How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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Johann

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They that wait upon the Lord...shall renew their strength! Wait...that's not right...that's for the Jews. No need to wait upon the Lord...that's unbelief...just read the bible and all who believe it's about them...name it and claim it. :rolleyes:
1. How utterly foolish it is for Israel to moan that her way is hidden from the Lord! (vs. 37; Isa_49:14; Isa_54:8; Isa_59:1-2).
a. How brazenly insulting to complain that God has been unjust toward her! (Job_27:2; Job_34:5-6; Luk_18:7-8).
b. The prophet insists that God adequately supplies the needs of everything He has created, (Isa_34:16; Psa_145:16).
2. Both the wisdom and strength of Israel's God are inexhaustible, (vs. 28-29).
a. He is, in every way, superior to idols - the works of men's hands; He is the Everlasting, Creator-God, (Psa_90:2).
b. He never grows weary or faint; and His understanding is beyond human comprehension, (Rom_11:33; Isa_41:10).
3. Such as learn to "wait on the Lord" will find their provision adequate, (vs. 30-31).
a. Their strength will be renewed daily, so that they may mount up as with the wings of an eagle, (Psa_103:5; 2Co_4:8-10; 2Co_4:16; Exo_19:4; Deu_32:11).
b. Their appointed race may be run without weariness or fainting, (Gal_6:9).
4. But, those who cannot draw upon the vast resources of divine grace (because they will not trust in God) will faint and fall by the wayside.


mount up . . . run . . . walk. Note the Figure of speech Cata-basis, to call attention (by Application) to the progress of experience in grace. At first we fly (compare Paul, 2Co_11:5; 2Co_12:11); then we run (compare Paul, Eph_3:8); then we walk (compare Paul, 1Ti_1:15).


they that: Isa_8:17, Isa_25:9, Isa_30:18; Psa_25:3, Psa_25:5, Psa_25:21, Psa_27:14, Psa_37:34, Psa_40:1, Psa_84:7, Psa_92:1, Psa_92:13; Psa_123:2; Lam_3:25-26; Rom_8:25; 1Th_1:10
renew: Heb. change, Jdg_16:28; Job_17:9, Job_33:24-26; Psa_103:5, Psa_138:3; 2Co_1:8-10; 2Co_4:8-10, 2Co_4:16, 2Co_12:9-10
mount: Exo_19:4; Psa_84:7; Son_8:5; Zec_10:12; Rev_4:7
not faint: Psa_27:13; Luk_18:1; 2Co_4:1, 2Co_4:16; Gal_6:9; Heb_12:1; Rev_2:3

Yes, I believe it is applicable for me--the weary pilgrim, and you should learn to do cross-referencing since in most of your posts you don't/rarely cite Scriptures

J.
 
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I was never under the ordinances they were.
So you were ok on your own. You were never in any danger, Christ did not have to die for you? He just died for them? Please note that Paul spoke to the corinthian church and told them this.. Not only did Christ already die by then, But they were not a jewish church. They were a church in a Gentile city
 

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So you were ok on your own. You were never in any danger, Christ did not have to die for you? He just died for them? Please note that Paul spoke to the corinthian church and told them this.. Not only did Christ already die by then, But they were not a jewish church. They were a church in a Gentile city
I didn’t live in that age. Jesus made it so that I can know a living father. Corinth was invaded by judaizers, you should probably read it again. They were trying to assassinate his character. Do you think there were all gentile Christian’s at Corinth?

There were Jews dispersed all throughout the regions.
 

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The trick is to not misuse what we are given as directives to prop up the very thing we claim is crucified (according to the text).
I didn’t live in that age. Jesus made it so that I can know a living father. Corinth was invaded by judaizers, you should probably read it again. They were trying to assassinate his character. Do you think there were all gentile Christian’s at Corinth?

There were Jews dispersed all throughout the regions.

I didn’t live in that age. Jesus made it so that I can know a living father. Corinth was invaded by judaizers, you should probably read it again. They were trying to assassinate his character. Do you think there were all gentile Christian’s at Corinth?

There were Jews dispersed all throughout the regions.
RECIPIENTS OF THE LETTER



A. The recipient of this letter was a fledgling church made up mostly of Gentiles. The population of Corinth was racially and culturally mixed. We know from archaeology and Scripture (cf. Acts 18:4-8) that there was a synagogue in Corinth.



B. Roman soldiers were retired there after they completed twenty years of military service. Corinth was a free city, a Roman colony, and capital of the Roman province of Achaia.



C. The letter seems to reflect several groups in the church:

1. intellectual Greeks who were still very proud of their philosophical traditions and were trying to wed Christian revelation to these old customs and intellectual traditions

2. Roman patrons and the socially elite

3. a believing Jewish contingent made up mostly of "god-fearing" Gentiles, who attended the synagogue


4. a large number of converted slaves



VI. THE PURPOSE OF THE LETTER



A. Paul heard of the problems that had developed at Corinth from four sources

1. Chloe's people, 1 Cor. 1:11

2. a letter from the church asking questions, 1 Cor. 7:1,25; 8:1; 12:1; 16:1,12

3. a personal visit from Stephanas, Fortunatus, and Achaicus, 1 Cor. 16:17

It is possible that the letter (#2) was brought by these men (#3).



It is interesting that Murry Harris has outlined the book of 1 Corinthians based on Paul's received information about the church.

1. oral report from members of Chloe's household, resulting in Paul writing chapters 1 Corinthians 1-4

2. oral report from church representatives (i.e., , Stephanus, Fortunatus, and Achaicus), resulting in chapters 1 Corinthians 5-6

3. written questions from the church, resulting in chapters 1 Corinthians 7-16



B. The church had become factious, advocating different leaders: Paul, Apollos, Peter, and possibly a Christ party (cf. 1 Cor. 1:12). Not only was the church divided over leadership types, but also over several moral issues and the use of spiritual gifts. A main point of contention was Paul's Apostolic authority (especially 2 Corinthians)!

BRIEF OUTLINE OF 1 CORINTHIANS



A. Introduction 1 Cor. 1:1-9

1. Greeting, 1 Cor. 1:1-3

2. Thanksgiving, 1 Cor. 1:4-9



B. Reported problems at Corinth, 1 Cor. 1:10-6:20

1. Factions within the church because of the misunderstanding of Christian leadership's (i.e., , Paul, Apollos, Peter) motives and message, 1 Cor. 1:10-4:12

2. Shocking immorality, 1 Cor. 5:1-13

3. Christian lawsuits, 1 Cor. 6:1-11

4. Christian freedom limited by responsibility, 1 Cor. 6:12-20



C. A letter from Corinth asking the nagging questions, 1 Cor. 7:1-1-16:4

1. Human sexuality, 1 Cor. 7:1-40

2. Relationship to an idolatrous culture and Christian freedom, 1 Cor. 8:1-11:1

3. Christian worship and spirituality, 1 Cor. 11:2-14:40

4. Insights on eschatology, especially the resurrection, 1 Cor. 15:1-58

5. The contribution for the mother church in Jerusalem, 1 Cor. 16:1-4



D. Concluding remarks

1. Paul's (and his fellow ministers) travel plans, 1 Cor. 16:5-12

2. Final exhortation and greetings, 1 Cor. 16:13-24

This has nothing to do with "Jews" infiltrating the Church--at Corinth
 

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I didn’t live in that age. Jesus made it so that I can know a living father. Corinth was invaded by judaizers, you should probably read it again. They were trying to assassinate his character. Do you think there were all gentile Christian’s at Corinth?

There were Jews dispersed all throughout the regions.
So again I ask you. What did Jesus death do for you?

Will you be in heaven since there were no written ordinances against you? You do not have to pay for your sins?

did John the Baptist say behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the jews? Or did he say the world?
 
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So again I ask you. What did Jesus death do for you?

Will you be in heaven since there were no ordained es against you? You do not have to pay for your sins?

did John the Baptist say behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the jews? Or did he say the world?
Asking questions is good, wholesome and usually brings out the hidden motifs into light--

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
 
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Asking questions is good, wholesome and usually brings out the hidden motifs into light--

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
 
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Asking questions is good, wholesome and usually brings out the hidden motifs into light--

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
I ask so we can all think and look at something, and make sure we understand it. Not to try to get to some hidden motive.. If thats all we are doing we will never get anywhere. It’s not me against them.
 
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So again I ask you. What did Jesus death do for you?

Will you be in heaven since there were no written ordinances against you? You do not have to pay for your sins?

did John the Baptist say behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the jews? Or did he say the world?
I’ve already stated what his death did for me, but your to busy digging this ditch to read it.

I will not be in your fantasy version of HEAVEN.

Jesus made it very clear what the world was.

John 18:20-21 KJV
[20] Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. [21] Why askest thou me? ask them which heard me, what I have said unto them: behold, they know what I said.
 

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I ask so we can all think and look at something, and make sure we understand it. Not to try to get to some hidden motive.. If thats all we are doing we will never get anywhere. It’s not me against them.
Its not a matter of who is right or wrong. What we have here is TRUTH is on trial. And men are defending their pet doctrines which take precedent over Scripture. We have at best proof-texting by many.

A text without the context is a pretext for a proof text. Many are ripping a verse from its immediate context to support a false teaching which not only contradicts the immediate context but also the over-all context of Scripture. It happens all of the time and cults use this same method to deceive others.

And there are also many here who use Gods word in a productive way with lots of biblical support for their beliefs with plenty of Scripture that agrees with their premise. Its why precept upon precept, scripture upon scripture is a foundational principle. The Bible doesn't contradict itself.
 
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Its not a matter of who is right or wrong. What we have here is TRUTH is on trial. And men are defending their pet doctrines which take precedent over Scripture. We have at best proof-texting by many.

A text without the context is a pretext for a proof text. Many are ripping a verse from its immediate context to support a false teaching which not only contradicts the immediate context but also the over-all context of Scripture. It happens all of the time and cults use this same method to deceive others.

And there are also many here who use Gods word in a productive way with lots of biblical support for their beliefs with plenty of Scripture that agrees with their premise. Its why precept upon precept, scripture upon scripture is a foundational principle. The Bible doesn't contradict itself.
This is laughable coming from a cessasionist and dispensationalist who doesn't consider the Old Testament to be part of the bible...and who thinks the words of Jesus are "obsolete." Don't let anyone be fooled by this imposter.
 

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I’ve already stated what his death did for me, but your to busy digging this ditch to read it.

I will not be in your fantasy version of HEAVEN.

Jesus made it very clear what the world was.

John 18:20-21 KJV
[20] Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. [21] Why askest thou me? ask them which heard me, what I have said unto them: behold, they know what I said.
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I ask so we can all think and look at something, and make sure we understand it. Not to try to get to some hidden motive.. If thats all we are doing we will never get anywhere. It’s not me against them.
You won’t be able to understand a word I’m saying because it can’t be found in commentary.
 

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I’ve already stated what his death did for me, but your to busy digging this ditch to read it.

I will not be in your fantasy version of HEAVEN.

Jesus made it very clear what the world was.

John 18:20-21 KJV
[20] Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. [21] Why askest thou me? ask them which heard me, what I have said unto them: behold, they know what I said.
Agree that in this instance Jesus was referring to the unbelieving Jews, and He referred to them as the world because they were unbelieving. But just a heads-up here, that we need to be careful with words in scripture because the same word can be referring to different things. Eg, the word "world" is sometimes referring to the Gentile nations as opposed to the Jews/Israel. (Same goes for the word "perfect" as well, it is not always referring to the same sense of the word.)
 

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This is laughable coming from a cessasionist and dispensationalist who doesn't consider the Old Testament to be part of the bible...and who thinks the words of Jesus are "obsolete." Don't let anyone be fooled by this imposter.
More falsehoods. We have 66 inspired books in the Bible- All scripture is profitable for teaching, reproof and correction. Jesus words are Eternal which is why I quote Jesus and point to Him all of the time and not myself as you do mr self proclaimed prophet. Nice try with your slander once again and bearing false witness. Since you cannot refute me with the Bible and you never answer a direct question you make personal attacks- ad hominems which are a sure sigh of defeat.

hope this helps !!!
 
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More falsehoods. We have 66 inspired books in the Bible- All scripture is profitable for teaching, reproof and correction. Jesus words are Eternal which is why I quote Jesus and point to Him all of the time and not myself as you do mr self proclaimed prophet.

Nice try. Anyone who reads your posts sees the religious posturing meant to fool people into thinking you have a clue about what you are talking about.
Nice try with your slander once again and bearing false witness.

Anyone who can read will see your equivocations.
Since you cannot refute me with the Bible and you never answer a direct question you make personal attacks- ad hominems which are a sure sigh of defeat.
Dishonesty must be called out...
 

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Agree that in this instance Jesus was referring to the unbelieving Jews, and He referred to them as the world because they were unbelieving. But just a heads-up here, that we need to be careful with words in scripture because the same word can be referring to different things. Eg, the word "world" is sometimes referring to the Gentile nations as opposed to the Jews/Israel. (Same goes for the word "perfect" as well, it is not always referring to the same sense of the word.)
You do realize an age ended and a new age began?
 

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That's not what I'm saying--but it is helpful to think analytically and critically if what we post is the truth, as written in Scriptures--and not falsehood, accountability is of the utmost importance--
You’re a ditch digger. Plain and simple!
 

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Nice try. Anyone who reads your posts sees the religious posturing meant to fool people into thinking you have a clue about what you are talking about.


Anyone who can read will see your equivocations.

Dishonesty must be called out...
Then call yourself out since your personal attacks on me are dishonest. 90% of what I post is Scripture with a few comments.My opinions are formed from Scripture and you do just the opposite form scripture around your ideas, opinions and experience. That is the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches.

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