The Key to all the Parables of Jesus

[VictoryinJesus]

One's own righteousness can avoid curses and attract blessing as concerns THIS life, but it doesn't attain to eternal life.

You said:
“One’s own righteousness can avoid curses and attract blessing as concerns THIS life”
Love 2 Corinthians because it shows (Imo) a group of brethren in their own righteousness to avoid curses and to attract blessing… in cursing Paul they are attracting no blessing, but cursing instead. No matter how righteous they think they are and how blessed they claim they are…to me Paul (Christ speaking in Paul) is about the blow apart their own claims as Paul being the one who lacks power, the one who lacks Life, the one who remains dead in his sin and has not been made perfect”alive unto God” as they have. Paul (the Life I now Live, I Live by the power of God of Christ in me) is about to sling the door wide open …pulling down strong holds and bringing down every vain imagination that exalts itself against the knowledge of Christ.

Today, if this were to happen…Paul would be blamed as promoting working for salvation in the intreating of others to not be hearers only, but doers also. Because Paul is asking them for an active doing in “do not evil” “do no wrong” even though we be as reprobate, weak (crucified) among you, that you be made strong, that you be made complete in Him, that you be made whole in Him, this we wish and hope…even your perfection.

You are right. ^the above does not attain to Life but attains unto death and curing. See their own righteousness exalted above the knowledge of Christ…against Christ speaking in and through their brother, Paul. But IT IS NOT …do nothing brothers because this would be you trying to earn salvation. Instead it is … “do no wrong” “do no evil” even though we be as reprobate. They are doing already…if you would notice by doing wrong and evil and cursing against a brother crucified in weakness that they be made strong. Claiming they are righteous and Paul is weak. Paul says the opposite. That they are weak and need to be made strong. (As Peter was told; feed My Sheep, strengthen your brothers). Today, that (edification of others) is called workers for salvation. “Get away from it!!!” “Curse it!” “Warn it!” “Spit on that!”

They are Cursing. But Paul wants them to bless. Today, urging others to bless and to not curse (I’m not meaning bad words but truly cursing those we claim to love “for their own good” when that is an outright lie being for “our own good” and not theirs. As those attacking Paul said it was for Paul’s own good and not theirs. The evidence is clear who was for edification of the body of Christ, and who was for destroying it. today the urging to bless and not curse is said to be promoting working for salvation.

You said “but it doesn’t attain to eternal life” Paul shows “attaining to Life” in correction, discipline, warning, calling, pleading, patience, long-suffering, brotherly kindness …”be made strong” “let the dead be raised and come to Life” “Be you made Alive unto God” “let the Peace of God rule in your hearts” pulling down strong holds and every vain thought that exalts itself above the knowledge of Christ …today in a body of Christ, the church, Paul would be thrown out (in my opinion) straightway being told he is wrong to urge “do no wrong” “do what is right” even though we be as reprobate. With the tip of the nose of superiority, he would be accused of promoting something evil by wanting others to be strengthened in the doing of what they preach which is Christ. Would Paul be accused today of being a promoter of doing, by saying to not only hear but do?

 

[Lizbeth]

That makes sense to me.

Its simply like the seed put in the ground.

For us human beings… we have to make effort.

To continue to be grown up, even having some of our branches that come in and out of us back, which is where God prunes back.

Those who kept their lamp burning, kept seeking fot Jesus, and that oil they gather he contiuned to give thrm light.

The others did not; that is why they were told to go get more, because they have to make the effort cause your faith will not be accounted for by another person, just cause you followed them.

To be grounded and deeply rooted, building on top of the foundation laid out by jesus and his aposltes is to continue to have faith, and trust in God; and trust in the immovable, and unshakeable promises which are all spiritual.

Where as the flesh of man can fall- all their ideas… all their hopes, even their faith can be shaken.

But those who stand with the Lord and him whom makes them right before God doesnt need to worry as much, but continue to push, having faith and being moved by the spirit and building up ones faith, being renewed in their mind by the word… at least today.

Cause i dont expect to see jesus coming through the clouds but i do have a hope to see him just as everyone will who die and leave this earth.

Amen, it is on us to follow/obey, and as we do He is leading us to where He wants us to be....growing and increasing in Him. So important to obey His personal leading and will in our lives.

 

[Lizbeth]

You said:
“One’s own righteousness can avoid curses and attract blessing as concerns THIS life”
Love 2 Corinthians because it shows (Imo) a group of brethren in their own righteousness to avoid curses and to attract blessing… in cursing Paul they are attracting no blessing, but cursing instead. No matter how righteous they think they are and how blessed they claim they are…to me Paul (Christ speaking in Paul) is about the blow apart their own claims as Paul being the one who lacks power, the one who lacks Life, the one who remains dead in his sin and has not been made perfect”alive unto God” as they have. Paul (the Life I now Live, I Live by the power of God of Christ in me) is about to sling the door wide open …pulling down strong holds and bringing down every vain imagination that exalts itself against the knowledge of Christ.

Today, if this were to happen…Paul would be blamed as promoting working for salvation in the intreating of others to not be hearers only, but doers also. Because Paul is asking them for an active doing in “do not evil” “do no wrong” even though we be as reprobate, weak (crucified) among you, that you be made strong, that you be made complete in Him, that you be made whole in Him, this we wish and hope…even your perfection.

You are right. ^the above does not attain to Life but attains unto death and curing. See their own righteousness exalted above the knowledge of Christ…against Christ speaking in and through their brother, Paul. But IT IS NOT …do nothing brothers because this would be you trying to earn salvation. Instead it is … “do no wrong” “do no evil” even though we be as reprobate. They are doing already…if you would notice by doing wrong and evil and cursing against a brother crucified in weakness that they be made strong. Claiming they are righteous and Paul is weak. Paul says the opposite. That they are weak and need to be made strong. (As Peter was told; feed My Sheep, strengthen your brothers). Today, that (edification of others) is called workers for salvation. “Get away from it!!!” “Curse it!” “Warn it!” “Spit on that!”

They are Cursing. But Paul wants them to bless. Today, urging others to bless and to not curse (I’m not meaning bad words but truly cursing those we claim to love “for their own good” when that is an outright lie being for “our own good” and not theirs. As those attacking Paul said it was for Paul’s own good and not theirs. The evidence is clear who was for edification of the body of Christ, and who was for destroying it. today the urging to bless and not curse is said to be promoting working for salvation.

You said “but it doesn’t attain to eternal life” Paul shows “attaining to Life” in correction, discipline, warning, calling, pleading, patience, long-suffering, brotherly kindness …”be made strong” “let the dead be raised and come to Life” “Be you made Alive unto God” “let the Peace of God rule in your hearts” pulling down strong holds and every vain thought that exalts itself above the knowledge of Christ …today in a body of Christ, the church, Paul would be thrown out (in my opinion) straightway being told he is wrong to urge “do no wrong” “do what is right” even though we be as reprobate. With the tip of the nose of superiority, he would be accused of promoting something evil by wanting others to be strengthened in the doing of what they preach which is Christ.

It wasn't righteous to curse who God sent. So of course that did not turn to them for blessing but the opposite. Yes neither Paul nor Jesus would be accepted in many churches today, because they did a lot of warning and rebuking.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Yes, being ready and awake

That when He comes He finds doing?

What is “ready”? What is “awake”? You said He comes as a thief. He also said the thief comes not but to steal (hold fast what you have been given), kill (we are killed all day long yet behold we Live!), and destroy (we are cast down yet not destroyed!) …. “Ready” “awake” that I do not come upon you as a thief catching its prey (lame) unaware … “I come not to destroy but to save” …to prepare “ready” “awake” against the thief that in prepared beforehand “ready” “awake” ….where no thief approaches. “For their righteousness is of Me” says the LORD who is gracious and merciful knowing warning ….a thief comes but I come to save (edify) and not to destroy men. To give them A Hope. An inheritance. Clothing. Food. Armor to put on against what? …think about it “I come upon you as a thief” … “hold fast to what you have that no man takes it” …who is the thief, is Christ coming and is divided against Himself? who is the antichrist claiming…coming in His name…claiming to be Christ but is a hireling that cares not for the sheep?

 

[Episkopos]

Goodness, what bible are you reading Epi? He isn't 'winking' at it any more is He...?....but commands all men everywhere to repent of all this wrongdoing and turn to God in Christ. It is God you are accusing of being a "religious bigot", because this is HIS word not mine (and it isn't me who judges, but God....I once was a lost soul myself and only desire that others who are lost would be found as I was):

It likewise isn't me correcting you but God by the wisdom of His Spirit. You twist the meaning of words to justify your bigotry. Of course God winked in the past. But you condemn those people in the past. You are more condemning than God is. Simple fact.

Rom 1:18-25

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

You are holding the truth in unrighteousness. And you will be held accountable for that. You can't make people accountable to something they know nothing about. But you will be charged with justifying yourself by misappropriating the truth for yourself...in order to condemn others.

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

At an experience of initial grace many will know of God's existence. God reveals Himself to those whom He regenerates. Sure, these will stop sinning outwardly. They will stop smoking, swearing, drinking, carousing...etc. But many will take their sins to a deeper level. A religious level. So I warn people.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God,

When they knew God! This is the charge against misusing grace.

they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Exactly like so many modern believers.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

It wasn't righteous to curse who God sent. So of course that did not turn to them for blessing but the opposite. Yes neither Paul nor Jesus would be accepted in many churches today, because they did a lot of warning and rebuking.

Good grief Lizbeth. Warning and rebuking. Like a broken record…while claiming this is not in any way working for your own righteousness and salvation. In the warning and rebuke ..the never ending I’ll be damned if I don’t do as I was told to do which is to warn and rebuke…no wait don’t do any brotherly kindness …y’all hate warnings and rebuking…those are talking of doing anything else than warning and rebuking are promoting works of their own righteousness. Go ahead. Go to church. Sit in your pew. Preach it sister. Lead them all that will hear you into snobbery claiming it is the good stuff. The more needful things which are lacking …the churches are full of it. You’ll fit right in.

 

[Behold]

The foundation of eternal life is in Christ...not in us. It is where HE is...not already hiding somewhere in us.

Episkopos.....Your theology always teaches....

A.) """"I can do all things, through SELF""""..


Listen,

The verse : "Christ in you, the Hope of Glory" is not Jesus "hiding" in the believer, as you teach.

The Verse : we become the "Temple of the Holy Spirit". is not Jesus "hiding" in the believer, as you teach.

The Verse : "If you have not the Spirit of God in you, you are none of God's"... is not Jesus "hiding" in the believer., as you teach.

The word is CHRISTianity, because its started by Jesus and finished by God.

Philippians 1:6

WE don't do that, we receive what They have completed, as our Salvation, and we exit in God, as "one with God" and we then "present our bodies as a living sacrifice"....= not to try to attain righteousness, as we are already "made righteous".
So, we present ourselves to God,.... as Christ in the born again does this.. through us....

= "I can do ALL things through Christ".

= "CHRIST always gives me the Victory" over the world, the flesh, and the devil.

 

[Episkopos]

Episkopos.....Your theology always teaches....

A.) """"I can do all things, through SELF""""..


Listen,

The verse : "Christ in you, the Hope of Glory" is not Jesus "hiding" in the believer, as you teach.

The Verse : we become the "Temple of the Holy Spirit". is not Jesus "hiding" in the believer, as you teach.

The Verse : "If you have not the Spirit of God in you, you are none of God's"... is not Jesus "hiding" in the believer., as you teach.

The word is CHRISTianity, because its started by Jesus and finished by God.

Philippians 1:6

WE don't do that, we receive what They have completed, as our Salvation, and we exit in God, as "one with God" and we then "present our bodies as a living sacrifice"....= not to try to attain righteousness, as we are already "made righteous".
So, we present ourselves to God,.... as Christ in the born again does this.. through us....

= "I can do ALL things through Christ".

= "CHRIST always gives me the Victory" over the world, the flesh, and the devil.

Fully false and needless trolling. You do exactly what you accuse me of. Your religion is based on self and selfishness...claiming great things for yourself...but not according to the truth.

I preach the resurrected Christ. You watch videos of Jesus on the cross...and glory in His suffering.

You have a dead religion. It is based on death...not life.

 

[Behold]

Fully false and needless trolling. You do exactly what you accuse me of. Your religion is based on self and selfishness...claiming great things for yourself...but not according to the truth.

I preach the resurrected Christ. You watch videos of Jesus on the cross...and glory in His suffering.

You have a dead religion. It is based on death...not lif

Your Posts, and your Threads, prove that what you just posted, is not true.
And, Why you are so offended by the Cross of Christ .....that you say what you do,..... is proof of what you are, Episkopos.

You're own words are your judge, not me.

Your Threads, often go beyond 60 pages, and its nothing but people who understand the Grace of God, posting against your theology of 'here is what to do, what to perform, what to SELF EFFORT", in Place of God's Grace.
That's the reality.

Also, i made a Resurrection video that i created for Easter, that's true.

And i have no "religion". What i have is a eternal relationship with God, that was created for me by The Cross of Christ.
its really that simple.
And inside this born again relationship i have with God, through Christ, That is only based on the Cross and Kept by the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, im empowered by the Grace of God, as "Christ in you, the hope of Glory" to be able to understand and teach Paul's doctrine, and walk in the Spirit.

All of this is based on "the Gift of Salvation", and none of it is based on Me trying to perform for God to try to be accepted ...or kept... by God.

 

[Episkopos]

Your Posts, and your Threads, prove that what you just posted, is not true.
And, Why you are so offended by the Cross of Christ .....that you say what you do,..... is proof of what you are, Episkopos.

You're own words are your judge, not me.

Your Threads, often go beyond 60 pages, and its nothing but people who understand the Grace of God, posting against your theology of 'here is what to do, what to perform, what to SELF EFFORT", in Place of God's Grace.
That's the reality.

Also, i made a Resurrection video that i created for Easter, that's true.

And i have no "religion". What i have is a eternal relationship with God, that was created for me by The Cross of Christ.
its really that simple.
And inside this born again relationship i have with God, through Christ, That is only based on the Cross and Kept by the finished work of Jesus on the Cross, im empowered by the Grace of God, as "Christ in you, the hope of Glory" to be able to understand and teach Paul's doctrine, and walk in the Spirit.

All of this is based on "the Gift of Salvation", and none of it is based on Me trying to perform for God to try to be accepted by God.

Im not a LEGALIST.
You're post's define you as one.

Go to your own threads based on your religious legalism. Fool whoever you can. Stop trolling on my threads.

Haven't you exposed yourself enough?

or do you want me to come over to your threads to expose you?

 

[Lizbeth]

That when He comes He finds doing?

What is “ready”? What is “awake”? You said He comes as a thief. He also said the thief comes not but to steal (hold fast what you have been given), kill (we are killed all day long yet behold we Live!), and destroy (we are cast down yet not destroyed!) …. “Ready” “awake” that I do not come upon you as a thief catching its prey (lame) unaware … “I come not to destroy but to save” …to prepare “ready” “awake” against the thief that in prepared beforehand “ready” “awake” ….where no thief approaches. “For their righteousness is of Me” says the LORD who is gracious and merciful knowing warning ….a thief comes but I come to save (edify) and not to destroy men. To give them A Hope. An inheritance. Clothing. Food. Armor to put on against what? …think about it “I come upon you as a thief” … “hold fast to what you have that no man takes it” …who is the thief, is Christ coming and is divided against Himself? who is the antichrist claiming…coming in His name…claiming to be Christ but is a hireling that cares not for the sheep?

Yes, doing HIS will. "You have need of patience/perseverance that after you do the will of God you might receive the promise."

I don't say He is coming as a thief, the bible says that. Jesus said it. All I do is repeat what He said. We're supposed to speak His word.

It likewise isn't me correcting you but God by the wisdom of His Spirit. You twist the meaning of words to justify your bigotry. Of course God winked in the past. But you condemn those people in the past. You are more condemning than God is. Simple fact.


You are holding the truth in unrighteousness. And you will be held accountable for that. You can't make people accountable to something they know nothing about. But you will be charged with justifying yourself by misappropriating the truth for yourself...in order to condemn others.



At an experience of initial grace many will know of God's existence. God reveals Himself to those whom He regenerates. Sure, these will stop sinning outwardly. They will stop smoking, swearing, drinking, carousing...etc. But many will take their sins to a deeper level. A religious level. So I warn people.


When they knew God! This is the charge against misusing grace.


Exactly like so many modern believers.

You have no basis in fact at all for accusing me of condemning anyone.

Those scriptures I brought simply disprove that those who fear and worship false gods are fearing and worshipping the one true God thereby. It is the Lord who condemns the worship of false gods/idols, plain and simple. The worship of idols is EXCHANGING the truth of God for a LIE....because mankind once knew God and HE (not me) judges that the lost are without excuse. It's abhorrent that anyone would consider the worship of idols to be a righteous thing. If it were a righteous thing to do those who do it wouldn't be under such heavy bondages and curses. Look at Haiti for example, and places in Africa and India.

Watchman Nee back in the 1940's wrote about the outer man needing to be broken to release the inner man, but he did so without any need at all to destroy the foundations of the gospel as you are doing.

 

[Behold]

Go to your own threads based on your religious legalism. Fool whoever you can. Stop trolling on my threads.

Haven't you exposed yourself enough?

You were just on my "self righteousness" Thread.

So, be courteous and appreciate that im on yours, right now.

Listen,
Im all about exposure......absolutely.
Can you feel it?
Yes you can.
Its one of the reasons i am here on your Thread, and its one of the reasons i post so many of my own.

On yours, im here To expose myself, my Teaching, that is Paul's doctrine, against your Theology of self works = righteousness.

Your Threads are very useful, because they so define wrong Theology., harmful Theology.
Your Threads and posts are like a Christian Textbook titled, "Here is what not to do". "Here is what not to believe"

Ok, talk to you later.....

 

[Episkopos]

Yes, doing HIS will. "You have need of patience/perseverance that after you do the will of God you might receive the promise."

I don't say He comes as a thief, the

You have no basis in fact at all for accusing me of condemning anyone.

Those scriptures I brought simply disprove that those who fear and worship false gods are fearing and worshipping the one true God thereby. It is the Lord who condemns the worship of false gods/idols, plain and simple. The worship of idols is EXCHANGING the truth of God for a LIE

You are too blind to see that this condemns you...and God said it. You are turning the truth of God into a lie by your false narratives.

....because mankind once knew God and HE (not me) judges that the lost are without excuse.

You are without excuse. So many warnings...so much pride.

It's abhorrent that anyone would consider the worship of idols to be a righteous thing. If it were a righteous thing to do those who do it wouldn't be under such heavy bondages and curses. Look at Haiti for example, and places in Africa and India.

Those non-whites??? Why can't you see yourself?

Watchman Nee back in the 1940's wrote about the outer man needing to be broken to release the inner man, but he did so without any need at all to destroy the foundations of the gospel as you are doing.

See you refuse to admit to yourself what you are doing.

The outer man needs to be broken...so why do you live from there and expect that he (the outer man) will grow into holiness?

I am upholding the gospel of Christ and of His kingdom. I am overturning the modern false gospel of salvation for the outer man.

 

[Episkopos]

You were just on my "self righteousness" Thread.

Your threads are ALL based on your self-righteousness.

So, be courteous and appreciate that im on yours, right now.

Listen,
Im all about exposure......absolutely.
Can you feel it?
Yes you can.
Its one of the reasons i am here on your Thread, and its one of the reasons i post so many of my own.

On yours, im here To expose myself, my Teaching, that is Paul's doctrine, against your Theology of self works = righteousness.

You are doing a fine job of exposing yourself...

Your Threads are very useful, because they so define wrong Theology., harmful Theology.
Your Threads and posts are like a Christian Textbook titled, "Here is what not to do". "Here is what not to believe"

Ok, talk to you later.....

That's exactly what you are doing. I find your threads useful at least for that.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

You have no basis in fact at all for accusing me of condemning anyone.

but he did so without any need at all to destroy the foundations of the gospel as you are doing.

I think I have the right to discern what is love. And what masquerades as love. The right to discern what is edifying or encouraging Faith, and which could care less about my faith or how I’m doing…even while saying so. The point is I don’t think He comes as a thief but another comes as a thief in His Name… to kill, steal and destroy. That is not love to me. Any gospel of Christ that destroys relationships instead of restoring them, bringing them together for the better instead of for the worse …I want to run from. Any gospel or teaching or theology that claims as having the truth and the Light of Christ but makes people mad and spewing sick at each other while claiming this is love …is something I would rather not drink of. So I’m only saying our conversation is over. My giving you the floor.

 

[MatthewG]

Amen, it is on us to follow/obey, and as we do He is leading us to where He wants us to be....growing and increasing in Him. So important to obey His personal leading and will in our lives.

Mhm.

Its all about one submitting to the Father in the sense of everything that has been fertilized around you.

God will give the increase.

From what i under Lizbeth,

Test all things (by the spirit)and hold on to what is good.

Take out what holds you back (things of the flesh) and lay them in Gods hands asking for his strength found in christ to hold them back and allow the spirit of christ to manifest through, you which always causes??



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[Lizbeth]

Good grief Lizbeth. Warning and rebuking. Like a broken record…while claiming this is not in any way working for your own righteousness and salvation. In the warning and rebuke ..the never ending I’ll be damned if I don’t do as I was told to do which is to warn and rebuke…no wait don’t do any brotherly kindness …y’all hate warnings and rebuking…those are talking of doing anything else than warning and rebuking are promoting works of their own righteousness. Go ahead. Go to church. Sit in your pew. Preach it sister. Lead them all that will hear you into snobbery claiming it is the good stuff. The more needful things which are lacking …the churches are full of it. You’ll fit right in.

Sister I seem to see you often nullifying, ignoring, and going around the less 'palatable' parts of the parables and God's word in general, and accusing or insinuating that those who presume to mention or point out those troublesome parts are condemning and unloving. That is why I particularly mentioned it. Not because that is all there is.

Churches in general aren't preaching and teaching as they should at all, nor are they modelled after the new testament church........they sugar coat the gospel now, and pander to the flesh. They wouldn't receive Jesus or Paul because they would say they are too unloving and condemning. No wonder people in most churches don't tend to grow...they are being fed a diet of sugar-water and fluff to be frank. After 15 years in churches I was still bewildered by the nightmare my life had turned into and received no encouragement to endure. The Lord had to teach and strengthen me Himself after I left the churches and shut out all other voices but His. Maybe the fault was mine as well, but can't help but feel there is a spirit that one comes under in many churches that can both kill the life of the spirit as well as make one blind to things in the word.

 

[Lizbeth]

I think I have the right to discern what is love. And what masquerades as love. The right to discern what is edifying or encouraging Faith, and which could care less about my faith or how I’m doing…even while saying so. The point is I don’t think He comes as a thief but another comes as a thief in His Name… to kill, steal and destroy. That is not love to me. Any gospel of Christ that destroys relationships instead of restoring them, bringing them together for the better instead of for the worse …I want to run from. Any gospel or teaching or theology that claims as having the truth and the Light of Christ but makes people mad and spewing sick at each other while claiming this is love …is something I would rather not drink of. So I’m only saying our conversation is over. My giving you the floor.

I was responding to Episkopos. Somehow messed it up and ended up with a double post. The first part was to you, the second part was to Epi.

It's Jesus who said He is coming as a thief...warning us so that we won't be caught off guard and unprepared for His coming. Because apparently, according to those scriptures many will be, sadly.

 

[Episkopos]

Sister I seem to see you often nullifying, ignoring, and going around the less 'palatable' parts of the parables and God's word in general, and accusing or insinuating that those who presume to mention or point out those troublesome parts are condemning and unloving. That is why I particularly mentioned it. Not because that is all there is.

Churches in general aren't preaching and teaching as they should at all, nor are they modelled after the new testament church........they sugar coat the gospel now, and pander to the flesh. They wouldn't receive Jesus or Paul because they would say they are too unloving and condemning. No wonder people in most churches don't tend to grow...they are being fed a diet of sugar-water and fluff to be frank. After 15 years in churches I was still bewildered by the nightmare my life had turned into and received no encouragement to endure. The Lord had to teach and strengthen me Himself after I left the churches and shut out all other voices but His. Maybe the fault was mine as well, but can't help but feel there is a spirit that one comes under in many churches that can both kill the life of the spirit as well as make one blind to things in the word.

When people start clucking like chickens and barking like dogs...even someone with your level of discernment will see that something is "off".

But don't pat yourself on the back so quickly. Maybe you have not yet discerned the carnal nature of "the outer man love" that you have as your foundation.

God gives us samples of His grace...not to justify ourselves as we presently are...but to encourage us to go to Him for the full measure of grace. The cost of that is ALL we have and are. So you hate that part. God loves us AWAY from what we are not IN what we are.

But you should be more honest and admit that you love your life too much to give it up. This has become your religious foundation that you THINK God is affirming...for now.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

When people start clucking like chickens and barking like dogs...

you have not yet discerned the carnal nature of "the outer man love

you should be more honest and admit that you love your life too much to give it up

This has become your religious foundation that you THINK God is affirming...for now.