Michiah-Imla
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I have.
THEY ARE NOT PREACHING!!!
I already pointed that out to you!
Ever hear of S-Y-N-O-N-Y-M-S??
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I have.
THEY ARE NOT PREACHING!!!
I already pointed that out to you!
Ever hear of S-Y-N-O-N-Y-M-S??
Michiah-Imla
Well-Known Member
Sir, this is absurd!
I have provided scriptural evidence against all of your assertions, and all you got is just another wild and crazy accusation?
Dear Lord!
Help this man!
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They are Jewish evangelists..
Here is their fruit, in the Grt Trib
They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Cried out" = PREACHING......“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
These are they who have come out of the >>>>great tribulation<<<; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Let me help you a little bit more, today.
Listen, you can't become a Christian, unless you hear a gospel and believe it.
So, in the Trib and Great Trib, "faith comes by hearing" the a gospel, exactly as it happens now in "the time of the gentiles".
There has to be PREACHING to cause FAITH.
So, to deny preaching in the Grt Trib, is theological ignorance.,
And as there are no Christian's found preaching in the Great Trib, then who does that leave that is doing it?
Just think.
Dont run to a commentary or to your online helper.........just THINK.
If you have SAINTS in the Grt Trib, who became so in the GRT Trib, then they heard PREACHING.
And as there are no "time of the Gentiles" Christians in the Grt TRIB, or the Trib, then who is left to preach, so that "Saints' can become so in the Grt Trib?
JEWS are preaching.
Johann
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Obvious as daylight you have a problem with me and my posts.
The other problem is that I don't receive a notification as to your nonsensical rants, multiplication of words with no scripture references.
You say you read your bible from cover to cover, if you did, you wouldn't "label" me as being dishonest.
Now, hit that trench so that I may continue amigo.
You have a problem, stuck in a ditch, and have an inability to have a reasonable debate against anyone.
You should get a pair of reading glasses since what you are doing is putting words in the mouth of your opponent, making him a liar and you come of as "squeaky clean"
Michiah-Imla
Well-Known Member
How is reasonable debate possible with folks who just flat out don’t believe what the holy scriptures plainly say?
It seems that most here have been leavened by unbiblical teachings and have become skillful at twisting the sacred writings.
“And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity. Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.” (Jeremiah 9:5-6)
Johann
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I am going to have to disagree....
Gal_6:9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
2Th_3:13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
1Pe_2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
1Pe_3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
1Pe_4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
2Th_1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:
2Ti_2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
2Ti_2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
2Ti_4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti_4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Heb_12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Jas_5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
1Pe_2:19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
Rom_1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
Rom_5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Rom_6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom_16:19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
Rom_16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
For your obedience is come abroad unto all men: q.d. As for you, your ready embracing of the gospel, and conformity thereunto, is generally taken notice of by all that mind such things: see the like, Rom_1:8 1Th_1:8.
for the obedience of faith; i.e. that it may be believed and obeyed: see Rom_1:5 15:18.
Please see the scripture references.
2Co_7:15 And his inward affection is more abundant toward you, whilst he remembereth the obedience of you all, how with fear and trembling ye received him.
2Co_10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
2Co_10:6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
Phm_1:21 Having confidence in thy obedience I wrote unto thee, knowing that thou wilt also do more than I say.
Heb_5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
1Pe_1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Before you come back with an answer, do you believe we don't/do have a will/choice and depending on your answer, we ought to be obedient to the Imperatives of Christ, and the letters of Paul, where it is applicable unto us? Yes/No
For clarity, I would appreciate you using scripture references on major points, in order to avoid misunderstandings on both sides. A common phenomena.
I have also noticed that the Imperatives of Christ and of Paul is classified as "works"
Galatians 6:10 says, “So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith” (ESV). The King James Version uses the word men, but the meaning encompasses all people.
Christians have the command to “make every effort to add to your faith goodness” (2 Peter 1:5). We should be known for our goodness.
When people hear the word Christian, their first thoughts should be of honor, integrity, kindness, and good deeds. The idea of doing good to all men echoes Jesus’ words in Matthew 5:16: “Let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.” Our lights shine when we follow Jesus’ example of doing good wherever we go (Acts 10:38).
In our efforts to do good, we must not overlook the priority Paul sets in Galatians 6:10. We are to do good to everyone, but we are to pay special attention to the family of Christ. How we treat our fellow believers is a sign of our faith: “By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (John 13:35).
That love for the family of God shows itself in acts of goodness and charity (1 John 3:17) and is, in fact, one proof of salvation (1 John 2:9). We start doing good unto all men by softening our hearts toward our brothers and sisters in Christ and dedicating ourselves to their well-being, as though it were our own.
Which corroborates with the scriptures given,
No man has a right to call others to obey who has not obeyed himself. Our Lord
proved Himself to be the perfect King whose sovereignty is worthy of our respect and obedience.
How can we prepare for this judgment? By doing
God’s will.
Obedience to His will is the test of true faith
in Christ. The test is not words, not saying, “Lord,
Lord,” and not obeying His commands.
How easy it is
to learn a religious vocabulary, and even memorize
Bible verses and religious songs, and yet not obey God’s
will.
When a person is truly born again, he has the
Spirit of God living within (Rom. 8:9), and the Spirit
enables him to know and do the Father’s will. God’s
love in his heart (Rom. 5:5) motivates him to obey
God and serve others.
Words are not a substitute for obedience, and neither are religious works.
Preaching, casting out
demons, and performing miracles can be divinely
inspired, but they give no assurance of salvation. It is
likely that even Judas participated in some or all of
these activities, and yet he was not a true believer. In
the last days, Satan will use “lying wonders” to deceive
people (2 Thess. 2:7–12).
amigo de christo
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Exactly they were cut off cause of unbelief , faith in Christ .
Continue in His goodness , otherwise ye too shall be cut OFF
and they if they abide not in unbelief can be graffed back in . IT all means exactly what it says . exactly .
Continue in the faith , continue in Christ . exactly .
amigo de christo
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The fall took place when they rejected Christ .
Pual is writing to THE CHURCH when he wrote this letter .
Better continue IN THE FAITH or ye too shall be cut OFF . HE said that to BELIEVERS
Folks will do many things to twist things . My advice is JUST READ IT and learn it .
amigo de christo
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That reminder was a reminder to us all . Somehow it seemed to prick at you . The question is , WHY DID it do so .
Or why did you assume i wrote it to you . I wrote it to us all as a reminder as to what is going on .
JUDGE NOT has BECOME a TOOL of the churches and of the world to honor this abomination and evil
and to rebuke ONLY THOSE who do correct said evil . THIS is plain truth for all to see . ITS all over the churches .
YOU KNOW IT and I KNOW IT IS . the question is are we SUPPORTING IT . that is the question .
Johann
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It get's a bit tiresome as most here seems to have all the answers to life's questions, especially the ones, when you disagree, label you as an heretic, legalist, or whatever any other "-ist"
My apologies for being short with you.
Johann.
amigo de christo
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An abomination of abominations has entered into this last days age . ITS ROOTED ITSELF
DEEP within christanity . And we better have naught to do with it .
My advice is , if anyone is in any church that has taken on the mantra
that overlooks truth for sake of unity . YA BETTER GET OUT cause it gets much worse and fast .
IF known sin is present in the church and is not corrected , ITS FALLING BIG TIME
and leaven will quickly rise up to fill the place . IF rainbows are appearing in your churches
and sins are being overlooked and its become all about unity , THEN THE DELUSION IS IN THAT CHURCH BIG TIME
and worse it gets and quickly too . If the leaders dont sound like the apolstes
but rather make excuses for how times have changed and try and do things DIFFERENT
GET OUT they are DECIEVING YOU ALL . It time we get into bibles and learn CHRIST
and look out for one another . CAUSE these sold out leaders aint looking out for the sheep at all
RATHER they look out for themselves and thus continue to CONFORM CONFORM CONFORM to this ever changing world
IN ORDER TO SURVIVE and keep A JOB . THE HIRELING cares not for the sheep but rather for his own survival
and will change with the times IN ORDER TO SURVIVE . FLEE SUCH HOLES for they are in all out darkness now .
Correct who you can but if the leaders wont repent but rather MAKE EXCUSE for why they do as they do
GET OUT and take anyone you can with you
amigo de christo
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I have more nicknames than i can count . from anti christ to son of perdtion
to legalist to hater , to you name it they done claimed me it . BUT it wont silence my voice .
For my care is even for those who hate me . TIME TO POINT TO CHRIST and EVERY WORD OFTHE LORD
in hopes some will repent . But mark my words THIS WORLD and most in churches will NOT LOVE YOU .
Many have sold out the biblical christ for an anti christ . the love of GOD for the love of this sensual world .
mailmandan
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I have continued in the faith for 25 years now and still counting, thanks be to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who is the author and finisher of our faith.
Whether Jew or Gentile, it's unbelief that gets you cut off. My faith in Christ is too engraved in me and I'm too convinced and refusing to continue in faith is unfathomable to me, thanks be to God.
Living in fear and bondage to insecurity is how I lived prior to my conversion, while still attending the RCC, but no longer. (1 John 5:11-13) Praise God!
Jim B
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Don't you wonder why you have those nicknames? Or do you just ignore what others think of you? That is delusion. If someone, especially a Christian, called me "anti-Christ" or "son of perdition" or "legalist" or "hater" I would at least consider their self-serving motive! There is good reason for Christians to a negative attitude toward you when you are saying that "THIS WORLD and most in churches will NOT LOVE YOU" and "Many have sold out the biblical Christ for an anti Christ". When you have this judgmental attitude toward other Christians, they are right in responding negatively to you! I mean, GET A CLUE!!!
amigo de christo
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The world cannot hate you , but me it hates for i testify that its works are evil .
REMEMBER the servant is not greater than HIS LORD , if they have hated me they will hate you also
REMEMBER the servant is not greater than HIS LORD , if they have hated me they will hate you also
amigo de christo
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REJOICE REJOICE REJOICE when they persecute you and speak evil of you , for so did they unto the prophets
but woe unto you when the many shall speak well of you , for so did they unto the FALSE PROPHETS .
but woe unto you when the many shall speak well of you , for so did they unto the FALSE PROPHETS .
Michiah-Imla
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“By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)
“…let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” (2 Corinthians 7:1)
amigo de christo
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Exactly continue in the glorious LORD . Praise GOD you were pulled out of the harlots den .I have continued in the faith for 25 years now and still counting, thanks be to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, who is the author and finisher of our faith.
Whether Jew or Gentile, it's unbelief that gets you cut off. My faith in Christ is too engraved in me and I'm too convinced and refusing to continue in faith is unfathomable to me, thanks be to God.
Living in fear and bondage to insecurity is how I lived prior to my conversion, while still attending the RCC, but no longer. (1 John 5:11-13) Praise God!
