Tommy Cool
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If you don’t mind, I think I will forgo the glasses …..as it appears the glasses encourage the beloved to adlib what they believe into the Word. And if I am going speculate on something... I will declare that it is speculation and give my reasons ….but I will never say it’s gospel. And my speculation will not contradict anything else in the Word…You also wont find the work. "Duck", "Deer" "Canadian Sunset"..."Marijuana", or " Dinosaur".
So, because these exact words are not in the Bible, does this mean you also "can't find them"?
So, really?
Try putting your thinking glasses on, Tommy.
Let me show you "pre-incarnate" JESUS.
"Iin the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God". "Jesus is the Word made FLESH" (Born of a Virgin)
Jesus said, "i am from ABOVE, and you Tommy, are from Below'"""
That is Heaven (above) and Below (earth)
So, Jesus was not a man, in Heaven, he was Pre-incarnate, as the "Word". Who is "the BREAD of HEAVEN" who "came down".
The Word declares Jesus as a man when He was on earth…. I cannot make that jump to the God/man thing…. it would contradict many scripture … I have quoted a few below.
Jhn 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, “a man” that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, “the man” Christ Jesus;
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure (see **) of him that was to come. (i.e. Jesus Christ)
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
**(Verse 14) The word “figure” (tupos) specifically denotes any kind of stamped or imprinted impression … it's where our English words "type" comes from.
The noun typically describes the instrument with which an impression is made…. but by extension also the thing impressed ….as a coin, a seal, but also the hollow mold of a cast statue, that imitates or replicates some original.
The word, (WORD) = (logos).... and in John_ 1:1 …it does NOT “AKA Jesus Christ”
Jesus Christ is not a lexicon definition of logos … or of Messiah.
It is used over 300 in the NT and translated into over 40 different words like: speech, stories, talking, report, truth, question, reply, rumor, flattery, account, grievance, conversation, command…..etc.
In the scripture the word logos has a wide range of meanings along two basic lines of thoughts. One is the mind and products of the mind …like reason, logic…etc.
The second is… The expression of that reason, as a word, saying or command…….etc.
The Word of God comes to us via written, spoken, or living …Jesus always did the Fathers will He was the living Word.
God was Christ Father ….Was He from above? …of course. Genetically perfect… sinless blood and while on earth He was, as he stated.... a man.