Sanctification is not a Process

[Episkopos]

Uh…him? I think it’s they, as in they are legion.

Ah yes, the foreign legion.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

, but you’ve even noted and said - this is bizarre, you keep accusing me of what you are doing…

The irony.

 

[Episkopos]

You said there were no saints here, are you a saint?

I'm not so worthy...

 

[stunnedbygrace]

The irony.

Mm yeah, you have no pull there. You just recently kept saying someone was very angry and then got so quite visibly angry when the other man was very calm throughout.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I'm not so worthy...

Then how are you saved?

Or is God still sanctifying you?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Mm yeah, you have no pull there. You just recently kept saying someone was very angry and then got so quite visibly angry when the other man was very calm throughout.

Lol. I can read anger my friend..But if you say he was not angry, then

Let just say all of us have done this. So instead of puffing ourselves up. Lets confess our own sins..

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Then how are you saved?

When asked, what must I do to have eternal life, He answered from among the tablet that says to care for others at least as much as you care for yourself.

When the man Said, I’ve done those, what else do I lack, He said, well if you want to be perfect, sell all you have and follow Me.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

why do we have access? No one could enter the holy place unless they were completely clean. Sinless. or an animal cleaned them of their sin

What makes us clean? What makes us sure, and not fear?

Why do you think you can go when no impure person could ever enter?

@stunnedbygrace are you going to answer this question?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

When asked, what must I do to have eternal life, He answered from among the tablet that says to care for others at least as much as you care for yourself.

When the man Said, I’ve done those, what else do I lack, He said, well if you want to be perfect, sell all you have and follow Me.

So is he perfect? Are you perfect?

Again. Jesus made a point to him, the man claimed to be perfect. Jesus proved he was not. (He broke the 1st command, to love the lord your God with all your heart mind and soul)

Jesus then told hm that was what he was missing..

He should have repented.

How did Jesus say we are to be born again?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Lol. I can read anger my friend..But if you say he was not angry, then

Let just say all of us have done this. So instead of puffing ourselves up. Lets confess our own sins..

Of course we have all done it. We are raised in the whole sordid mess of it. It’s a wonder any of us EVER get free from that useless way of life we were all taught.

Marks was correct when he said we all fall somewhere on the narc scale, from low to full blown clinical.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Of course we have all done it. We are raised in the whole sordid mess of it. It’s a wonder any of us EVER get free from that useless way of life we were all taught.

Marks was correct when he said we all fall somewhere on the narc scale, from low to full blown clinical.

So if we all do it. Why would we be foolish enough to accuse others of it. When we do it also?

that was my point..

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So is he perfect? Are you perfect?

No…caring at least as much for others as you do for yourself, treating others at least as well as you do yourself -that’s not holiness. It’s doing righteousness.

When asked, what must I do to have eternal life, He answered from among the tablet that says to care for others at least as much as you care for yourself.

When the man Said, I’ve done those, what else do I lack, He said, well if you want to be perfect, sell all you have and follow Me.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

No…caring at least as much for others as you do for yourself, treating others at least as well as you do yourself -that’s not holiness. It’s doing righteousness.

When asked, what must I do to have eternal life, He answered from among the tablet that says to care for others at least as much as you care for yourself.

When the man Said, I’ve done those, what else do I lack, He said, well if you want to be perfect, sell all you have and follow Me.

How does that take care of our sin debt against God

Why can;t you see what Jesus tried to show the man? To all jews.. who thought they were perfect And did not need him?

 

[marks]

Marks was correct when he said we all fall somewhere on the narc scale, from low to full blown clinical.

That's not what I said.

As with any personality disorder, any given individual will be somewhere on a spectrum, with the various specific traits and behaviors unique to the individual.

I'm not saying that everyone has every personality disorder, I'm saying anyone with a personality disorder . . .

Much love!

Oops! I replied to myself!

 

[marks]

Actually, what he was trying to do was hint that I might have NPD since I was raised by someone with NPD. Which, funny enough, is something NPD’s will do - accuse someone else of being NPD!

No, that's not what I was doing. I don't actually think you have NPD. I just don't see that in you.

Much love!

 

[marks]

So if we all do it. Why would we be foolish enough to accuse others of it. When we do it also?

that was my point..

Just to be clear, I didn't say what SBG claimed I said.

Much love!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

So if we all do it. Why would we be foolish enough to accuse others of it. When we do it also?

that was my point..

If we’ve found our way out of it with Gods help, we speak the truth when we see it. It would be awful to not try to help others to see and escape it.
And when you begin to see it and it’s not hidden to you anymore, you see it everywhere. Not just in your own little microcosm, but you see it everywhere. And you see people explode because they can see something is being done to them but they can’t explain what and so they just explode in frustration. They can’t see it because it’s done in a hidden and PA way. And most of us will believe a person in what they say about themselves. In fact, we will keep believing what they say even when great evidence to the contrary is right in front of us.
We will think, well, they seemed very upset to me but when I asked if they were upset, they said they weren’t so I must just be imagining it…
Or if someone was quite mean to us we will let them convince us they were just joking around and let them convince us we are too sensitive.

We will even do things like that ourselves. If someone says, hey, are you mad at me about something, we will say no, even though we know darn well we are angry. Why do we DO that?? Why not just say, you know what…yeah, I am a little angry and such and such is why. I mean, that would be the logical thing to do if we want to at least attempt to return to peace and equilibrium with the person.
And if the truth sets us free, why on earth won’t we BE truthful…? It’s because we haven’t yet really discovered it’s TRUE. Because when we see it’s true, we become absolutely ADDICTED to always being truthful.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

That's not what I said.

You said narcissism was a scale we all fall on somewhere. And that’s true. Weve all learned some of the tactics and have used them, even if not often.

 

[Wrangler]

I think your lofty claims tells the story. You have no idea what you're talking about. To much pretend time in Sunday school?

More grace-less posts. Is this how one on the higher walk talks?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

More grace-less posts. Is this how one on the higher walk talks?

Awww, no one will call you a saint, you poor thing.