I would thank you for answering my very simple question finally, but as you blatantly did it by mocking me and my understanding, I won't...
More sidestepping so you can avoid my questions. You try to find any excuse to run and hide from my questions.
Anyone else willing to humbly answer this question:
Can a person be saved and inherit eternal life, if they refuse to repent, and if they continue to willfully break God's 10 Commandments, for example if they willfully continue to sleep around with multiple sex partners, kill people, steal, deceive people etc? Yes or No?
Anyone brave enough to answer?
God bless.
Legalism is where one says..."you should be obeying the law the way I do or you are not with God."
This is wickedness in the eyes of God. The Pharisees missed the bigger picture by judging from themselves and by nit-picking and bothering others about their way of keeping the law. They condemned Jesus for not washing hands, putting up with sinners, confronting them...etc...
The problem with the church is not a calendar issue...it is a spiritual issue. To reduce the church to a Sunday keeping vs Saturday keeping aganda is preposterous. We are to be ALWAYS holy...not just better behaved on a certain day.
Does anyone eat pork????
TruthSeeker...do you eat pork???
Legalism is trying to earn salvation by good works. But I am saved and have salvation by Jesus' perfect works he did during His sinless life of righteousness. But I obey now because I am already saved NOT to be saved. Out of LOVE for Jesus.
John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey the Commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him
We are justified and saved by free grace through Jesus' works! YET ONCE SAVED, we walk in harmony with the Law and Commandments! IF NOT, then a person continue to live in sin, and their faith is dead, and they weren't saved in the first place and 1John 2:4 applies to them.
Jesus taught that obeying in order to be saved is the worst kind of legalism, but obeying because we are saved is the acid test of a true relationship experience. Obedience follows true faith just as surely as day follows night. The person who keeps the commandments because he doesn't want to displease the God he loves is not a legalist at all!
And NO WAY, I do not eat pork, because it's an unclean food and it's linked to heart disease and other ill health issues. Even if I wasn't a Christian, I would still avoid pork, it clogs up the heart arteries and is a disgusting food.
Now that I answered your question, fair is fair, now you answer my question.... can a person be saved if they continue to willfully sin, e.g continue to rob people, have multiple sex partners regularly, continue to break into houses and steal things etc? Yes or No?
God bless.
Hi TruthSeeker2012,
You speak the words from the old covenant.
Hear the words of the new covenant. God wants you to love others, in fact, He lives love through you. If you are murdering, you are not living His love.
You are accusing God of Murder????
I can't imagine this is really your intent, could you possibly re-word what you are saying?
Love God, and love others.
This is another of those "complex questions". It introduces a logical fallacy into the discussion. Perhaps you could ask your question a different way?
You could simply say God wants us to love Him, and to love each other. Reaching out to the needy, sharing the Gospel, these are all included, and, of course, much much more. And yes, that is the primary goal in my life, to love God, and love others. And it is this love that comes as we walk in the Spirit. Do I do these things? Yes.
But not as a matter of rule-keeping.
Love in Christ,
Mark
Mark, I am a new Covenant Christian saved by faith + grace alone. But are you telling me I should now go and willfully break all the 10 Commandments? Yes or No?
Romans 6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid!
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid! Yea, we establish the law.
Willfully breaking Gods Commandments means we have NO TRUTH and there is NO LIGHT in those who do it! [1John 2:4], and willfully breaking God's Law means the person is NOT doing God's Will:
Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
You need to ask yourself why you hate God's Law so much. Sincerely born again Christians have God's Law written on their heart and sincerely born again Christians LOVE the Law, not HATE the Law as you do:
Hebrews 10:16 "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."
Are you saying that once a Christian is saved and set free in Christ, that they are now free to willfully break all the Commandments from the 10 Commandments? Yes or No?
Can you go through the 10 Commandments and show me which Commandments out of the 10 that you willfully break and believe God teaches us to willfully break?
1. You shall have no other gods before me. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
2. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
3. You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
4. Remember the sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
5. Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
6. You shall not murder. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
7. You shall not commit adultery. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
8. You shall not steal. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
9. You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or
anything that belongs to your neighbor. <--- Do you willfully break this Commandment? Yes or No?
And Mark, are you claiming the Bible is wrong and that Moses never entered the village, under God's Command, and never slaughtered women and children? Yes or No?
God bless.