The Key to all the Parables of Jesus

[Mr E]

Once people are indoctrinated into believing that they are righteous and everyone else isn't...a Pharisaical practice takes over...that is very hard to undo.

To remedy this apostate behaviour, I suggest going to the cross.

Physician- heal thyself!

To remedy your condition, I suggest a laxative and going to the bathroom.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Scripture is full of examples that contradict your belief here. It’s full of instances where God communicates through dreams and parables alike- which are spiritual in nature, but where He enables some to understand. One could argue that the bulk of scripture from Genesis to Revelation is comprised of such examples.

God always explains the dream or parable to them. I can think of no example in scripture where he doesn't have to do that. Perhaps you could provide a reference to support your claim.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Are they resurrected from hell and judged then cast back to hell?

rev 20 : 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

If we read, it says those in hades were delivered. And it also says they were dead (as apposed to those who are alive in christ)

then is says they (all of them) where judged

then it says they (all of them) are cast into the lake of fire. (some call this hell)

then it calls this the second death, as this death will be irreversible

Sometimes we just have to stand back and look at the word of God. It does not say hell is resurrected. it does not say anything about resurrection period. It says they were delivered to Christ.

Those born of God will be resurrected by Christ. Those who are not born again will be delivered to him

huge difference

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What is lacking is basic reading skills. And basic honesty.

I agree,

if YOU and your buddy READ rev 20, you would see there is no mention of a resurrection. You would see they were not delivered from hell. but from Hades. and you would read they were sent to the lake of fire. not back to Hades.

If you were honest yourself. you would acknowledge this fact

 

[Mr E]

They say you shouldn't mix metaphors; does that guideline apply to parables too?

Absolutely not. He taught that you have to use the understanding he provided in explaining the weeds and seeds in order to understand the others. You have to understand the spiritual concepts he lays out in this first one and use that understanding when examining all the others.

 

[Episkopos]

I agree,

if YOU and your buddy READ rev 20, you would see there is no mention of a resurrection. You would see they were not delivered from hell. but from Hades. and you would read they were sent to the lake of fire. not back to Hades.

If you were honest yourself. you would acknowledge this fact

You are denying that anyone is written in the book of life...because of a bent that sees you get your jollies by condemning everyone to the lake of fire.

Morbid.

But the GWT judgment is indeed a resurrection...as the sea and Hades gives up their dead in order to judge them...where? at the GWT.

And why is the first resurrection called the "first resurrection".... if it's the only one?

Reading skills 101.

Try reading this without the blinders...

Rev. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


The "rest of the dead lived not again" means that they will be resurrected at the 2nd resurrection...at the GWT.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Being a schizophrenic I understand the dangers of symbolism all too well. Following your own interpretation of metaphores, parables and symbolism can lead to delusive ideas that simply aren't true.

 

[Mr E]

We see what the key is differently. Crazy maybe but about five years ago as I lay in bed one night, it was as if hearing His voice. Not an audible voice but it kept repeating all night where I could not turn it off, I couldn’t sleep. I won’t forget it. It was the same thing said over and over again. “I am the key that unlocks the parables.” Over and over “Christ is the key” …in “Learn of Me for I am lowly and of a humble Spirit” this wasn’t said but over and over “I am the Key.” It wouldn’t stop, no matter how much I tried to go to sleep. Maybe my subconscious had latched onto a thought and it kept me awake, but something did happen after in reading the parables with Christ as the lens, Christ as the center, the Key. To me it makes sense that He is the key. Because of even in the parable of the sower. It tells of a good heart and out from this New (not cursed)Ground, this New Creation of not cursed ground but able to receive the seed of God as the natural man cannot but Christ did …as His Heart and Mind (the Mind of Christ) did receive God, the Word, the seed planted of the Father …answers to me what He said must happen where He told His disciples why He spoke in parables, but that a time would come when He would no longer speak to them in parables; but show them plainly the Father and speak plainly to them no longer in parables. For me that puts an exclamation mark at the end of “how will you understand what I say unto you?” The answer being “you must be born anew of the Spirit of God.” “For it is The Spirit given of God.” The Spirit that was and is in Christ that reveals unto you what is the Mystery of the Kingdom of God, in the Son of God.

Know you not this parable? Then how will you know all parables?
By the Spirit of God, and not by men. “I am the Key.” “Learn of Me.” “Come all you heavy burdened and I will give you rest.” Then I will plainly show you the Father.

Wonderful. Read the prophecy of Isaiah 22:22 regarding this one who is the key. Referenced also in John’s book of revelation. (3:7)

 

[Mr E]

God always explains the dream or parable to them. I can think of no example in scripture where he doesn't have to do that. Perhaps you could provide a reference to support your claim.

‘My claim’ was that God enables them to understand.

 

[Mr E]

Being a schizophrenic I understand the dangers of symbolism all too well. Following your own interpretation of metaphores, parables and symbolism can lead to delusive ideas that simply aren't true.

That’s why you should use his, and not yours.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are denying that anyone is written in the book of life...because of a bent that sees you get your jollies by condemning everyone to the lake of fire.

I am denying that anyone is written?

once again, all we have to do is look to the word of God

Rev 20: 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Since all of Gods children will be resurrected by him to life. they must be written in the book of life

Morbid.

Yes I know. The truth is morbid to you,

But the GWT judgment is indeed a resurrection...as the sea and Hades gives up their dead in order to judge them...where? at the GWT.

It says they were DELIVERED TO HIM. it also says they were dead.. Those in Christ has been given the asurence they will raised by him, not delivered to him. And they are also ALIVE.. No living spirit is delivered to Christ. only those who are dead. because they have not been born again

And why is the first resurrection called the "first resurrection".... if it's the only one?

Reading skills 101.

Try reading this without the blinders...

Rev. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


The "rest of the dead lived not again" means that they will be resurrected at the 2nd resurrection...at the GWT.

This speaks of those who were raised by Christ when he returns to earth.. Christ will then reign 1000 years.. the GWT occurred after this period..

It also says the second death has no power..

If you did not think your eternity was based on your works. you could possibly understand this. But since you reject that one must be born again and made a child of God with the assurance of eternal life. this is lost on you

 

[Raccoon1010]

That’s why you should use his, and not yours.

Agreed.

 

[Episkopos]

I am denying that anyone is written?

once again, all we have to do is look to the word of God

Rev 20: 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Since all of Gods children will be resurrected by him to life. they must be written in the book of life



Yes I know. The truth is morbid to you,

It says they were DELIVERED TO HIM. it also says they were dead.. Those in Christ has been given the asurence they will raised by him, not delivered to him. And they are also ALIVE.. No living spirit is delivered to Christ. only those who are dead. because they have not been born again

This speaks of those who were raised by Christ when he returns to earth.. Christ will then reign 1000 years.. the GWT occurred after this period..

It also says the second death has no power..

If you did not think your eternity was based on your works. you could possibly understand this. But since you reject that one must be born again and made a child of God with the assurance of eternal life. this is lost on you

I keep forgetting what a waste of time it is trying to appeal to any logic with you....never mind prophetic things.

On ignore...

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I keep forgetting what a waste of time it is trying to appeal to any logic with you....never mind prophetic things.

On ignore...

Logic?

lol.. You ignore the word of God my friend.

Go ahead ignore me.. I will still expose you.

 

[Mr E]

Logic?

lol.. You ignore the word of God my friend.

Go ahead ignore me.. I will still expose you.

Agree with him, or be ignored. He desires a platform, not a dialogue. A sure sign of an over-inflated opinion of oneself. Narcissist in Chief perched upon his soapbox. You would think his little ‘podcast presentations’ would be enough, but the ego is a pit never filled, never satisfied.

Don’t think for a minute that he doesn’t read whatever you write, even though he says he has you (or anyone else) on ignore. He reads it. He cannot resist doing so. He feeds on any mention of his name.

He craves attention.

 

[MatthewG]

The Spirit is the Key.

You can read the bible with just earthly eyes, instead of spiritually lead by the Father.

 

[Episkopos]

The Spirit is the Key.

You can read the bible with just earthly eyes, instead of spiritually lead by the Father.

Yes. A carnal understanding stands in the way of eternal truth and life.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Agree with him, or be ignored. He desires a platform, not a dialogue. A sure sign of an over-inflated opinion of oneself. Narcissist in Chief perched upon his soapbox. You would think his little ‘podcast presentations’ would be enough, but the ego is a pit never filled, never satisfied.

He has been this way for many years through countless christian chat rooms.. Its to the point it is time to just speak for the benefit of others who may be swayed by him

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes. A carnal understanding stands in the way of eternal truth and life.

Yes.

So when are you going to repent and come to faith in Christ and receive his payment for your sins? by looking up to the cross as the jews looked up at the serpent in moses day?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Spirit is the Key.

You can read the bible with just earthly eyes, instead of spiritually lead by the Father.

the problem is. to many people all think they have the spirit.. Its one thing to say your listening to the spirit. there has to be a way to show who really is and who is not.