Collosians 1:15-16

[RR144]

Amen!
John 14 He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

And your point is?

 

[RR144]

eye yie yie

"3 where?" = try counting

"and your point is?" = ELOHIM made the POINT = "for ALL Generations" = "forever"

"There is nothing to suggest this is regarding His Resurrection" = really, i mean REALLY RR!

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.

Sorry dude, but you're not convincing. You didn't even use one verse in response to me

 

[Jack]

And your point is?

Jesus is God, the Creator. "By Him all things were created".

 

[David in NJ]

Sorry dude, but you're not convincing. You didn't even use one verse in response to me

You were given plenty of verses including Colossians 1:15-17

RR reality = hide your head in your religious bed, cover your eyes lest you see and deny, deny, deny.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You can plead your case of Roman catholicism when you stand before God.

The only SAFE PLACE is in the LORD Jesus Christ - all other ground is sinking sand.........

To be in Christ's Church is to be in CHRIST because they are ONE (Acts 9:4-5).
It is His Body - and He is the Head (Col. 1:18).

PS - "Roman" Catholicism is merely ONE of TWENTY Liturgical Rites that comprise the ONE Catholic Church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

God wrote his bible.
There are many teachings proving catholicism false religion in their own translating. Its why the protestants ran away from them.

TRANSLATIOPN:
“I cannot refute anything you said.”

Message received . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

God wrote his bible.
There are many teachings proving catholicism false religion in their own translating. Its why the protestants ran away from them.

Correction - Dod authored the Bible.
Men wrote it down - Catholic men.

There are NO false Catholic teachings.

 

[David in NJ]

To be in Christ's Church is to be in CHRIST because they are ONE (Acts 9:4-5).
It is His Body - and He is the Head (Col. 1:18).

PS - "Roman" Catholicism is merely ONE of TWENTY Liturgical Rites that comprise the ONE Catholic Church.

All twenty "liturgical rites" are doomed.

on Christ the Solid Rock i stand
all other ground is sinking sand

 

[BreadOfLife]

All twenty "liturgical rites" are doomed.

on Christ the Solid Rock i stand
all other ground is sinking sand

That's a nice little poem.
Unfortunately, you don't really know what it means . . .

If you did - you would KNOW that -
- The Church is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).

- Jesus said that HE is the Light of the World (John 8:12).
Jesus also said that His Church is the Light of the world (Matt. 5:14).

- Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6).
- The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).

- Jesus promised His Church that the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).

- Jesus told the leaders of His Church that WHATEVER they bound or loosed on earth would ALSO be bound and loosed in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 20:21-23).

- Jesus identifies His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).

- The Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).

- Jesus said about his Church: “Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME" (Luke 10:16).

 

[David in NJ]

That's a nice little poem.
Unfortunately, you don't really know what it means . . .

If you did - you would KNOW that -
- The Church is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).

- Jesus said that HE is the Light of the World (John 8:12).
Jesus also said that His Church is the Light of the world (Matt. 5:14).

- Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6).
- The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).

- Jesus promised His Church that the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).

- Jesus told the leaders of His Church that WHATEVER they bound or loosed on earth would ALSO be bound and loosed in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 20:21-23).

- Jesus identifies His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).

- The Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).

- Jesus said about his Church: “Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME" (Luke 10:16).

You belong to the 'church' of this world.

i have been made a permanent Member of the TRUE SPIRITUAL Body of Christ.

It is a PLACE earthlings cannot enter - only those who are Called by the FATHER.

 

[Keiw]

Israel ALWAYS served a Triune God - whether they knew it or not = just as they could not recognize their Messiah.

Genesis 1:26 - "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; = 3x

Exodus 3:14-15 - "And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel:
‘The YHWH Elohim(Plural) of your fathers:
the Elohenu(plural) of Abraham (Father)
the Elohenu(plural) of Isaac (only begotten of the Father = the Promised Son/Seed)
the Elohenu(plural) of Jacob (Ruach HaKodesh/Holy Spirit)
has sent me to you.
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.

You best look up the Facts-The Hebrews say-there is no i am that i am in their Hebrew written OT. and Elohim is NOT used in plurality for the true living God they served. Both are undeniable facts. You are listening to blind guides who do not have truth.

 

[Keiw]

Jesus taught Thomas. Of course Thomas was correct! Jesus didn't correct / rebuke Thomas.

Best to believe Jesus-God commanded all to do just that.

 

[Keiw]

You mean like this that you keep trying to TWIST the perfectly clear meaning?

John 20
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Do you understand english? Your reasoning on Thomas contradicts both Paul and Jesus. Best think about that.

 

[David in NJ]

You best look up the Facts-The Hebrews say-there is no i am that i am in their Hebrew written OT. and Elohim is NOT used in plurality for the true living God they served. Both are undeniable facts. You are listening to blind guides who do not have truth.

Elohim is plural

The unbelieving Jews are persihing with their worship of a one god.

The reason the Scriptures speak of Elohim as a singular is because FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT are ONE.

Therefore, the Father is the Son is the Holy Spirit for ALL 3 are ONE = no human mind can understand this.

Genesis 1:26 - "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; = 3x
Exodus 3:14-15 - "And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel:
‘The YHWH Elohim(Plural) of your fathers:
the Elohenu(plural) of Abraham (Father)
the Elohenu(plural) of Isaac (only begotten of the Father = the Promised Son/Seed)
the Elohenu(plural) of Jacob (Ruach HaKodesh/Holy Spirit)
has sent me to you.
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.

 

[Keiw]

TRANSLATIOPN:
“I cannot refute anything you said.”

Message received . . .

The bible condemns the usage of statues, icons and graven images--Yet Catholic homes and churches are filled with all 3.
Matt 23:9--Do not call any man on earth Father---not speaking about a dad, it speaks about a spiritual teacher position, Yet Catholics call the priests Father, call the Pope holy Father in great error-He Fathered 0 spiritually, God Fathered it all, he is the Holy Father not the Pope. Sothe Pope is elevating himself into Gods position by being called that and accepting it.
Catholicism threw Jesus away-The Rev war, civil war, ww1, ww2 Catholic vs Catholic on both sides of those wars--Thats like saying-Jesus vs Jesus on both sides= NEVER. Jesus would never allow that to occur. Its the opposite of Jesus to do that. We all know what the bible calls Jesus opposite.

 

[Keiw]

Correction - Dod authored the Bible.
Men wrote it down - Catholic men.

There are NO false Catholic teachings.

Not a single Catholic wrote a word of the bible down. God inspired righteous men who were all brought up Jewish to write his bible.

 

[Keiw]

Elohim is plural

The unbelieving Jews are persihing with their worship of a one god.

The reason the Scriptures speak of Elohim as a singular is because FATHER/SON/HOLY SPIRIT are ONE.

Therefore, the Father is the Son is the Holy Spirit for ALL 3 are ONE = no human mind can understand this.

Genesis 1:26 - "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; = 3x
Exodus 3:14-15 - "And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel:
‘The YHWH Elohim(Plural) of your fathers:
the Elohenu(plural) of Abraham (Father)
the Elohenu(plural) of Isaac (only begotten of the Father = the Promised Son/Seed)
the Elohenu(plural) of Jacob (Ruach HaKodesh/Holy Spirit)
has sent me to you.
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.

Best look up facts before speaking on a matter.

 

[David in NJ]

Best look up facts before speaking on a matter.

FACT #1
John 8:22
And He said to them, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”

This applies to you as well!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Not a single Catholic wrote a word of the bible down. God inspired righteous men who were all brought up Jewish to write his bible.

Brought up Jewish - and became Catholic.

1st century Bishop and lifelong student of the Apostle John wrote:
Ignatius of Antioch
Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as you would the apostles; give your deacons the same reverence that you would to a command of God. Make sure that no step affecting the Church is ever taken by anyone without the bishop’s sanction. The sole Eucharist you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself, or by some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as, wherever Jesus Christ is present, there is the Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).

Gee - "Follow your Bishop . . ."
"Obey your clergy . . ."
"The sole Eucharist . . ."
"The Catholic Church . . ."

WHAT Church does that sound like??

 

[Jack]

Best to believe Jesus-God commanded all to do just that.

Try this:

Question For JW's

Do JW's believe you are gods who will rule over non JW's in God's eternal Kingdom? Comments from non JW's welcome.

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