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And consider that the writer of your verse, knows the word "sin" and used "faults", instead, as he's talking about "faults"
No. I’m saying the writer used sin as the word in question and you are invoking a False Alternative to support your never ending OSAS doctrine.
 

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Its interesting that He has not come to my Threads, in about a year.
MaryMOG has been around them, since then, but not too much.

When i was first here, BrdOFLFE was on them all.
Then, we had this discussion, where BreadOfLife was trying to prove that the water that was under Noah's Ark, was SALVATION., as He's been taught that the Water is His Savior. (Baptismal Regeneration).
So, i pointed out to him that the WATER was drowning the world and if Noah and Family got in that water, they would DIE.
They would DIE.
Then i asked Him to notice that the ARK was keeping Noah OUT of the water.
He didnt like that comment., and told me that im "ignorant".
Then i showed Him that Noah's Ark is the place of Safety from that WATER of JUDGMENT, exactly as the Cross of Christ (made of wood) is the BELIEVER's only place of safety from hell and the lake of fire (the 2nd Death).

The next time i heard from BreadofLife, was 2 days ago. So, its been a while.
So, i guess he forgot.....
I hope my photo helps him to remember the mess he's in.
The RCC is highly dangerous . let no man , woman , child sit under it . But we ourselves had better KNOW our bibles well .
cause the protestant realm , IS IN SERIOUS DECEPTOINS of men too . The simple thing for all
would be to just get in the bible for ourselves and enjoy it and learn what is written .
 

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"Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from US."

"oral Tradition" is PREACHING or Teaching., passed down through decades and centuries.
Im doing it orally , right now, in my Thread.

"US" is the Apostles, whose LETTERS are given to converts and to other Apostles and to local assemblies.
These now make up the NT.

In all cases this is not the Catholic Church as defined by a Pope and a worship of Mary. "cult of Mary".

Try to understand that the "body of Christ" is the "church".
Each individual believer is the "temple of the Holy Spirit"....>"Temple" would be God's Church, and that is each born again person.
This is the "body of Christ".
 

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“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.” (Deuteronomy 4:2)

But assemblies like yours are rebuked by Christ himself!

“For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.” (Mark 7:8)

How about those costumes your leaders wear?

THAT IS ADDED VANITY!

The New Testament has no instructions for all the vanity and fluff your church engages in!
That command refers to THAT Book (Duteronomy) in the OLD Testamewnt.

JESUS told the Leaders of His Church - in the NEW Testament:
Matt. 16:19, Matt. 18:18

I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Luke 10:16

Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."
 

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If you confess your sin to a congregation
Evidence your position is flawed is that you keep changing the subject. No one said to confess to a congregation but to one another.

Two examples: my friend and my wife. Both devout. Both admitting sinning. My friend has an online addiction. Admitting it to people he trusts helps him repent.

Denying born again believers sin is not helpful but antagonistic to the church.
 

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Its interesting that He has not come to my Threads, in about a year.
MaryMOG has been around them, since then, but not too much.

When i was first here, BrdOFLFE was on them all.
Then, we had this discussion, where BreadOfLife was trying to prove that the water that was under Noah's Ark, was SALVATION., as He's been taught that the Water is His Savior. (Baptismal Regeneration).
So, i pointed out to him that the WATER was drowning the world and if Noah and Family got in that water, they would DIE.
They would DIE.
Then i asked Him to notice that the ARK was keeping Noah OUT of the water.
He didnt like that comment., and told me that im "ignorant".
Then i showed Him that Noah's Ark is the place of Safety from that WATER of JUDGMENT, exactly as the Cross of Christ (made of wood) is the BELIEVER's only place of safety from hell and the lake of fire (the 2nd Death).

The next time i heard from BreadofLife, was 2 days ago. So, its been a while.
So, i guess he forgot.....
I hope my photo helps him to remember the mess he's in.
Actually it was the ARK that provided protection for noah . THE WATERS CAME TO DESTROY . YES indeed . You are correct on that .
 
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Its the law, that defines you as a hell bound sinner.
The Cross redefines you as a Saint, for eternity.

When believers get that understanding, they have something to say about God's gift of Salvation, other then "i can lose it".
You preach milk and think it meat - DELIBERATELY leaving out that once saved does not mean sanctification is complete.
 

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The RCC is highly dangerous . let no man , woman , child sit under it . But we ourselves had better KNOW our bibles well .
cause the protestant realm , IS IN SERIOUS DECEPTOINS of men too . The simple thing for all
would be to just get in the bible for ourselves and enjoy it and learn what is written .

Im always ready to denounce the "cult of Mary".

Its interesting that this cult has what is called "festival days".
And they have more of those that celebrate MARY, then they do that celebrate JESUS.
 
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If that is true then when they put your body in the ground, that is the end of you.
That is a Jehovah's Witness lie.
Dont believe it.
Believe this instead.

You are a eternal spirit , who is confined for the moment in a earth suit..... and the real you = the spirit will end up somewhere after you die.
It wont be the Grave.
You have Christ's word on that.
Does 1 John 3.4-10 teach you are not a real Christian, if you are still struggling with sin?

1Jn 3:4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

1Jn 3:5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

1Jn 3:6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

1Jn 3:8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

1Jn 3:9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

1Jn 3:10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

So this would imply that Christians lives sinless lives, or that they were never Christians.....that's not what the passage is teaching here....

Sinless perfectionism, when you get saved, you quit sinning, sinless perfectionists believe that when they get saved you "grow" in sinlessness until they reach a point where they don't sin anymore, others would say, we don't sin because it is not us doing sin, it's our flesh, because the new nature cannot sin.

Which one are you advocating?


1Jn 2:1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin,[Christians incapable of committing acts of sin?] we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

1Jn 2:2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. [There goes Calvinism]

1Jn 2:3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments.

1Jn 2:4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him,

1Jn 2:5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

John is not contradicting himself here, my time is running out, another blackout in SA.
 
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You preach milk and think it mea

Not according to many of my Threads, and my Posts.
Some are very basic, and that is necessary.

But if you want to be of use here, you might bring up a verse that isn't symbolic, or found the The Revelation, and we can discuss it.
Otherwise, you're stuck with casting false innuendo as usual in my direction.

This Thread is designed to teach "being now made from sin", so, its going to attract heretics who haven't been yet.
That's pretty obvious.
And its also going to attract students of the word who are trying to find out why their walk of faith is not producing...

"Christ always gives me the Victory"..
 

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Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.” (Deuteronomy 4:2)

That command refers to THAT Book (Duteronomy) in the OLD Testamewnt.

“…I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book” (Revelation 22:18)
 

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Does 1 John 3.4-10 teach you are not a real Christian, if you are still struggling with sin?

Being a CHRISTian has nothing to do with sin , as their sin is crucified with Christ , 2000 yrs ago.

Christianity is not about sin, its about "Christ in me, the hope of Glory".

its about "being in the world but not of it".

Its about, learning how to walk in the Spirit, and that is not a willpower situation, that is a revelation knowledge situation.
 

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Im always ready to denounce the "cult of Mary".

Its interesting that this cult has what is called "festival days".
And they have more of those that celebrate MARY, then they do that celebrate JESUS.
On the day of the LORD even MARY will judge that church . as will peter and all .
Mary is blessed , but even she would have told that church , WORSHIP NOT ME , BUT GOD .
That place is deadly . sadly so are many protestant churches these days .
THE ONE WORLD RELIGOIN is BLOOMING in full effect now . This false lie has been bought by so many .
The lie that says GOD is in ALL religoins and that ALL RELIGOINS are serving him . ONLY IN CHRIST DOES ONE KNOW
and SERVE GOD . And no other path , religoin or mindset is gonna save them . But this is getting attacked more and more
by even so called christains . the falling away is morphing fast now . Even on our news
they are pushing it . They even have the three temples built in the UAE and they opened last thursday . ITS ALL FALSE .
I stand upon a hill and have chose to die on it . That hill is , BELIEVE YE IN JESUS FOR HE ALONE HAS SALVATION
and nothing else can save one . JESUS said it first .
 

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Being a CHRISTian has nothing to do with sin , as their sin is crucified with Christ , 2000 yrs ago.

Christianity is not about sin, its about "Christ in me, the hope of Glory".

its about "being in the world but not of it".

Its about, learning how to walk in the Spirit, and that is not a willpower situation, that is a revelation knowledge situation.
Re read your first line . then remember what paul wrote . WHO we serve IS WHOSE WE ARE .
Too many are lip only and they wont make it . THEY love sin , they honor the dark rainbow
they even believe GOD is fine with all religoins and all paths . THESE DO NOT KNOW GOD NOR CHRIST .
They walk in darkness . THEY say THEY KNOW HIM but walk IN DARKNESS . THEY LIE .
IF a man loves NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS or HIS brethren , HE IS IN DARKNESS .
 
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Do you think this applies to those who reject Christ?

Being born again, can't be ended.
You can't stop being born.
Not of your mother, and not of the Holy Spirit.

To have become a Christian, is to be BORN.......again, and that is not related to what you think later., as what you think later, occurs after you are born again.
You can have "dead faith" after you are born again but you can never stop being born again, as this is caused by God's Holy Spirit and is eternal.
Having dead faith, is not the same as having dead salvation, as JESUS is salvation IN the born again, and He's not going anywhere.
The born again are going with Him.
We're already there....'IN Christ".

If a person who is born again Christian, like DEMAS, leaves their faith, then that is all that is, as they can't stop being born again, as faith does not continue spiritual birth.
God does.
Jesus does, as hes the "author and FINISHER of your FAITH".


Philippians 1:6 God is FAITHFUL to complete Salvation for all the born again.
 

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They claim GOD , they claim CHRIST , yet in works DENY HIM .
IF one provides not for his own and specially for those of his own household , HE HAS DENIED THE FAITH .
Hearers ONLY decieve themselves . BOTH PAUL and JAMES WERE RIGHT . THEY AGREED . we must learn the BIBLE for ourselves
 
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Being born again, can't be ended.
You can't stop being born.
Not of your mother, and not of the Holy Spirit.

To have become a Christian, is to be BORN.......again, and that is not related to what you think later., as what you think later, occurs after you are born again.
You can have "dead faith" after you are born again but you can never stop being born again, as this is cause by God's Holy Spirit and is eternal.

If a person who is born again Christian, like DEMAS, leaves their faith, then that is all that is, as they can't stop being born again, as faith does not continue a birth.
God does.

Philippians 1:6 God is FAITHFUL to complete Salvation for all the born again.
MOST FOLKS AINT BORN again . That is what i keep trying to say . THEY LIP HIS NAME , as I ONCE DID , but they live for darkness
AS I ONCE DID . I WAS LOST , NOT SAVED at that time .
 
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