The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

[David in NJ]

Obviously, the physical resurrection is not the first if Jesus precedes it.

Amils have showed you several times that your usage of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 to support a future first resurrection is untenable, but you swerved around it (as you do). It describes Jesus’ defeat of the grave. Your reasoning negates the one-and-only first resurrection - which is historic and glorious. Rev 20 demonstrates the great victory that was wrought against every enemy of the righteous and the favored place that the dead in Christ now hold, since sin, death, Satan, Hades and eternal punishment has been defeated.

You have a contradiction that you are avoiding: there are two parties in 1 Thessalonians 4. The "first" are "the dead in Christ" alone! The second are the 'live in Christ' alone! The word "first" is simply to show order between the dead in Christ and the live in Christ at the general resurrection. The dead rise first and the “live” rise second. 1 Thessalonians 4 is simply showing order. This is not talking about the "first resurrection."

The Bible distinguishes between the first and second aspects of this great final glorification event. Unfortunately, for your doctrine, and for your argument, whatever way you word it, the living in Christ and not part of your first resurrection. What is more, it causes you to overlook the real first resurrection which occurred 2000 years ago, thus proving we are in Revelation 20 now.

The Bible distinguishes between the first and second aspects of this great final glorification event. Unfortunately, for your doctrine, and for your argument, whatever way you word it, the living in Christ are not part of your first resurrection. What is more, it causes you to overlook the real first resurrection which occurred 2000 years ago, thus proving we are in Revelation 20 now.

You said: "Obviously, the physical resurrection is not the first if Jesus precedes it."

This is where you stumble

 

[WPM]

You said: "Obviously, the physical resurrection is not the first if Jesus precedes it."

This is where you stumble

Quite the opposite. Jesus is "the first resurrection" (Acts 26:23 and Revelation 20:6), "the firstborn from the dead" (Colossians 1:18), "the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 15:20), "first begotten of the dead" (Revelation 1:5). Nowhere does it call the future resurrection of the dead in Christ the first resurrection.

 

[David in NJ]

Quite the opposite. Jesus is "the first resurrection" (Acts 26:23 and Revelation 20:6), "the firstborn from the dead" (Colossians 1:18), "the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 15:20), "first begotten of the dead" (Revelation 1:5). Nowhere does it call the future resurrection of the dead in Christ the first resurrection.

You are 100% correct
EXCEPT for this which you say: "Nowhere does it call the future resurrection of the dead in Christ the first resurrection."

 

[WPM]

You said: "Obviously, the physical resurrection is not the first if Jesus precedes it."

This is where you stumble

This is a classic example of how you swerve around damning arguments for your theology. You sweep it all under the carpet and live in denial that the contradictions do not exists. This is not a profitable way to engage. It exposes your position. It shows us all that you have no answer to Amil. Its arguments are irrefutable. Avoidance is the MO of Premils. When they is exposed, they often move to ad hominem and then running. That is the pattern.

All you have is your fly-by denials. That is it.

 

[David in NJ]

This is a classic example of how you swerve around damning arguments for your theology. You sweep it all under the carpet and live in denial that the contradicts do not exists. This is not a profitable way to engage. It exposes your position. It shows us all that you have no answer to Amil. Its arguments are irrefutable. Avoidance is the MO of Premils. When they is exposed, they often move to ad hominem and then running. That is the pattern.

All you have is your fly-by denials. That is it.

Have you ever tried YesYahmology to better understand Scripture?

 

[WPM]

You are 100% correct
EXCEPT for this which you say: "Nowhere does it call the future resurrection of the dead in Christ the first resurrection."

LOL. There is only one "first resurrection." Hello! That is common-sense. If there is another future victory over the grave then it must be the second resurrection. This is both biblical and logical. Whatever way you look at Premil it does not not add up. It is a non-corroborative doctrine. You cannot even address this contraction. You paper over it.

Your private interpretation will never trump Scripture.

 

[David in NJ]

LOL. There is only one "first resurrection." Hello! That is common-sense. If there is another future victory over the grave then it must be the second resurrection. This is both biblical and logical. Whatever way you look at Premil it does not not add up. It is a non-corroborative doctrine. You cannot even address this contraction. You paper over it.

Your private interpretation will never trump Scripture.

Have you ever tried YesYahmology to better understand Scripture?

 

[WPM]

Have you ever tried YesYahmology to better understand Scripture?

You are now into Phase 2 of the Premil mode of engagement - ad hominem. The insults are a classic sign that you have lost the debate.

John is describing a current reality in Revelation 20:6. It says, “Blessed and holy is he ‘that hath part’ (present active particle) in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.” Our part in the first resurrection, shown throughout the Word to be Christ’s resurrection (Acts 26:23, Colossians 1:18, 1 Corinthians 15:20 and Revelation 1:5). This is supported by Revelation 2:11, which similarly says: “He that overcometh (present active particle) shall not be hurt of the second death.” This is talking about the sinner that experiences Christ in this life. It is not talking about a future physical resurrection as you argue. The victory over salvation is secured in this life by trusting in Christ. Here is more proof that our escape from “the second death” is not future tense (as Premillennialists claim) but presence tense.

 

[David in NJ]

You are now into Phase 2 of the Premil mode of engagement - ad hominem. The insults are a classic sign that you have lost the debate.

John is describing a current reality in Revelation 20:6. It says, “Blessed and holy is he ‘that hath part’ (present active particle) in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power.” Our part in the first resurrection, shown throughout the Word to be Christ’s resurrection (Acts 26:23, Colossians 1:18, 1 Corinthians 15:20 and Revelation 1:5). This is supported by Revelation 2:11, which similarly says: “He that overcometh (present active particle) shall not be hurt of the second death.” This is talking about the sinner that experiences Christ in this life. It is not talking about a future physical resurrection as you argue. The victory over salvation is secured in this life by trusting in Christ. Here is more proof that our escape from “the second death” is not future tense (as Premillennialists claim) but presence tense.

YesYahmology = John 11:23-27

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”

Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

 

[WPM]

YesYahmology = John 11:23-27

Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.”

24Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. 26And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

27She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

The Bible shows the resurrection/judgment of the righteous and the resurrection of the wicked to occur on “the last (or final) day” of “the last days” when Jesus comes. Martha had a full awareness of that truth in the New Testament, when speaking of her brother Lazarus to Christ, in John 11:23-24, “Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Christ did not rebuke this understanding of the last day. In fact, Christ taught in complete agreement in John 6:39.

Jesus said in John 6:39: “all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.”

Resurrection day is the last day. It is the final day of history.

Jesus said in John 6:39: “every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Jesus said in John 6:44: “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Jesus said in John 6:54: “Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood (speaking spiritually and figuratively), hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Premils are unable to take Scripture after Scripture literally (and at face value) because it interferes with their mistaken opinion. They must therefore dismiss the "last day" being the "last day" because they have to squeeze thousands of additional days after history's last day. This is blatantly unbiblical. Amils are happy to let the Bible speak for itself.

Whilst, we are plainly in the last days there is an actual day coming which will conclude this scene of time and will see the final operation of God’s judgment upon sin, Satan and the wicked. That individual day is frequently known as “the last day.”

The sum total of God’s elect will be gloriously raised at this concluding final day. The resurrection of the righteous like that of the wicked is therefore for the purpose of judgment and happens on that great last or final day of salvation. That is how Paul could say with all assurance in 2 Timothy 4:8, “there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.”

Moreover, this concluding last day is not just a day of resurrection and judgment for the righteous but also for the wicked. This is confirmed by Christ in John 12:48, when He said, “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

Here the wicked are judged on the same day that the righteous are judged, namely, the “last day” of the “last days.” Judgment day is therefore the last day. The term “the last day” is quoted different times in the New Testament without any form (or undoubted requirement) of qualification or any hint that there are two separate last days, as the Premillennialist would try and argue. When Christ or any other person referred to that final day in the New Testament it was always constantly in the context of its all-consummating nature, each time referring to the matter of the resurrection/judgment of both the wicked and the righteous. The references expressly refer to the last day of this age (the Gospel age) – the day that ushers in the new heaven and the new earth. There are absolutely no grounds for believing that the last day refers to a future millennium, and therefore lasts for a literal 1,000 years. Such a suggestion only emanates out of the Premillennialist camp in order to support their flawed view of Revelation 20.

Significantly, in all the above references, the wording in the original for “last day” is always identical – eschatee heemara. The Greek word eschatee used here comes from the root word eschatos, from where we get our word English eschatology, and simply means end, last, farthest or final. Eschatology is therefore the study of, or teaching on, end times or final or last things. It covers the period of redemptive history.

We can therefore safely assume from its meaning that the last day alluded to in these references relates to the end or final day of this age, the day when all the purposes of God for man in this life are finally concluded and judged. It is the last or final day when the old heavens and the old earth will finally pass away and be replaced by a new heaven and a new earth. It is an all-consummating day in which every man will give finally give account for his life.

 

[David in NJ]

The Bible shows the resurrection/judgment of the righteous and the resurrection of the wicked to occur on “the last (or final) day” of “the last days” when Jesus comes. Martha had a full awareness of that truth in the New Testament, when speaking of her brother Lazarus to Christ, in John 11:23-24, “Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Christ did not rebuke this understanding of the last day. In fact, Christ taught in complete agreement in John 6:39.

Jesus said in John 6:39: “all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.”

Resurrection day is the last day. It is the final day of history.

Jesus said in John 6:39: “every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Jesus said in John 6:44: “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Jesus said in John 6:54: “Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood (speaking spiritually and figuratively), hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Premils are unable to take Scripture after Scripture literally (and at face value) because it interferes with their mistaken opinion. They must therefore dismiss the "last day" being the "last day" because they have to squeeze thousands of additional days after history's last day. This is blatantly unbiblical. Amils are happy to let the Bible speak for itself.

Whilst, we are plainly in the last days there is an actual day coming which will conclude this scene of time and will see the final operation of God’s judgment upon sin, Satan and the wicked. That individual day is frequently known as “the last day.”

The sum total of God’s elect will be gloriously raised at this concluding final day. The resurrection of the righteous like that of the wicked is therefore for the purpose of judgment and happens on that great last or final day of salvation. That is how Paul could say with all assurance in 2 Timothy 4:8, “there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.”

Moreover, this concluding last day is not just a day of resurrection and judgment for the righteous but also for the wicked. This is confirmed by Christ in John 12:48, when He said, “He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

Here the wicked are judged on the same day that the righteous are judged, namely, the “last day” of the “last days.” Judgment day is therefore the last day. The term “the last day” is quoted different times in the New Testament without any form (or undoubted requirement) of qualification or any hint that there are two separate last days, as the Premillennialist would try and argue. When Christ or any other person referred to that final day in the New Testament it was always constantly in the context of its all-consummating nature, each time referring to the matter of the resurrection/judgment of both the wicked and the righteous. The references expressly refer to the last day of this age (the Gospel age) – the day that ushers in the new heaven and the new earth. There are absolutely no grounds for believing that the last day refers to a future millennium, and therefore lasts for a literal 1,000 years. Such a suggestion only emanates out of the Premillennialist camp in order to support their flawed view of Revelation 20.

Significantly, in all the above references, the wording in the original for “last day” is always identical – eschatee heemara. The Greek word eschatee used here comes from the root word eschatos, from where we get our word English eschatology, and simply means end, last, farthest or final. Eschatology is therefore the study of, or teaching on, end times or final or last things. It covers the period of redemptive history.

We can therefore safely assume from its meaning that the last day alluded to in these references relates to the end or final day of this age, the day when all the purposes of God for man in this life are finally concluded and judged. It is the last or final day when the old heavens and the old earth will finally pass away and be replaced by a new heaven and a new earth. It is an all-consummating day in which every man will give finally give account for his life.

YesYahmology teaches us this:

Jesus is:
a.) the Resurrection = John ch11
b.) the First who was Resurrected = The Firstfruits - 1 Cor ch15
c.) the Resurrection of the Saints who have died = at His Second Coming - 1 Thess 4:13-18 & Rev ch19 & ch20

Therefore the FIRST Resurrection is only in Christ = NOW/TODAY in our spirit and at the Last Day our New Body = His Second Coming

"Yes Lord, i believe"

 

[WPM]

Jesus is:
a.) the Resurrection
b.) the First who was Resurrected = The Firstfruits
c.) the Resurrection of the Saints who have died = at His Second Coming

Therefore the FIRST Resurrection is only in Christ = NOW/TODAY in our spirit and at the Last Day our New Body = His Second Coming

Exactly. So, we are not waiting for a future first resurrection. The first resurrection has already victoriously occurred.

You totally missed my point above re "the last day." The wording in the original for “last day” is always identical – eschatee heemara. The Greek word eschatee used here comes from the root word eschatos, from where we get our word English eschatology, and simply means end, last, farthest or final. Eschatology is therefore the study of, or teaching on, end times or final or last things. It covers the period of redemptive history.

This totally negates a future millennium of more time and days after the second coming.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is LITERAL = Rev ch20

Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the Abyss, holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3And he threw him into the Abyss, shut it, and sealed it over him, so that he could not deceive the nations until the thousand years were complete. After that, he must be released for a brief period of time.

4Then I saw the thrones, and those seated on them had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

5The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[David in NJ]

Exactly. So, we are not waiting for a future first resurrection. The first resurrection has already victoriously occurred.

You totally missed my point above re "the last day." The wording in the original for “last day” is always identical – eschatee heemara. The Greek word eschatee used here comes from the root word eschatos, from where we get our word English eschatology, and simply means end, last, farthest or final. Eschatology is therefore the study of, or teaching on, end times or final or last things. It covers the period of redemptive history.

This totally negates a future millennium of more time and days after the second coming.

YesYahmology comes from the Greek words = Nai Kyrie Pepisteuka = "Yes Lord i believe/trust"

YesYahmology teaches us that as we read/hear Yesuah's words we are to agree with them and place our trust/faith in what Yeshuah says.

Since Jesus/Yeshuah is speaking of the end/last day of this current age that is ruled by satan.

Martha knew of the Last Day First Resurrection = John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Jesus AGREES with Martha and explains that HE is the Resurrection BOTH today/now AND at the Last Day

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live = Last Day Resurrection

Therefore JESUS is asking you WPM, right now = "Do you believe this?"

 

[Truth7t7]

Since Jesus/Yeshuah is speaking of the end/last day of this current age that is ruled by satan.

Martha knew of the Last Day First Resurrection = John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Jesus AGREES with Martha and explains that HE is the Resurrection BOTH today/now AND at the Last Day

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live = Last Day Resurrection

Therefore JESUS is asking you WPM, right now = "Do you believe this?"

There is no mortal earthly time "Beyond" The Last Day as you "Falsely" suggest

The Last Day is the time of final judgement, as you bend and twist, desperately trying to extend time for your make believe 1,000 year kingdom on this earth, that will never take place

Sad part is Dave, you are shown the truth again and again, and you continue to teach error "Why"?

The Last Day Is The Time Of Final Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[WPM]

YesYahmology comes from the Greek words = Nai Kyrie Pepisteuka = "Yes Lord i believe/trust"

YesYahmology teaches us that as we read/hear Yesuah's words we are to agree with them and place our trust/faith in what Yeshuah says.

Since Jesus/Yeshuah is speaking of the end/last day of this current age that is ruled by satan.

Martha knew of the Last Day First Resurrection = John 11:24
Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.”

Jesus AGREES with Martha and explains that HE is the Resurrection BOTH today/now AND at the Last Day

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live = Last Day Resurrection

Therefore JESUS is asking you WPM, right now = "Do you believe this?"

Here you go again with your condescending questions. You normally do this when you have no counter-answer. Read my posts and you will get your answer - loud and clear.

Now, will you address the posts and Scriptures above that you have swerved around that forbid your reasoning?

Do you believe that "the last day” [Gr. eschatee heemara] is the end, last, farthest or final day of time?

 

[Timtofly]

white robes are not the spirits of the saints = white robes are not a person but a "wedding garment" that they are part of.

When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held.
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”
Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.
Rev ch6

Symbolically yes.

They are not literal white robes. Don't you think the bride has to be fully restored, soul, body, and spirit? A wedding garment is fine as allegory. But the point about the 5th Seal is the complete restoration of the bride even if done through wedding allegorical symbolism. The church is presented without spot or blemish, body, soul, and spirit.

It will happen so fast, that physically putting on a literal wedding garment is too slow. But a literal wedding in mid air? OK. It will be the fastest wedding ever. Over in a twinkling of an eye. The 5th Seal is not tribulation. It is the church putting on incorruption and the spirit. The fastest wedding ever.

 

[Timtofly]

Quite the opposite. Jesus is "the first resurrection" (Acts 26:23 and Revelation 20:6), "the firstborn from the dead" (Colossians 1:18), "the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 15:20), "first begotten of the dead" (Revelation 1:5). Nowhere does it call the future resurrection of the dead in Christ the first resurrection.

You do realize these verse are talking about being born and not being resurrected?

Jesus was the firstborn of the dead.

"That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead."

This does not claim to be a first general resurrection.

The resurrection of Christ was physical. The first resurrection is physical. This is a first resurrection:

"And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

Jesus was not alone, all the OT came out of their graves physically. The first resurrection is physical. The OT redeemed were also the firstfruits plural, not a firstfruit, singular.

Being called out of the grave by the Resurrection and the Life is a physical resurrection, and it is the first resurrection that prevents all who are given it, an escape from the second death, which is the LOF.

 

[Truth7t7]

You do realize these verse are talking about being born and not being resurrected?

Jesus was the firstborn of the dead.

"That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead."

This does not claim to be a first general resurrection.

The resurrection of Christ was physical. The first resurrection is physical. This is a first resurrection:

"And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

Jesus was not alone, all the OT came out of their graves physically. The first resurrection is physical. The OT redeemed were also the firstfruits plural, not a firstfruit, singular.

Being called out of the grave by the Resurrection and the Life is a physical resurrection, and it is the first resurrection that prevents all who are given it, an escape from the second death, which is the LOF.

The Old Testament saints were "Raised From The Dead" just as Lazarus and Tabitha were

Jesus clearly taught "The Resurrection" takes place at his coming, then cometh the end, 1 Corinthians 15:23-24

1 Corinthians 15:23-24KJV
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

 

[David in NJ]

Symbolically yes.

They are not literal white robes. Don't you think the bride has to be fully restored, soul, body, and spirit? A wedding garment is fine as allegory. But the point about the 5th Seal is the complete restoration of the bride even if done through wedding allegorical symbolism. The church is presented without spot or blemish, body, soul, and spirit.

It will happen so fast, that physically putting on a literal wedding garment is too slow. But a literal wedding in mid air? OK. It will be the fastest wedding ever. Over in a twinkling of an eye. The 5th Seal is not tribulation. It is the church putting on incorruption and the spirit. The fastest wedding ever.

THINK THINK THINK and DO NOT change Holy Scripture.

The 5th Seal is the LORD show-n-tell to us that His Bride will only be complete(ALL who will be Part of HER) AFTER the set number die.

The white robes are not allegorical but literal and they are NOT the NEW Transformed Bodies.

The NEW Transformed Bodies ONLY takes place at the Second Coming of Christ = 1 Thess 4:13-18 , 1 Cor ch15 , Rev ch19 & ch20

LITERAL WHITE ROBES = Acts ch1

After He had said this, they watched as He was taken up, and a cloud hid Him from their sight. 10They were looking intently into the sky as He was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen Him go into heaven.”