Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

[amigo de christo]

Its important to never Lord over someone.View attachment 32525

Correcting the church aint LORDING over someone . or paul , james and jude and others were guilty .
Your prosperity gospel money mongers are the ones LORDING over people .
Your popes and others are the ones LORDING over people . But correction AINT LORDING over folks .
ITS dire and its necessary and its LOVE . great love . FOR the desire of the people
is that they do good and flee all appearnce of evil . We desire the GOOD of their souls .
And sometimes that will come with a ROD . So , let us learn the BIBLE WELL mathew .

 

[Ritajanice]

So then please as a sister in Christ just answer yes or no. I need it plain and simple. do you still sin at all in thought word or deed?

I have given you the word of God..it’s not your word or my word with a yes or no...it’s what God word says, there is NO sin in a Born again........that is my final post to you.

Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you fail to meet the test!
~ 2 Corinthians 13:5

Have a great day and God Bless.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Long after you have stopped talking about your sining and confessing..

I'll still be sharing the Cross of Christ, as God's Free Gift of Salvation.

I'll still be teaching "faith is counted as Rightouesness".

I'll still be teaching that "Jesus is the one time ETERNAL SACRIFICE, for sin"...

And This amazing verse by Paul........ 2 Corinthians 5:19 that is the what all real believers are to share as our ministry to the unsaved.

""" For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people's sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation."""

Funny that is what I spend the bulk of my time speaking on, the glory of Jesus.

I spend lots of time here, because someone who calls himself my brother in christ has fallen prey to a dangerous and blasphemous lie that he no longer sins.

I was hoping you would have enough integrity to answer my question as I asked, but you have made it clear you prefer to be evasive and slippery instead.

See I teach believers are completely righteous. Jesus is my righteousness.

See I teach Jesus is the one time sacrifice as well.

You should take to heart all the verses Jesus and Paul taught about keeping tossing out bad thoughts and being constantly renewed and to keep growing in holiness. but you ignore them by your writings here as you have passed all that.

But I will never teach that when one is in christ they will never sin again or if they sin they are not in christ as you do for that is blasphemy against all Jesus is and gives to HIs brethren!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I have given you the word of God..it’s not your word or my word with a yes or no...it’s what God word says, there is NO sin in a Born again........that is my final post to you.

Have a great day and God Bless.

So I count you as the same as behold- evasive, slippery and refusing to make a simple absolute statement on the record. OK

Bye bye, I have enough deception on this topic with behold. I need not another.

 

[Keturah]

Hmmm the mantra.....makes "no sense to me".
Spiritual only resonates with those whom are spiritually in tune.

 

[Johann]

I know. but to see one who is a brother (at least in form) crippled by such dangerous false doctrines compels me to fight against teh evil that is holding him captive.

He would argue otherwise, that he is the sole expositor of the Pauline epistles, and you and me in need of correction.
Johann

 

[Johann]

I don’t usually involve myself in other people’s arguments...I will say this only once.and I will say no more.

And neither can you hold a civil discussion....

Bon Voyage
J.

 

[Behold]

You say if you sin, you are not saved.

I dont teach that lie, and ive never posted that statement on this forum or on any forum
Never taught it to a group, from a pulpit, or in a class.
Your insidious lie is going to find you out, Ronald.

 

[Behold]

Once again I see you refuse to simply say yes or no.

No real born again Christian has sin.

See the CROSS of CHRIST, for the reason why.

 

[Ritajanice]

No real born again Christian has sin.

In Jesus Name!!...Amen!

The Holy Spirit is Holy and cant / will not live in the heart/ Spirit of a sinner..period.

 

[Behold]

Christians OUGHT to confess and repent if we do,

Sinners are to Confess.

The Born again are "in Christ" and there is no sin found there.

See, you can't be "made righteous", as "the righteousness of God in Christ" and have sin.

 

[Ritajanice]

See, you can't be "made righteous", as "the righteousness of God in Christ" and have sin.

Amen!

 

[Behold]

Behold and I have answered your questions many times...

There is no sin in a Born again...I have posted scripture on this, which for some reason you seem to dismiss.

His denomination has taught him to dismiss it.

Notice how he self identifies himself as a denomination?

Ronald identifies himself as a "sinning and confessing" denomination.

That's his issue, theologically, that keeps him from accepting that Sinners have sin, and Christians do not.

 

[Behold]

I know. but to see one who is a brother (at least in form) crippled by such dangerous false doctrines compels me to fight against teh evil that is holding him captive.

Carnal gibberish.

Listen Ronald

If Jesus has our sin, then we dont have it.

"God hath made Jesus to be sin for us".

Welcome to : Salvation.

Its a "Gift'.

 

[Behold]

Do yuo at any time now commit any sins in thought word or deed?

She's born again , Ronald.

Risen in newness, with Christ.
Is Christ confessing sin?
She's "IN CHRIST">
Understand yet?
Her "old man of sin" is "crucified with Christ".... DEAD.

THIS..

"""""But NOW being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness""

 

[Ritajanice]

Carnal gibberish.

You know Brother, that’s exactly what I was thinking when I read quite a few of this members posts....only I didn’t like to say....you said it for me ,LOL

 

[Ritajanice]

She's born again , Ronald.

Risen in newness, with Christ.
Here "old man of sin" is "crucified with Christ".... DEAD.

THIS..

"""""But NOW being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness""

In Jesus Name, Amen....

 

[Behold]

He would argue otherwise, that he is the sole expositor of the Pauline epistles, and you and me in need of correction.
Johann

Wrong again.

There are 3 of us on this Thread, actually.

Ritajanice.
Marks.
Behold.

 

[Ritajanice]

Keep preaching Gods truth, @Behold ...catch you later.

 

[Johann]

No real born again Christian has sin.

See the CROSS of CHRIST, for the reason why.

Doesn't mean genuine born from above believers are incapable of committing ACTS of missing the mark-

Ephesians 4:13 says that the spiritual gifts are given to build up the body of Christ “until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.”

Some translations say that we will become “perfect” (instead of “mature”), and from this some people have mistakenly thought that we can reach sinless perfection in this life. The Bible teaches that, while we are in the flesh, we will always struggle with a sin nature (see Romans 7:14–24). No one will be “perfect” (sinless) until we reach heaven.

The word translated “mature” in Ephesians 4:13 is the Greek word teleios. It is used throughout the New Testament to mean “perfect,” “complete,” “full-grown,” and “mature.” What Ephesians 4:13 teaches is that, the more we grow in Christ, the stronger and more unified we will be as a church. The verse does not teach that we will stop sinning.

Another passage that people sometimes get confused about is Colossians 1:28, which says, in some translations, that Paul wants to “present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.” Also, in Colossians 4:12 Paul prays that we would “stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.” In both verses, the Greek word for perfect should be understood to mean “mature” or “full-grown,” not “having no sin.”

As human beings we are bound under Adam’s nature in this world. No matter how hard we try not to, we will still sin against God. This holds true for everyone. The apostle Paul rebuked Peter for showing favoritism (Galatians 2:11–13). Late in his ministry, Paul calls himself the chief of sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). Peter, James, John, and Paul all admitted that they were imperfect. How could you or I claim anything different?

True perfection will not come until the rapture of the church, when we rise to meet Jesus in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At that time the dead in Christ will be resurrected, and the bodies of the living will be changed (Philippians 3:20, 21; 1 Corinthians 15:54). We will stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10) where our works will be judged and rewards will be given (1 Corinthians 3:9–15). Our redemption will be complete, and our sin will be gone forever. We will live and reign with Christ in sinless perfection forever.

And you are not correcting the "sinless" folk on your thread-which means that is what you are promulgating-sinless perfection.