Collosians 1:15-16

[Keiw]

Verse16 proves 100% it is speaking of the beginning creation. Its blind guides who mislead and say verse 15 is about his birth on earth. Any who can understand english for themselves can see and know 100%--creation occurred at the beginning. Thus the term-all creation. Firstborn= created direct, first and last.

 

[Jack]

Verse16 proves 100% it is speaking of the beginning creation. Its blind guides who mislead and say verse 15 is about his birth on earth. Any who can understand english for themselves can see and know 100%--creation occurred at the beginning. Thus the term-all creation. Firstborn= created direct, first and last.

Colossians 1:15 (NIV2011)
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

 

[Behold]

Verse16 proves 100% it is speaking of the beginning creation. Its blind guides who mislead and say verse 15 is about his birth on earth. Any who can understand english for themselves can see and know 100%--creation occurred at the beginning. Thus the term-all creation. Firstborn= created direct, first and last.

John 1:10 says that Jesus made the world. (Earth)

 

[Jack]

Even the JW Bible clearly says Jesus is God the Creator!

NWT
Col 1 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things, and by means of him all other things were made to exist,

 

[Jack]

NWT
John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my God"!

 

[face2face]

Verse16 proves 100% it is speaking of the beginning creation. Its blind guides who mislead and say verse 15 is about his birth on earth. Any who can understand english for themselves can see and know 100%--creation occurred at the beginning. Thus the term-all creation. Firstborn= created direct, first and last.

Which creation?
Context is screaming at you the "New Creation: 2 Co 5:17; Gal 6:15; Eph 2:10,15; 4:24; Col 3:10; James 1:18.
F2F

 

[face2face]

John 1:10 says that Jesus made the world. (Earth)

The new "creation" has a beginning - true enough!
Here is the work of God "through" Christ as He continues to reconcile the world to Himself (2 Co 5:19):

that is, IN Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting the message of reconciliation to us.

 

[Patrick1966]

The new "creation" has a beginning - true enough!
Here is the work of God "through" Christ as He continues to reconcile the world to Himself (2 Co 5:19):

that is, IN Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting the message of reconciliation to us.

Does this mean that we won't have any bad people to torture in paradise?

 

[face2face]

Does this mean that we won't have any bad people to torture in paradise?

Yes, some will have their trespasses counted against them but not with a torture you imply.

 

[Behold]

that is, IN Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting the message of reconciliation to us.

"in Christ" is the born again believer.

 

[Keiw]

John 1:10 says that Jesus made the world. (Earth)

Yes but it was God who is the only power source. The one who created all things. He created 99.9% through Jesus. He created Jesus direct-Prov 8:22-25

 

[Keiw]

Which creation?
Context is screaming at you the "New Creation: 2 Co 5:17; Gal 6:15; Eph 2:10,15; 4:24; Col 3:10; James 1:18.
F2F

all creation shows it was the beginning creation. Verse16 clearly shows its the beginning creation.

 

[Keiw]

"in Christ" is the born again believer.

Yes the real Jesus=John 20:17, Rev 3:12--not the 3 fake ones taught on earth.

 

[Behold]

Yes but it was God who is the only power source. The one who created all things. He created 99.9% through Jesus. He created Jesus direct-Prov 8:22-25

"JESUS" is the name of the God = Man.

"what shall we call Him"..."call Him JESUS"..... This is "Emmanuel".....or "GOD with us".

See that? That is the Name of the God - Man.

Now, after God the WORD, (John 1) was virgin born, then JESUS the God MAN, told us this..

'"""I am from ABOVE, and you are from BELOW......you are of this World and I am not of THIS World".

""Jesus is the living Bread who came down from Heaven"

When Jesus went back to Heaven, He was returning to where He came from, Keiw.

Acts 1:11

“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

 

[Behold]

Yes the real Jesus=John 20:17, Rev 3:12--not the 3 fake ones taught on earth.

Jesus is "God in the Flesh", who was """he Word was God" pre-incarnate., in John 1

 

[Michiah-Imla]

See that?

 

[PinSeeker]

Jesus is the "firstborn over all creation" in the same sense that David (who was actually the lastborn and youngest of all his brothers) was made firstborn over Israel, meaning preeminent over, which is exactly Paul's context in Colossians 1.

Aside from that, John tells us that without Jesus, nothing was made that was made. Jesus was not created; He is eternal, from everlasting to everlasting, just as the Father and the Holy Spirit are. This is our triune Jehovah.

Grace and peace to all.

 

[face2face]

all creation shows it was the beginning creation. Verse16 clearly shows its the beginning creation.

If you read the first 14 verse of Collosians 1 you have no other conclusion than to acknowledge this is speaking to the New Creation which is in Christ Jesus.

Context is King!

Verse 1 - Apostle Paul and Timothy our brother = New Creation
Verse 2 - Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus = New Creation
Verse 3 - when we pray for you = New Creation
Verse 4 - your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love you have for all God’s people = New Creation
Verse 5 - spring from the hope stored up for you in heaven
Verse 6 - A Gospel bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world = New Creation

I could go on, but these things are known by those who understand how to read the Bible in context, and do not twist it to suit their pre existence doctrine.

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

It's a hard doctrine for many to stomach because they like to force notions upon the text which is not present.

F2F

 

[Keiw]

"JESUS" is the name of the God = Man.

"what shall we call Him"..."call Him JESUS"..... This is "Emmanuel".....or "GOD with us".

See that? That is the Name of the God - Man.

Now, after God the WORD, (John 1) was virgin born, then JESUS the God MAN, told us this..

'"""I am from ABOVE, and you are from BELOW......you are of this World and I am not of THIS World".

""Jesus is the living Bread who came down from Heaven"

When Jesus went back to Heaven, He was returning to where He came from, Keiw.

Acts 1:11

“Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

Yes YHWH(Jehovah) the Father sent Jesus.--See at John 17:3-This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ--Any who can understand english sees 100% Jesus taught-his Father is the only true God. And the only true God did not come down here he sent another=Jesus. It takes believing Jesus.

 

[Keiw]

If you read the first 14 verse of Collosians 1 you have no other conclusion than to acknowledge this is speaking to the New Creation which is in Christ Jesus.

Context is King!

Verse 1 - Apostle Paul and Timothy our brother = New Creation
Verse 2 - Brothers & Sisters in Christ Jesus = New Creation
Verse 3 - when we pray for you = New Creation
Verse 4 - your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love you have for all God’s people = New Creation
Verse 5 - spring from the hope stored up for you in heaven
Verse 6 - A Gospel bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world = New Creation

I could go on, but these things are known by those who understand how to read the Bible in context, and do not twist it to suit their pre existence doctrine.

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

It's a hard doctrine for many to stomach because they like to force notions upon the text which is not present.

F2F

Your bibles are erred=0 doubt in all creation--the removal of Gods name alone proves 100% satans will is in your translations, to mislead.
God put his name in nearly 7000 places because he wants it there, what is about that you cannot understand? Out of Love and respect for Gods will, the New world translation put his name back, condemned by every trinity religion on earth--don't you see something wrong with that? They know 100% his name belongs in all those spots--they have something to hide that is why?