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If you want to sign onto that kind of spirit, it's your choice. Sadly, what I've found is that people who boast and cut other Christians down like this do so to elevate themselves to obtain followers like you.

What you've "found" is that you like to hear yourself Post.
And the reality is....what i said is True, tho it was not to boast, it was only to remind Johann, that what im doing here, is what He calls "works'.
He has this bizarre idea that my Thread is trying to deny or overlook, or just ignore.... that we are to "present our body a living Sacrifice".
So strange.

Now, Look at this "boasting"..
More of that "Paul stuff" you've never read.

Paul said..

""
But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all the other Apostles—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. """""
 
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God is a Spirit (pneuma ho theos). More precisely, “God is Spirit” as “God is Light” (


God is the Holy Spirit.

The Devil's spirit is NOT the SAME.

You are smart enough to realize this?
Im hoping.

Listen...

God BREATHED the Holy Spirit into ADAM........not "Light".

Jesus in John 20:22 BREATHED on the Apostles and said "receive you the HOLY Spirit".

That is not "light".

Jesus told them that the Holy Spirit was going to come to them, = Pentecost.

Is that Spirit the same that is in the DEVIL?

Are you in your right mind?
What are you trying to teach now, Johann.


Paul said....>"if you have not the Spirit, then you are not born again, a Christian".

Paul teaches that "Jesus IS THAT SPIRIT"..


Is that the same one that is in a DOG or in SATAN?


So, you are just the most confused believer.
I had no idea., you were so.
Its sad.
 
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“…Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.” (John 5:14)
The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.

“Put to death, then, your members that [are] upon the earth — whoredom, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and the covetousness, which is idolatry — because of which things cometh the anger of God upon the sons of the disobedience, in which also ye — ye did walk once, when ye lived in them; but now put off, even ye, the whole — anger, wrath, malice, evil-speaking, filthy talking — out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, having put off the old man with his practices, and having put on the new, which is renewed in regard to knowledge, after the image of Him who did create him; where there is not Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, foreigner, Scythian, servant, freeman — but the all and in all — Christ. Put on, therefore, as choice ones of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humble-mindedness, meekness, long-suffering, forbearing one another, and forgiving each other, if any one with any one may have a quarrel, as also the Christ did forgive you — so also ye; and above all these things, [have] love, which is a bond of the perfection, and let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also ye were called in one body, and become thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing each other, in psalms, and hymns, and spiritual songs, in grace singing in your hearts to the Lord; and all, whatever ye may do in word or in work, [do] all things in the name of the Lord Jesus — giving thanks to the God and Father, through him.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3‬:‭5‬-‭17‬ ‭YLT98‬‬



I still sin… sometimes. And one as to be honest about it with themself and God.

This John writes is talking about our flesh in my opinion.

8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 

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The NIV would have the priests splashing the blood around like immature children:

Exodus 29:16 NIV - take the blood and splash it against the sides of the altar

Where as the KJV more appropriately uses the word sprinkle, which is much more reverent:

Exodus 29:16 KJV - take his blood, and sprinkle it round about upon the altar

But then the NIV uses sprinkled in the New Testament:

1 Peter 1:2 NIV - be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood

It amazes how people cannot see deficiencies like these in nearly every modern translation…

Yes.

And you have Randy Kluth and JimB, both cheerleading this horrible translation, ....Randy was saying it is 'Older" Texts, that created it..... or something like that which falsey suggests that this is why it must be good one.

So, Ridiculous.

I use a few bibles, but that one......Its made for the Dumpster.

Randy will be here tomorrow im sure, defending that garbage.
And that garbage, will ruin your faith.
Its that bad of a version.

Oddly, its the Charismatic/Pentecostal favorite version.
The Baptist's favor the ASV or the NKJV.
 
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The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.


Here is something to know..

If you are dead, you can't sin.
Agree?

And regarding the born again, "our old man of sin, is crucified with Christ".

Its DEAD.

He that is dead, is freed from sin.

"being now Made free from sin".... is to be born again, as a "new Creation in Christ".


If you do a deep dive into Paul's epistles, you will find that he says that a believer commits "works of the Flesh".

Why does he say that?

Because its the LAW that defines deeds as sin......... and the born again are "not under the Law, but under Grace'""
This means that the Law has no POWER or DOMINION to define a born again Christian, at all.

The Born again are only defined by Grace......>"Not under the Law, but Under Grace".
 

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I still sin… sometimes. And one as to be honest about it with themself and God.

Christians who cannot cease from sin are these:

“Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray…” (2 Peter 2:14-15)
 

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I use a few bibles, but that one......Its made for the Dumpster.

Hopefully not the ESV.

It’s worse!

They would have the priests THROWING the blood!!

“…you shall kill the ram and shall take its blood and throw it against the sides of the altar.” (Exodus 29:16 ESV)
 

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Biblical faith is not a ticket to heaven or an insurance policy. It is a personal relationship. This is the purpose of creation, humans being made in the image and likeness (cf. Gen. 1:26-27) of God. The issue is "intimacy." God desires fellowship, not a certain theological standing! But fellowship with a holy God demands that the children demonstrate the "family" characteristics (i.e., holiness, cf. Lev. 19:2; Matt. 5:48; 1 Pet. 1:15-16). The Fall (cf. Genesis 3) affected our ability to respond appropriately. Therefore, God acted on our behalf (cf. Ezek. 36:27-38), giving us a "new heart" and a "new spirit," which enables us through faith and repentance to fellowship with Him and obey Him!

All three are crucial. All three must be maintained. The goal is to know God (both Hebrew and Greek senses) and to reflect His character in our lives. The goal of faith is not heaven someday, but Christlikeness every day!
I've read this a dozen times or more, I like it better each time!

Much love!
 
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God is the Holy Spirit.

The Devil's spirit is NOT the SAME.

You are smart enough to realize this?
Im hoping.

Listen...

God BREATHED the Holy Spirit into ADAM........not "Light".

Jesus in John 20:22 BREATHED on the Apostles and said "receive you the HOLY Spirit".

That is not "light".

Jesus told them that the Holy Spirit was going to come to them, = Pentecost.

Is that Spirit the same that is in the DEVIL?

Are you in your right mind?
What are you trying to teach now, Johann.


Paul said....>"if you have not the Spirit, then you are not born again, a Christian".

Paul teaches that "Jesus IS THAT SPIRIT"..


Is that the same one that is in a DOG or in SATAN?


So, you are just the most confused believer.
I had no idea., you were so.
Its sad.
You keep on misrepresenting everything I say or post-

Again-God is a Spirit (pneuma ho theos). More precisely, “God is Spirit” as “God is Light” (1Jn_1:5), “God is Love” (1Jn_4:8). In neither case can we read Spirit is God, Light is God, Love is God. The non-corporeality of God is clearly stated and the personality of God also. All this is put in three words for the first time.

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1) "God is a Spirit:”- (pneuma ho theos) "God (is, exists as) Spirit," in essence of or in His essential existing nature of being. The trinitarian or Elohim, one true God is Spirit, eternal, Heb_9:14, in contrast with lifeless forms of idol gods, Psa_115:1-11; 1Co_3:17.

Better still-

Hashem is Ruach (Spirit)
and it is necessary for the ones worshiping Him to worship in Ruach and Emes. [Ezek 36:26-27; 37:14]

Do you have a problem with your reading comprehension? Why do you speak in such a condescendingly manner?
 
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Dialectic (Greek: διαλεκτική, dialektikḗ; related to dialogue; German: Dialektik), also known as the dialectical method, is a discourse between two or more people holding different points of view about a subject but wishing to establish the truth through reasoned argumentation.
I think his use of the word was just a trigger to me, the real red flag is "Hegelian Dialectic". That's the one that seeks to change truth to a lie.

Much love!
 
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Hopefully not the ESV.

It’s worse!

They would have the priests THROWING the blood!!

“…you shall kill the ram and shall take its blood and throw it against the sides of the altar.” (Exodus 29:16 ESV)


Have you read the Homosexual Bible?

The Queen James Version?

You can imagine what it does with Romans 1 that is a NT letter that denies homosexuality, in this case (male)... as normal, or moral.


Have you read "The Satanic Bible?

It has one "law" in it"

"Do what tho wilt, shall be the whole of the law".
 

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Christians who cannot cease from sin are these:

“Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray…” (2 Peter 2:14-15)

“And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides destructive sects, and the Master who bought them denying, bringing to themselves quick destruction, and many shall follow out their destructive ways, because of whom the way of the truth shall be evil spoken of, and in covetousness, with moulded words, of you they shall make merchandise, whose judgment of old is not idle, and their destruction doth not slumber. For if God messengers who sinned did not spare, but with chains of thick gloom, having cast [them] down to Tartarus, did deliver [them] to judgment, having been reserved, and the old world did not spare, but the eighth person, Noah, of righteousness a preacher, did keep, a flood on the world of the impious having brought, and the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah having turned to ashes, with an overthrow did condemn, an example to those about to be impious having set [them]; and righteous Lot, worn down by the conduct in lasciviousness of the impious, He did rescue, for in seeing and hearing, the righteous man, dwelling among them, day by day the righteous soul with unlawful works was harassing. The Lord hath known to rescue pious ones out of temptation, and unrighteous ones to a day of judgment, being punished, to keep, and chiefly those going behind the flesh in desire of uncleanness, and Lordship despising; presumptuous, self-complacent, dignities they are not afraid to speak evil of, whereas messengers, in strength and power being greater, do not bear against them before the Lord an evil speaking judgment; and these, as irrational natural beasts, made to be caught and destroyed — in what things they are ignorant of, speaking evil — in their destruction shall be destroyed, about to receive a reward of unrighteousness, pleasures counting the luxury in the day, spots and blemishes, luxuriating in their deceits, feasting with you, having eyes full of adultery, and unable to cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having an heart exercised in covetousnesses, children of a curse, having forsaken a right way, they did go astray, having followed in the way of Balaam the [son] of Bosor, who a reward of unrighteousness did love, and had a rebuke of his own iniquity — a dumb ass, in man's voice having spoken, did forbid the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, and clouds by a tempest driven, to whom the thick gloom of the darkness to the age hath been kept; for overswellings of vanity speaking, they do entice in desires of the flesh — lasciviousnesses, those who had truly escaped from those conducting themselves in error, liberty to them promising, themselves being servants of the corruption, for by whom any one hath been overcome, to this one also he hath been brought to servitude, for, if having escaped from the pollutions of the world, in the acknowledging of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and by these again being entangled, they have been overcome, become to them hath the last things worse than the first, for it were better to them not to have acknowledged the way of the righteousness, than having acknowledged [it], to turn back from the holy command delivered to them, and happened to them hath that of the true similitude; ‘A dog did turn back upon his own vomit,’ and, ‘A sow having bathed herself — to rolling in mire.’”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2‬:‭1‬-‭22‬ ‭YLT98‬‬
 

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That was a sign of the times for the end to come, the end of that age. Israel had became so deprived of the ways of God and Peter is writing to Jewish people of that time.
 

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You keep on misrepresenting everything I say or post-

Again-God is a Spirit

I actually dont misrepresent you, or anyone.
I post what you wrote, and then i respond to it.

Now, when i wrote my post that stated that the NIV, denies that there is a difference between God's Holy Spirit, and all others........
The NIV says..>"GOD is Spirit".

You then ran in here with this..
I'll quote you.

You said..

More precisely, “God is Spirit”

So, you stated the NIV verse....... and now you have posted again... and changed that to.... "God is A Spirit"........You corrected your own post, while also saying that i misrepresent you.

But i didnt.
I posted what you wrote, that you have now changed while accusing me falsely, again.
 
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Because its the LAW that defines deeds as sin......... and the born again are "not under the Law, but under Grace'"" [therefore they are presumably sinlessly perfect -- my note]
More nonsense from Behold. Before the Law defined sin, sin was in the world. And after a person is born again the sin nature is NOT eradicated. So you do in fact sin, but you refuse to admit it to yourself and to God. Which means that you deceive yourself and you make God a liar. How many times do you have to be reminded that you are promotIng a FALSE THEOLOGY. The very fact that you refuse to repent of your false theology is a sin.
 

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God gave the law . He aint the one that delivers us into sin .
Yes, God gave the Law, however,

Romans 7:5 KJV
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

Romans 7:7-13 KJV
7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8) But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9) For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10) And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11) For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

Sin was there without the Law, but the Law was like gasoline on a fire.

Much love!
 

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Who follows the way of balaam
Today?

Id say that some Prosperity Preachers use the bible, the gospel, to enrich themselves.

Not all.

Here is the thing about money and prosperity.
God wants you to prosper.
But we are not to serve the money......we are not to chase the riches...

Soloman had more money, more riches then Elon Musk or Bill Gates or the shareholders of "Apple Mac".

God gave it to him.

The BIBLE teaches that "Its God who gives you the POWER to get WEALTH".

God has no issue with money.
Man has the issue, reader.


Its a fact that "it cost's to reach the lost".
Its a fact that your church has Air Conditioning and Sound, and Light, and that is an ELECTRIC BILL.
It has to be PAID. = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

How can you TITHE or Give to the poor, if you have NO MONEY?
Does God want you to give to the poor?
Thats a yes, and there is a blessing of Health that will find you, if you give to the poor, consistently.

Do you own a car?
Gas isn't free.
Food costs money.


MONEY is not the sin........its the love of it, the worship of it.....its to trust in money, and not to Trust in God, is the problem.
 
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