The Mark of the Beast = Paper Money?

[Adam]

I hear some say the "mark of the beast" is "using paper money". Can anyone explain to me how that is?

Revelation 13:16-17 KJV
16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

As I read this, it's about identifying certain people by putting a mark on them, and that only those with this mark can buy and sell. I've never been able to understand how this becomes identified with using a fiat currency.

Much love!

The mark of the beast is ANY money.

1 Kings 10:14
King James Version
14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,​

 

[Behold]

Anyone who does not agree with your half truths is called some kind of nasty name every time. But you are definitely not presenting the full and true Gospel.

Can you post a so called "half truth" that you say i teach?

I have a lot of Threads , and posts.
Just bump one, the QUOTE.....that you say is a half truth, being taught.
No need to flip Mark's Thread, into a different topic.

Also,
The "Gospel" is the Cross of Christ.

 

[Behold]

The mark of the beast is ANY money.

1 Kings 10:14​

King James Version​

14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,​

God anointed Solomon to become the richest man who ever lived.
That is not a curse, that is a BLESSING.....That is FAVOR.

Listen, Adam.

God tells you to give to the poor, and to tithe.

Does your Church have air conditioning and lights inside?
That's a power-electric bill.
Paid with money or you'll sweat in the summer while you sit in the dark, in the Church building.

Does you car need gas?
Do you use the internet?

COSTS MONEY to be reading me...

You have to have MONEY to do what God said.... = Give to the poor or Tithe, or similar.
Money is a blessing.........its the love of it the fanatical pursuit of it, that is the problem.

 

[marks]

I can definitely see the US economy failing and a coming global, economic collapse before the mark of the beast is put into effect.

Regarding that, I'm thinking worldwide cataclysm, a sudden destruction.

We see man trying to set up his kingdoms to rule the world, and a lot of pieces seem to be in place.

Just like when Jesus was crucifed - "But not during the feast, we don't want a riot!" - men have their plans, but God's timing will prevail.

I think there will be a worldwide earthquake in the middle of the Gog/Magog invasion, followed by fire and blood and hail from the sky, and by the time the dust settles and the smoke clears, all the governments will have fallen, all economies crashed, and the man of sin will take up the reins.

I hesitate to image too clearly what a different world people will wake up to that day, the world in ruins and the true church gone. They won't know it, I don't think! Anyone who says the rapture happened will be denounced the fool, "I mean just look!! The Christians are still here!!" But they won't be. The real ones will be gone. "No, they just died in the earthquake, and rains of fire, so many people dead!!"

And they will have no idea of how evil and deadly it will all soon be.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

Prior to the mark of the beast being put into effect, I see the world going cashless and paper money becoming obsolete.

If you give to the poor, who live on the street........sometimes you dont have cash.
Sometimes i forget to go to the machine...

Ive had a Homeless tell me........"yeah, i know.....all the world has gone Plastic"

 

[ewq1938]

I think that's an excellent point. Though if they don't hold to a literal 42 months then that's not a problem for them. Did the "paper money" idea come from the Historical view of the Revelation? Does anyone know about that?

Much love!

I looked some older comemntaries and they all mention something to do with the Papacy but not specifically money.

 

[Adam]

That is not a curse, that is a BLESSING.....That is FAVOR.

Deut 17
17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

It was a sin.

 

[Adam]

The ideal is NO MONEY and everyone treating eachother as family. As long as people pursue money for their own benefit, they will toil on the earth night and day without rest, suffering plagues and death as a mortal.

 

[marks]

There is no explanation for such a foolish idea. And nowadays it is not even paper.

I guess to be fair the real idea is that of using fiat currency, which can be cashless, instead of money with intrinsic value, like gold or silver. Fiat currency represents false balances, since they can be manipulated more easily. As we see happening routinely!

I can't understand how someone makes that leap, from "getting marked on your body" to "your method of transactions".

Much love!

 

[Adam]

Matthew 19:21
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

 

[marks]

I looked some older comemntaries and they all mention something to do with the Papacy but not specifically money.

Now that you mention it, I don't seem to remember coming across this idea in anything except more recent writing. But then there is much I haven't read. I guess that's another question I have, when did this idea first come up?

Much love!

 

[Adam]

Mark 12:17
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

 

[Adam]

Luke 12
13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me.

14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you?

15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

 

[Behold]

mark on their right hand or forehead.

Right hand is how you sign

Forehead is where you decide to comply (choice)(freewill)

I understand that the basic idea of Mark and Beast, is cash, or related to finance.
And it is...but, not only is a mark, your signature, that marks you as signed up, but a "mark" is money, and the Global Economy will be His money, entirely.

Want some?

If you are here, and you want to be a part of his Tribulation and Great Trib Economy....then just sign on the dotted line.
Accept the Contract.
Sign up. Make your mark., as that marks you as owned by the Devil.
You signed up.
Bad idea.
Dont make that mark... .Die a Martyr instead, and miss hell.

 

[marks]

How did they end up living on Noah's property?? They didn't live close to him. He didn't see anyone drown. It was raining heavily and he was inside the Ark. He would have only seen his home, and then water.

The benefits of Critical Reasoning!

Much love!

 

[Behold]

Luke 12


15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.

Covetousness, is a branch of Lust.

All sin is lust.

Lust for MORE or DIFFERENT, is usually the problem.
The Devil lusted for more power and ended up down here.

When he was tempting Eve, he was lusting to ruin God's creation, to then run it.
Now he's the "god of this world".

He had a lust issue and all sin is lust.
The Devil's Lust is our sin nature.
When a person sins, they are doing what is natural for the devil to think or do.
"you are of YOUR FATHER the DEVIL".
That's every unbeliever.
The born again have a NEW FATHER......

Lust of the eye, usually. is the frontrunner with people, regarding how they lust.
From EYE to MIND.
But the mind will do it if you dont watch out....

 

[marks]

No it isn't. Nothing in the text suggests anything like that. It says they receive a mark on their right hand or forehead. When you mark a horse, is that a contract?? No. You are inserting your own personal ideas into the text, ignoring what the text actually says,

We don't have a lot of specific information on this.

There will be a couple of things happening. One is that anyone who will not worship the image will be killed. Another is that anyone who does not receive the mark cannot buy or sell.

God's warnings are equal against anyone worshiping the beast or receiving it's mark.

I surmise that one will be required to worship the beast or its image in order to obtain the mark.

As many as they are able to gather will be gathered to worship the beast and its image. Those who do not will be killed. Those who do will be marked and released.

How I see it . . .

Much love!

 

[marks]

The mark of the beast is ANY money.

1 Kings 10:14​

King James Version​

14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,​

Including the coin in the fishes mouth that Peter used to pay his and Jesus' temple tax? Even that money? It seems to me this is a case of Jesus using money to pay an obligation. Not that He had to, being the Son, but still, He provided the money and instructed Peter to use it.

So that can't be it, or so it seems to me.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Mark 12:17
And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

This seems like a tacit approval of using money, or so it seems to me.

Much love!

 

[Timtofly]

The Mark of the beast is the pledge you'll give the anti-christ so that you are allowed into his Global Economy and Global control.

You are the "Mark".

In other words, you'll be marked as being his, because you took the contract to join.
That contract will deny you access to the preaching of the 144,000, who will be preaching a gospel of faith and works.
IN that one, you have to "endure to the end" of the Great Trib, that happens that last 3.5 yrs.
If you dont become, or take the "mark"., you'll starve, and if you try to become "christian" at that time, and wont join him instead, (wont become marked as His), you'll be martyr'd for Christ.

That is not Scripture at all. The mark is given by God to declare one is removed from the Lamb's book of life.

Satan is happy God removed them from the Lamb's book of life. Satan rewards those people by letting them enjoy his empire.

No one is martyred for Christ in these 42 months of AoD. No one in Christ is even on the earth. If you want to remain in the Lamb's book of life, you need to chop off your head, not preserve your life or persevere as a sinner.

"I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands."

The ones resurrected were only those beheaded.