St. SteVen
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I take that as the wailing of repentance. (like when we got "saved" - LOL)MANY will wail for they denied HIM .
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I take that as the wailing of repentance. (like when we got "saved" - LOL)MANY will wail for they denied HIM .
Yet not after the ressurection . Peter would years later go to his own death not denying the LORD .And Peter denied the Lord three times, and yet Christ still loved him. Many will deny him, over and over again, but eventually, they will believe in Jesus and be saved permanently.
Matthew 26:74 Then he began to curse and swear, saying, “I do not know the Man!” Immediately a rooster crowed. And Peter remembered the word of Jesus who had said to him, “Before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.” So he went out and wept bitterly.
Those wailing on the day of the LORD sure wont be JOY FILLED . You continue to MOCK GOD and the true gospelI take that as the wailing of repentance. (like when we got "saved" - LOL)
I agree with that point.That very day they died spiritually and emotionally....it was evidenced in their hiding and blaming. Harmony was disrupted and the process of diminishment set in motion. Down the track their bodies also succumbed.
That's a GREAT question. Thanks.i wonder when salvation got conflated with going to heaven after death?
https://soundcloud.com/user-426611522%2Flifes-pretty-good-without-youThose wailing on the day of the LORD sure wont be JOY FILLED . You continue to MOCK GOD and the true gospel
at your own expense .
Besides God being a loving Father, He is also Just, Jealous, NEVER changing, does what He say's and say's what He means. All powerful, all knowing, present in all places. He does, has and will again, expend His wrath on the un Godly, the wicked, the evil. And, God was not kidding when He said He would do this.More, you say?
EVEN PAUL warned the same thing . DONT BE DECIEVED CHURCH , its becuase of THESE THINGS that the wrath of GODBesides God being a loving Father, He is also Just, Jealous, NEVER changing, does what He say's and say's what He means. All powerful, all knowing, present in all places. He does, has and will again, expend His wrath on the un Godly, the wicked, the evil. And, God was not kidding when He said He would do this.
You only see one of His attributes-Love, to your own detriment, IMHO
Thanks for your response. Consider this, if you will.Besides God being a loving Father, He is also Just, Jealous, NEVER changing, does what He say's and say's what He means. All powerful, all knowing, present in all places. He does, has and will again, expend His wrath on the un Godly, the wicked, the evil. And, God was not kidding when He said He would do this.
You only see one of His attributes-Love, to your own detriment, IMHO
To my own detriment? What does that mean?You only see one of His attributes-Love, to your own detriment, IMHO
" Jesus doesn't give up till he has all his sheep. "Let me respond to you this way , God works in ages , pre earth age God created the heavenly hosts / the next age Adam to Noah ,God delt with them differently than us they did not follow Jesus as we do but followed some kind of laws that God did not share with us. / Noah to Abraham , God made a covenant with Noah on what he expected / Abraham to Jesus , God made a covenant with Abraham but the law was not given till more than 400 years into that covenant / Then came Jesus with the New covenant John 13:3 The Father has given all things into Jesus hands. / John 6:38-39 For I came down from heaven not to do mine own will but the will of him that sent me , and this is the Fathers will which has sent me, that of all which he has given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. We are under the age of grace few will follow in this age, but that is not the end of the story. In the age to come those who are to be thrown into the Lake of Fire will be punished for correction, ( a theme that is throughout the whole Bible) Mal 3:2 but who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appears for he is like a refiners fire and like a fullers soap. Eph 2:7 in the coming ages he might display the surpassing riches of his grace. / Matt 5:26 Truly, I say to you, you will never get out until you have paid the last penny. Jesus doesn't give up till he has all his sheep , till Phil 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The verses that you have quoted tell of what is going to happen in this age, but the age to come completes the story for "we trust in the living God, who is the savior of all men, especially of those who believe.( 1 Tim 4:9-11) so that in the end as 1 Cor 15:28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
Yes, we are to be good to those who persecute us, and love them and, nobody can love someone more than God Himself. He chastises those He loves, because He IS love. But He is just, He does not change, He is faithful to keep His promises both good and bad.Thanks for your response. Consider this, if you will.
Jesus taught us that godly behavior is to love our enemies. Scripture below.
That being the case, what should God do to his enemies?
Does he hold himself to a lower standard than he holds us to?
Matthew 5:43-48 NIV
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Okay.I tremble before Him! I don't believe you will come around to what I believe and most surely, I will not be convinced of what you teach.
Peace
Good and bad? Some of his promises are bad? Wow.He IS love. But He is just, He does not change, He is faithful to keep His promises both good and bad.
They believed Satans lie and disobeyed God. It's no different with us today. We relate with hiding and covering with our fellow man not just with God when there is no transparency.I agree with that point.
Many don't understand that the way you and I do.
What do you think happened to cause the hiding and covering?
At the end of chapter two they were naked an unashamed.
When the Serpent's lie was believed.i wonder when salvation got conflated with going to heaven after death?
Thanks. You might enjoy this.They believed Satans lie and disobeyed God. It's no different with us today. We relate with hiding and covering with our fellow man not just with God when there is no transparency.
The Gospel calls us into transparency (light) in every aspect of our reality.
I think much of what we deem conscience (which by the way, is programmed) is the devil talking.
hmmWhen the Serpent's lie was believed.