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Haven't I explained these why's before? Then stupid me falls into the trap of re-explaining.

If you’ve already explained why you want something you don’t believe is real (ie. Mr or Miss universe) to kill you, my apologies. Whatever the reason, it’s madness.
 

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If you’ve already explained why you want something you don’t believe is real (ie. Mr or Miss universe) to kill you, my apologies. Whatever the reason, it’s madness.
Alright Matthew.
 

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What started to convince me how my beliefs caused my knowledge breakdown, was when my daughter gave up her movie career in 2017. That was around the time we communicated briefly, ending in what I can only describe as world war 3. It must be that she couldn't continue the course her beliefs set her on (Beliefs being like a insulation for her fears) After that brief interaction her beliefs she cultivated were dispelled, and at the same time my own beliefs left me. I am happy now that whole drama happened, or else I would be still back there doing and believing the exact same things.

What else can I say to her :)
I.O.U
 
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Thanks @Ziggy I like that you liked it.
I'm not offended about what he said about Australia. I've got to watch that clip again, yeah.
 

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Jesus is a cult leader, in the best sense of the word.

Just for the record, I strongly advise people to read widely, read deeply, read thoughtfully and read critically. In other words, to look everywhere.

P.S.

Have you looked at the evidence for the historical existence of Jesus?
Yet you haven't even read the 100s (1000s?) of works of the philosophers that describe alchemy and the wonderful substance Jesus had access to ! Go figure.

Any evidence of Jesus as an historical figure is somewhat moot. It would confirm him to be a man, a human. None of the other made up fantasy and myth would be given any credibility by Jesus being a true historical figure. Let's say we prove that Hercules was a true historical figure. That in no way adds credibility to the myths about him doing incredible feats. Fact - fiction. History - Mythology.
 
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I must share this:
What's a wiggle? LOL

My daughter is 43. She calls me a couple times a month to say hello. It always starts out good. Hey, how you doin?
After 10 minutes we begin arguing about politics. She's liberal in most things and conservative in some.
She despises religion. Believes there is "something" out there but not a God. She believes we are a virus on the planet like a cancer eating away all the resources. But she knows what a woman is. Believes there are 2 genders. I suppose that's good.
She was into wiccan for a while some years ago, but got bored with that. Now she's a stay at home mom working in her garden raising my autistic 20 year old grandson who still goes to school to learn life skills.
We always end off the conversation with I love you and talk to you again soon.
But getting from Hey how are you to I love you talk again soon, can be a challenge. LOL
She hasn't had an easy life, but her sense of humour is unique. Specially when I'm trying to be serious and she makes a joke out of it.
We talk sometimes for 3 hours and most of it is usually arguing about the injustices of mankind, of which I agree but see it from a different angle. She is surrounded by democrats so I'm the odd one.
I think we try to convince each other that the other is right. And sometimes we both win or lose.
She only lives 4 hours away but I haven't seen her in years.
I was 13 when I got pregnant with her. The only pregnancy I ever had. I believe God turned a bad thing into a good thing and gave me a precious gift. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't change it. Maybe I wouldn't have gotten married to a man that just saw us a tax right offs. Maybe I would of gotten a job that kept me home more to raise her instead of being a latch key kid.
But I think it all made her stronger, and an independent thinker.
She's always there when I need her.

Kids are hard. And parenting can be hard.
I found that ending the conversation with I love you no matter what keeps the communication flowing.

Just sharing..
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Yep. All my beliefs are not facts.
There is more honesty in this one post than there is in every thread in this entire Non-Christian Discussion section.

If only the hoodwinked zealots could have even a shred of this honesty !
 

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My daughter believes we were "invented" by the Annuaki who needed slaves to dig for gold and other resources.
The Annunaki are the gods of this world.
I watch these people at the top of the pyramid dictating peace and war, prosperity and famine at their will.
I have a hard time believing they are human. I believe they are demons wearing masks.
They are spawning little demons all over the world.
They give themselves titles like psychologists and psychiatrists, doctors and scientists.
But their goal is to keep a certain amount of slaves to do their bidding.
This population growth really gets under their skin, they have a hard time controlling too many people.
Thus we have manufactured wars and food shortages which they blame on climate change to cover their own greed.
I'm not opposed to this idea. I just believe that there is a God that is greater than these gods.
And in time, what goes around comes around and they get cast out.
Somehow they always sneak back in even after the whole world is flooded.
Like a snake in paradise, they always manage to find a crack to slip into.

So they create CERN to open portals to other dimensions to enter into this one.
I don't think it's coincidence that when they turned CERN on the world got infested with LGBTQism.
Just sayin..

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I do believe that the book of Genesis is mostly allegorical, specially when it comes to Adam and Eve.
Correct
It's a simplistic way of explaining human nature. A child's bedtime story. But there is truth in it. We wanted something that didn't belong to us and we took it. That's basically the conclusion of the matter.
No it isn't
We are all born to die. Dying begins with the first breath you take and the aging process begins.
There are no escaping laws.
Not true. You're still locked into the Matrix thinking you were indoctrinated with from birth

Now Moses who wrote the first 5 books of the Bible, He says it was God. That God showed himself to him and spoke to him out of a burning bush that was not consumed.
Myth. Moses used the power of myth as a way to control others.

Jesus went up against the religious establishment of his day because it was becoming too worldly. They lost their independence and began to rely on the world for it's existence. That got knocked down in 70 AD but it wasn't destroyed, just punished.
Jesus got killed for being an agitator. Despite him the Roman empire flourished and ruled for 100s of years.


What we are witnessing is a return to the days of Noah just prior to the flood. And it's coming. NCSWIC.
Revolution can stop it but people need to wake up out of their brainwashed conditioned state but just looking at people on this site you can see it's not likely to happen. People don't want to concede they've been duped, just like millions don't want to believe that they've killed themselves by taking the vaccine.

Noah didn't have a bible.
But he did have the Stone which enabled him to live 900+ yrs. You learn a lot about the world in 900 years. Knowledge is power.

What I do find disagreeable is when a religious organization or the world try to get me to bend to do their will, rather than follow the example we were given to follow.

This is the right way to think. The church is lying, peddling a system of control using a bastardised censored and edited version of the Bible to do it.


I don't follow a religion, I follow Jesus.
And the only one that can expel me is the world. And I'm ok with that.
Then follow his warnings about the White and Red Stones and all the numerous other Biblical references to them
 

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You should listen to her before you waste your entire life in a system of control
We live in a world that is controlled. The system is rigged. The only escape is death.
The only control you have is what you believe and what you do with that belief.
You eat what they put on the shelves. They allow you to live on land as long as you pay taxes.
You watch what they program on the tv. They control the money.

The question is, do you submit to their beliefs or strike out on your own.
There are two belief controls. You either believe there is a God controlling everything and everything has a purpose, or you believe what the world tells you to believe. That they are right even when their wrong, and if you go against their beliefs they attack you.
I prefer to be a Christian rather than a heathen.
I get to choose whose control I put myself under, even if it comes at a cost of going against the world and it's beliefs.


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Jesus got killed for being an agitator. Despite him the Roman empire flourished and ruled for 100s of years.
Jesus' purpose was to elevate our thinking. He didn't come to save a material world He came to save our spiritual beliefs.
He came to provide a way to escape the Matrix.

Myth. Moses used the power of myth as a way to control others.

I have my own issues with Moses. He knew everything the Egyptians knew. He knew all the same magic tricks, alchemy, even governing.
The book of Jashur sheds a lot more light on the life of Moses than the bible does. And then he listened to his father in law Jethro who was a Midianite as to how to construct the pyramid of lawyers.
Moses killed an Egyptian and fled from Egypt after being found out. Would he of fled if he had killed a Hebrew?
I don't believe he would of been punished for that.
He knew Egypt would never be his to rule when Pharoah had his own son to take over.
I believe Egypt was overrun by other armies that were oppsed to Pharoah, and that putting blood on the doors was a sign to those armies that they were untouchables for Moses' purpose.

I'm only 58 years old in a week lol, I'm not 900 years. But what I've come to learn in the last 6 years of how the world and wars are manipulated by greed and power, gives a whole different perspective on biblical accounts.
I believe everything in the bible is true, it's the lens we look through when we read it that's obscure.

Archeologists have recently found the actual passage through the Red Sea with all kinds of chariot paraphanelia at the bottom.
They also located the remains of Noahs Ark between the mountains of Ararat (sp?) with the iron beams that held the skeleton of the ship together. I believe there is a lot of historical facts in the bible. They also found the remains of Sodom and Gomorrah and the pellets of white stones like sulfur that rained down upon them. Nowhere else on earth is this sulfur white rock found.

I don't have a problem with actual miracles. I've witnessed a few myself through the years. I should of been dead long ago.
But by the grace of God I'm still here.
It's the intentions of man that I question.

The Matrix keeps your mind in the status quo. Jesus makes you think higher and lower and wider, at the motives behind human nature.
When Jesus started questioning Moses' teachings... Ye have heard it said in Moses Law, But I say.......
That's when I began to question too.
Jesus never said it was God's law, He said it was Moses' law.

Mat 5:21
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:27
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:33
Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:38
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Mat 5:43
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

Mat 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

So I question Moses' motives. Because Jesus said BUT....
That's critical thinking right there and independent thought. The beginning of the unshackling of the Matrix.

And a new day came, and a new movement began. And those who were under Moses' authority were set free, the same way they had been set free from Pharoah. Now we come under the authority of Jesus. And I like having him as my King. And an example that is good to follow.
I don't have to stone people because they pick up sticks. I don't have to go to war to kill people for selfish gain.
I don't have to rely on money for my happiness. And I don't have to be a false accuser to save my own skin.

I don't want to rule the world. I just want to live in peace and harmony.
And Jesus gives me that.

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What's a wiggle? LOL

My daughter is 43. She calls me a couple times a month to say hello. It always starts out good. Hey, how you doin?
After 10 minutes we begin arguing about politics. She's liberal in most things and conservative in some.
She despises religion. Believes there is "something" out there but not a God. She believes we are a virus on the planet like a cancer eating away all the resources. But she knows what a woman is. Believes there are 2 genders. I suppose that's good.
She was into wiccan for a while some years ago, but got bored with that. Now she's a stay at home mom working in her garden raising my autistic 20 year old grandson who still goes to school to learn life skills.
We always end off the conversation with I love you and talk to you again soon.
But getting from Hey how are you to I love you talk again soon, can be a challenge. LOL
She hasn't had an easy life, but her sense of humour is unique. Specially when I'm trying to be serious and she makes a joke out of it.
We talk sometimes for 3 hours and most of it is usually arguing about the injustices of mankind, of which I agree but see it from a different angle. She is surrounded by democrats so I'm the odd one.
I think we try to convince each other that the other is right. And sometimes we both win or lose.
She only lives 4 hours away but I haven't seen her in years.
I was 13 when I got pregnant with her. The only pregnancy I ever had. I believe God turned a bad thing into a good thing and gave me a precious gift. If I had it to do over again I wouldn't change it. Maybe I wouldn't have gotten married to a man that just saw us a tax right offs. Maybe I would of gotten a job that kept me home more to raise her instead of being a latch key kid.
But I think it all made her stronger, and an independent thinker.
She's always there when I need her.

Kids are hard. And parenting can be hard.
I found that ending the conversation with I love you no matter what keeps the communication flowing.

Just sharing..
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What is love? I haven't got a clue. My whole life people telling me what love is, where love is, who love is, who I should love, who I shouldn't love, and love myself. So what is love? Because I haven't got a clue.