it all on at once and clouding the overall... When are you saying the power of the Kingdom of our God and the authority of the Messiah has come?

It would appear that you believe that it is in the middle of a future seven year period. Is that what you believe? Because that is wrong according to the scriptures, as Jesus himself gave the time, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth" (2,000+ years ago).

In which case you will want to adjust your understanding of "a time, times, and half a time" to mean "all of time."

Hi Scott,
Q- How do you reconcile what you have said with the fact that Jesus said in Revelation 11:15 which is the half-way point in the Tribulation the following?

The Seventh Trumpet
15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”

16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying:

“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign.

Eliyahoo
 

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I Disagree, as my responses have shown, Satan was cast out of heaven to earth long ago, Revelation 12 is a "Recap" of events that have already taken place
Rev. 12 is historical, but it is the "sign in the heavens" that the events of history point to. A constellation in the heavens (often used for signs according to Genesis 1:14), is a "woman clothed with the sun with the moon at her feet and a garland of 12 stars around her head". That would be the constellations Virgo with Leo as well as Mars and Venus with Jupiter, ( the king planet) entering into the womb of Virgo (and circling around for 9 months), then exiting as if out of her womb. This historical event of the woman ( symbolic for Israel), giving birth to Jesus was WRITTEN in the heavenly constellations. It appeared AT JESUS BIRTH ON SEPT. 11, 3 BC AND RECENTLY ON SEPT. 23, 2017. Virgo appears every year, but not exactly as described in Rev. 12, only a handful of times in history.
And btw, Rev. 1-5 was also historical, but not 6-22 (even though history is referenced).
* Also a side note. Likely the star that the Magi followed that rested over Bethlehem was not a star, but the King planet Jupiter, that entered into the womb of Virgo and then existed! You can't make this stuff up.
 
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Rev. 12 is historical, but it is the "sign in the heavens" that the events of history point to. A constellation in the heavens (often used for signs according to Genesis 1:14), is a "woman clothed with the sun with the moon at her feet and a garland of 12 stars around her head". That would be the constellations Virgo with Leo as well as Mars and Venus with Jupiter, ( the king planet) entering into the womb of Virgo (and circling around for 9 months), then exiting as if out of her womb. This historical event of the woman ( symbolic for Israel), giving birth to Jesus was WRITTEN in the heavenly constellations. It appeared AT JESUS BIRTH ON SEPT. 11, 3 BC AND RECENTLY ON SEPT. 23, 2017. Virgo appears every year, but not exactly as described in Rev. 12, only a handful of times in history.
And btw, Rev. 1-5 was also historical, but not 6-22 (even though history is referenced).
* Also a side note. Likely the star that the Magi followed that rested over Bethlehem was not a star, but the King planet Jupiter, that entered into the womb of Virgo and then existed! You can't make this stuff up.
Isaiah 14:12-14KJV
12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.