Most Prophecy Teachers Clearly Reject God's Word!

[Ronald Nolette]

When you hear or read long-winded rejection of what God's word states as truth, you must be hearing or reading a lie because God's word is truth. If a passage is misinterpreted, it does not take extensive explanation to demonstrate it. When a person rejects a clear statement of God's word, it is because he already has his belief, to which he sees God's word must conform. Example -

"So Jehovah gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And Jehovah gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; Jehovah delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not aught of any good thing which Jehovah had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass." (Josh 21:43-45 ASV) See also Josh 23:14-16

God's word states "they possessed it", the "it" being ALL the land promised. It does not say, they failed to possess it to the full degree, nor does it say they just began to possess it; nor does it say they could have fully possessed it, "if".

To emphasize it, God's word reads "There failed not" anything promised... "all came to pass". Can language be any more clear that what is agreed upon by the various translations. It is true that God sometimes can state something accomplished when it means it is sure of accomplishment because it is God who promised it. That is covered in the following -

"I will not drive them out from before thee in one year, lest the land become desolate, and the beasts of the field multiply against thee. By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land." (Exod 23:29-30 ASV) * NOT part of the land

Why do these prophecy blow-hards deny God's word? It is because they already have their man-made system that states that Israel has not fully possess all the land promised to her, now some 3500 years after it is recorded in Joshua as a fact in that day. Further, Joshua is dated around 1400 BC and the following statement from 1 Kings is about 435 years later -

"Judah and Israel were many as the sand which is by the sea in multitude, eating and drinking and making merry. And Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms from the River unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt: they brought tribute, and served Solomon all the days of his life." (1Kgs 4:20-21 ASV)

Another passage dated approximately 450 years after Joshua is in 2 Chron. 9:22ff -

"So king Solomon exceeded all the kings of the earth in riches and wisdom. And all the kings of the earth sought the presence of Solomon, to hear his wisdom, which God had put in his heart. And they brought every man his tribute, vessels of silver, and vessels of gold, and raiment, armor, and spices, horses, and mules, a rate year by year. And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen, that he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem. And he ruled over all the kings from the River even unto the land of the Philistines, and to the border of Egypt. And the king made silver to be in Jerusalem as stones, and cedars made he to be as the sycomore-trees that are in the lowland, for abundance. And they brought horses for Solomon out of Egypt, and out of all lands." (2Chr 9:22-28 ASV)

It is clear that Israel HAD ALREADY possessed all the land promised to her by God in the days of Solomon, some 435-450 years after the statements of the fact in Joshua.

The claim that Tyre and Sidon were in the promise of land is unfounded, and any maps I've seen of the promised land to not include Tyre and Sidon. Prepositions can be tricky but "to" and "unto" does not mean "included" in reference to Tyre and Sidon! There is even question about the exact location and names/identity of Tyre as well as territory covered.

WHY DO SOME PROPHECY FANATICS REJECT GOD'S WORD? IT REFUTES THEIR MAN-MADE SCHEME THAT SAYS THE PROMISE OF THE LAND HAS NOT BEEN FULLY ACCOMPLISHED AND IS STILLL AWAITING ISRAEL'S FULL POSSESSION now some 3500 years after Joshua. I BELIEVE GOD, NOT THE NUTTY SYSTEMS OF MEN!

So why are you being so judgmental? Are you trying to live up to that picture of the crotchety old man you chose as an avatar?

Israel did live in all the land, but only for a time, they have not possessed all the land as a perpetual habitation as the covenant god made. so that possession is still to come.

but here is a description of all the land from got questions:

In Genesis 12:7, God promises Abram, who had just arrived in Canaan, “To your offspring I will give this land.” Later, in Genesis 15:18, God expands on that unconditional promise: “To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates” (NASB). Then, in Genesis 17:8, God reiterates the promise to Abraham, adding that the land gift is irrevocable: “The whole land of Canaan, where you now reside as a foreigner, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you.” God later repeats the promise to Abraham’s son Isaac (Genesis 26:3–4) and Isaac’s son Jacob (Genesis 28:13), whose name God later changed to Israel.

In the Abrahamic Covenant, then, God laid out the extent of the land that would belong to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—a territory including all of Canaan and stretching from Egypt to modern-day Iraq. Several centuries later, when it came time for the Israelites actually take possession of the Promised Land, God again spoke of a vast area “from the Negev wilderness in the south to the Lebanon mountains in the north, from the Euphrates River in the east to the Mediterranean Sea in the west, including all the land of the Hittites” (Joshua 1:4, NLT).

The promise of land belonging to the children of Israel is permanent. Even when Israel was expelled from their land, which has happened twice in history, God promised they would return: “Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. He will bring you to the land that belonged to your ancestors, and you will take possession of it” (Deuteronomy 30:4–5). This promise is part of what is today sometimes called the Palestinian Covenant or the Land Covenant (Deuteronomy 29:1—30:10).

I don't remember Israel ever owning the land of Egypt up to the Nile river, but that may be due to faulty memory.

 

[Keraz]

Enemies Occupy the Holy Land:

Isaiah 66:5-6 Hear the Word of the Lord, you who revere His Name and keep His commandments. Those scoffers who say: Where is the Lord? When will your so-called God do anything? They will be shocked, for with a great noise His retribution will fall upon them. 2 Peter 3:3-10

Isaiah 63:18 Why have ungodly people trespassed on Your holy place? Why do enemies trample the holy Land? Psalms 37:10-11, Jeremiah 6:12

Jeremiah 12:8-17 Is this Land of Mine a hyena’s lair? The birds of prey and the wild beasts have taken My holy Land over, they ravage it and trample it down, making it a desolation, to My sorrow. The Lord says: I shall uproot all those evil neighbours who have encroached onto the Land that I allotted to My people. Judah too, I shall uproot, but if any of them learn the right ways of My people, then they can join and live again in the holy Land. My sword of punishment will devour the Land from end to end, no living thing will remain there. Hosea 4:3, Ezekiel 21:1-7, Isaiah 6:11-13

Psalms 7:12-16 The enemy prepares his weapons again, but it is against himself that he has made ready his deadly shafts, tipped with fire. They are all in collusion with iniquity and sinfulness, their plans for violence and terror will fall upon their own heads. Joel 3:4

Psalms 68:1-3 May God arise and His enemies be scattered. He will disperse them like smoke. His fire will melt them like wax and they will perish in the heat of His wrath, but the righteous will be joyful, as they exult in the triumph of their God.

Isaiah 29:5-6 Suddenly, all in an instant, punishment will come from God Almighty with thunder, earthquakes and a great noise, with storm tempest and flames of devouring fire. The horde of your enemies will crumble into dust, that multitude of ruthless foes will scatter like chaff. Zephaniah 3:8, Isaiah 24, Joel 2:30-31, 1 Thessalonians 5:3, Revelation 6:12-17, +



Micah 5:7-15 All the remnant of the descendants of Jacob, now dispersed among the nations, will become like dew from the Lord, they will look only to Him who saves them. Their enemy’s will be destroyed, but on that Day their military power will be lost, all the occult followers will die and any things of idol worship will be gone. Amos 9:10 In anger and fury the Lord will wreak vengeance on all the peoples who disobey Him. Isaiah 66:15-17

Zechariah 8:11-13 The Lord says: I do not feel the same now toward the remnant of My people, as I did in former days. Hosea 11:8-11 Now I shall save you and bless you, you will work the Land in safety, the sky will give rain and the soil will yield abundant produce. Ezekiel 36:8, Joel 2:23-27, Amos 9:13-15, Jer. 30:18-22
Ref: REB abridged and paraphrased.

Birds of prey and wild beasts have taken over My Land… and the evil neighbours… These are metaphors for the ungodly peoples who are now living in the holy Land.

Judah too, I shall uproot.......Ezekiel 21:46-48 and Ezekiel 22:1-8 describes the Judgment of Judah and Isaiah 29:1-4 says how a [Christian] remnant will survive by hiding underground.

The enemies deadly shafts, tipped with fire – an ancient description for a modern weapon: a nuke tipped missile. It is against themselves they have prepared their weapons and they will fall onto their own heads. Psalms 64:1-10, Habakkuk 3:3-14

All the weapons ready to fire at Israel will explode on the launch pad or in their bunkers. Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come in the heat of the Lord’s wrath, causing earthquakes with flames of fire that will burn His enemies to ashes. 1 Thess 5:3
As described here and throughout the Bible, this will be a Coronal Mass Ejection, a huge unprecedented explosion of the suns surface, that will fulfil all the vividly stated prophecies about the Lord’s judgement by fire. Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1 & 3

But the punishment by exile of the Lord’s people, who are now every faithful Christian, will be completed and the Lord will save and bless them. They will go to their inheritance, all that area promised to Abraham, cleansed from end to end by this terrible devastation by fire.



Many prophecies tell about the great second Exodus of the Christian peoples; the Israelites of God to the holy Land, where they will work the Land in safety, being a light to the nations, Matthew 5:14-16, all as originally meant for them. Isaiah 49:3-8 They will send out 144,000 missionaries to tell the world the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Revelation 7:1-8 & 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:18b-21

 

[Freedm]

The holy Land is all that area from the Nile to the Euphrates. The area which God will soon clear and cleanse, Deuteronomy 32:43, Jeremiah 10:18, Jeremiah 12:14, Zephaniah 1:14-18, +
Then the faithful Christian peoples will migrate there and will live in peace and prosperity, blessed by the Lord. Read Psalms 107, Isaiah 66:18b-21 and many other Prophesies about the great Second Exodus of the faithful and righteous people of God into their heritage.

Are you going to be moving to Israel?

 

[Freedm]

Not exactly. Yes there are errors in translations and even the promotion and agendas of many false doctrines. Thus, it is only the scriptures by spiritual discernment that are without contradiction. Even so, none of this is coincidence, but God's strength made perfect in weakness and the equal opportunity for all generations to choose life or death set before each by God.

Then, according to you, either the book of Matthew or the book of Acts were not written by spiritual discernment, because they tell two completely different stories when it comes to the death of Judas.

According to Matthew, Judas returned the money to the chief priests, who then used the money to purchase the "Field of Blood". Matthew also says that Judas hanged himself and that the reason the field is called "Field of Blood" is because it's used as a burial place for foreigners.

Matthew 27:5-8
5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.” 7 So they decided to use the money to buy the potter’s field as a burial place for foreigners. 8 That is why it has been called the Field of Blood to this day.

That's not what Paul said. According to Paul Judas never returned the money but instead bought a field with it where he died by falling, not by hanging. He also says this is the reason it's called "Field of Blood".

Acts 1:18-19
18 (With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. 19 Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)

They can't both be true.

 

[Freedm]

Have you never read the words of The Prophet: "Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away."

Of course I've heard those words, but GISMYS_7 implied that the Bible is "God's eternal living word". He didn't say anything about Jesus. Jesus' words and the Bible are two very different things. Jesus is eternal, he is living and he is the word of God. The Bible is none of those things.

 

[David in NJ]

Then, according to you, either the book of Matthew or the book of Acts were not written by spiritual discernment, because they tell two completely different stories when it comes to the death of Judas.

According to Matthew, Judas returned the money to the chief priests, who then used the money to purchase the "Field of Blood". Matthew also says that Judas hanged himself and that the reason the field is called "Field of Blood" is because it's used as a burial place for foreigners.

Matthew 27:5-8
5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.” 7 So they decided to use the money to buy the potter’s field as a burial place for foreigners. 8 That is why it has been called the Field of Blood to this day.

That's not what Paul said. According to Paul Judas never returned the money but instead bought a field with it where he died by falling, not by hanging. He also says this is the reason it's called "Field of Blood".

Acts 1:18-19
18 (With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. 19 Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)

They can't both be true.

There is no contradiction here between Matt & Acts on this matter.

A little nuance = YES

 

[David in NJ]

Of course I've heard those words, but GISMYS_7 implied that the Bible is "God's eternal living word". He didn't say anything about Jesus. Jesus' words and the Bible are two very different things. Jesus is eternal, he is living and he is the word of God. The Bible is none of those things.

The Holy Spirit says this to you @Freedm

Matthew 4:1-11
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry.
Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

But JESUS answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple,
and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down.
For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God.’ ”

Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.”

Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

When you hear or read long-winded rejection of what God's word states as truth, you must be hearing or reading a lie because God's word is truth. If a passage is misinterpreted, it does not take extensive explanation to demonstrate it. When a person rejects a clear statement of God's word, it is because he already has his belief, to which he sees God's word must conform. Example -

"So Jehovah gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. And Jehovah gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; Jehovah delivered all their enemies into their hand. There failed not aught of any good thing which Jehovah had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass." (Josh 21:43-45 ASV) See also Josh 23:14-16

God's word states "they possessed it", the "it" being ALL the land promised. It does not say, they failed to possess it to the full degree, nor does it say they just began to possess it; nor does it say they could have fully possessed it, "if".

To emphasize it, God's word reads "There failed not" anything promised... "all came to pass". Can language be any more clear that what is agreed upon by the various translations. It is true that God sometimes can state something accomplished when it means it is sure of accomplishment because it is God who promised it. That is covered in the following -

"I will not drive them out from before thee in one year, lest the land become desolate, and the beasts of the field multiply against thee. By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land." (Exod 23:29-30 ASV) * NOT part of the land

Why do these prophecy blow-hards deny God's word? It is because they already have their man-made system that states that Israel has not fully possess all the land promised to her, now some 3500 years after it is recorded in Joshua as a fact in that day. Further, Joshua is dated around 1400 BC and the following statement from 1 Kings is about 435 years later -

"Judah and Israel were many as the sand which is by the sea in multitude, eating and drinking and making merry. And Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms from the River unto the land of the Philistines, and unto the border of Egypt: they brought tribute, and served Solomon all the days of his life." (1Kgs 4:20-21 ASV)

Another passage dated approximately 450 years after Joshua is in 2 Chron. 9:22ff -

"So king Solomon exceeded all the kings of the earth in riches and wisdom. And all the kings of the earth sought the presence of Solomon, to hear his wisdom, which God had put in his heart. And they brought every man his tribute, vessels of silver, and vessels of gold, and raiment, armor, and spices, horses, and mules, a rate year by year. And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen, that he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem. And he ruled over all the kings from the River even unto the land of the Philistines, and to the border of Egypt. And the king made silver to be in Jerusalem as stones, and cedars made he to be as the sycomore-trees that are in the lowland, for abundance. And they brought horses for Solomon out of Egypt, and out of all lands." (2Chr 9:22-28 ASV)

It is clear that Israel HAD ALREADY possessed all the land promised to her by God in the days of Solomon, some 435-450 years after the statements of the fact in Joshua.

The claim that Tyre and Sidon were in the promise of land is unfounded, and any maps I've seen of the promised land to not include Tyre and Sidon. Prepositions can be tricky but "to" and "unto" does not mean "included" in reference to Tyre and Sidon! There is even question about the exact location and names/identity of Tyre as well as territory covered.

WHY DO SOME PROPHECY FANATICS REJECT GOD'S WORD? IT REFUTES THEIR MAN-MADE SCHEME THAT SAYS THE PROMISE OF THE LAND HAS NOT BEEN FULLY ACCOMPLISHED AND IS STILLL AWAITING ISRAEL'S FULL POSSESSION now some 3500 years after Joshua. I BELIEVE GOD, NOT THE NUTTY SYSTEMS OF MEN!

GODS PROMISE TO THEM WAS AN ETERNAL PROMISE. AN ETERNAL PROMISE DOES NOT END

IN LEV 26, GOD GAVE THEM WARNINGS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY DISOBEY AND SIN, UP TO AND INCLUDING WHAT HAPPENED AT THE HANDS OF ASSYRIA, BABYLON, MEDIA-PERSIA, GREECE AND ROME AND CULMINATED IN 70 AD

IT ALSO SAYS THAT IF THEY REPENT HE WILL REMEMBER HIS PROMISE

IN FACT OT PROPHETS SAY ISRAEL WILL REPENT, AND GOD WILL RESTORE THEM

FORGIVE ME FOR WRITTING IN ALL CAPS. BUT YOU WROTE IN ALL CAPS AND CALLED US FANATICS.. I WANTED TO RETURN THE FAVOR AND ASK WHY YOU THINK GODS ETERNAL PROMISE IS DONE,, AND NOT ETERNAL

 

[David in NJ]

GODS PROMISE TO THEM WAS AN ETERNAL PROMISE. AN ETERNAL PROMISE DOES NOT END

IN LEV 26, GOD GAVE THEM WARNINGS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY DISOBEY AND SIN, UP TO AND INCLUDING WHAT HAPPENED AT THE HANDS OF ASSYRIA, BABYLON, MEDIA-PERSIA, GREECE AND ROME AND CULMINATED IN 70 AD

IT ALSO SAYS THAT IF THEY REPENT HE WILL REMEMBER HIS PROMISE

IN FACT OT PROPHETS SAY ISRAEL WILL REPENT, AND GOD WILL RESTORE THEM

FORGIVE ME FOR WRITTING IN ALL CAPS. BUT YOU WROTE IN ALL CAPS AND CALLED US FANATICS.. I WANTED TO RETURN THE FAVOR AND ASK WHY YOU THINK GODS ETERNAL PROMISE IS DONE,, AND NOT ETERNAL

Who has the Final Say/Verdict, OT prophets or the LORD?

 

[Freedm]

The Holy Spirit says this to you @Freedm

Matthew 4:1-11
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry.
Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

But JESUS answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple,
and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down.
For it is written:
‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,
‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”

Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God.’ ”

Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.”

Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

I'm not sure how you think you're making your point here. Of course things are written, and yes, some of the things written by men were instructions from God, like the ten commandments, or the law, or the prophecies, but that doesn't mean the Bible is the word of God. If that were the case I could quote Shakespeare in my book and claim that my book is the word of Shakespeare.

 

[Freedm]

There is no contradiction here between Matt & Acts on this matter.

A little nuance = YES

"Judas threw the money into the temple" and "Judas bought a field with the money", are not "nuance". They are two very different stories. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to prove something that is so obviously not true. Would contradictions in the Bible tear down the pillars of your faith? Cause they shouldn't. Your faith should not be based on the Bible. It should be based on God.

The Bible is merely a tool for us, an amazing and tremendously valuable tool, but it is not the basis of our faith. If it were, then what would be the basis of faith for those who wrote the Bible? What would be the basis of faith for Paul? Or Peter? Or John? Was their faith dependent on a Bible that didn't yet exist? Of course not, and neither should ours be. It's o.k. that there are insignificant errors in the Bible. That doesn't change our faith, if our faith is in God.

 

[Keraz]

Are you going to be moving to Israel?

Yes. I have been there and I know I'm going back there to live someday. Could be quite soon.
Prophesies like Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7, show that God's people are present in the holy Land during the end times.

The great Second Exodus of God's people to the holy Land, is hard to believe for those who have other ideas about what they want God to do in the end times.
Not knowing just who God's people are today, thinking the Jews still are the 'chosen' people, is the great error of many.
WE Christians are the Israelites of God, His Victorious ones and the Promises of God to His Israelite Overcomers for Him, pertain to us. 2 Corinthians 1:20

The many prophesies that tell about the gathering of His people into all of the holy Land, soon after the Lord has cleared and cleansed that entire area, by His terrible day of fiery wrath; do mostly mention Israel or Israelites, which confuses people who wrongly think the Jewish State of Israel is the only Israel.
But prophesies like Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, do not mention Israel, they DO support the truth that every faithful Christian will live in peace and prosperity in all of the holy Land during the end times. Also Romans 9:24-26 clearly states that Christians will be called the sons of the Living God, in the same place as ancient Israel was rejected. Isaiah 66:18b-21, Revelation 5:9-10

Scriptural proofs that God’s holy people, the faithful Christians are living in the holy Land before Jesus Returns:

Revelation 13:7 He was allowed to wage war on Gods people and to defeat them....

As described in Zechariah 14:1-2 A day is coming that the Lord will gather armies to make war on Jerusalem and it will be conquered. Half of the people will leave and half must remain.

These two groups of the Christian peoples are shown again in Daniel 11:32 and Revelation 12:14 and 17

Daniel 7:25 ....the holy people will be delivered into his power for 3½ years. Referring to the Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt.

Daniel 11:27 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4 show that this must take place in the holy Land.

 

[Freedm]

Yes. I have been there and I know I'm going back there to live someday. Could be quite soon.
Prophesies like Daniel 7:25 and Revelation 13:7, show that God's people are present in the holy Land during the end times.

Sounds amazing. I hope you really like it there, but do you think it says something about my faith if I choose not to?

 

[David in NJ]

"Judas threw the money into the temple" and "Judas bought a field with the money", are not "nuance". They are two very different stories. I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to prove something that is so obviously not true. Would contradictions in the Bible tear down the pillars of your faith? Cause they shouldn't. Your faith should not be based on the Bible. It should be based on God.

The Bible is merely a tool for us, an amazing and tremendously valuable tool, but it is not the basis of our faith. If it were, then what would be the basis of faith for those who wrote the Bible? What would be the basis of faith for Paul? Or Peter? Or John? Was their faith dependent on a Bible that didn't yet exist? Of course not, and neither should ours be. It's o.k. that there are insignificant errors in the Bible. That doesn't change our faith, if our faith is in God.

Just a nuance.

The money purchased the field and did not matter between Judas and the those Elders of the Temple that conspired with Judas.

Before a US Court and ABSOLUTELY before GOD, both were compliant to the murder of their Messiah.

 

[David in NJ]

I'm not sure how you think you're making your point here. Of course things are written, and yes, some of the things written by men were instructions from God, like the ten commandments, or the law, or the prophecies, but that doesn't mean the Bible is the word of God. If that were the case I could quote Shakespeare in my book and claim that my book is the word of Shakespeare.

@Freedm says: "I'm not sure how you think you're making your point here."

EXACTLY the problem.

 

[Freedm]

Scriptural proofs that God’s holy people, the faithful Christians are living in the holy Land before Jesus Returns:

Revelation 13:7 He was allowed to wage war on Gods people and to defeat them....

Or, is that scriptural proof that the battle is spiritual and not physical? Cause I'm pretty sure living in Israel is not a requirement for being a Christian, so Christians are living, and will continue to live, all over the world. Think about it.

 

[Freedm]

@Freedm says: "I'm not sure how you think you're making your point here."

EXACTLY the problem.

Maybe if you explained yourself with more words, I could understand. I promise I'll read your entire explanation. And, when you explain, please remember my example of quoting Shakespeare in my book, and how that would not qualify my book as being "the word of Shakespeare".

 

[David in NJ]

Maybe if you explained yourself with more words, I could understand. I promise I'll read your entire explanation. And, when you explain, please remember my example of quoting Shakespeare in my book, and how that would not qualify my book as being "the word of Shakespeare".

There is no other Book in the world whereby the words written in it can lead you to SALVATION unto Eternal Life = other then the Bible.

 

[Keraz]

Or, is that scriptural proof that the battle is spiritual and not physical? Cause I'm pretty sure living in Israel is not a requirement for being a Christian, so Christians are living, and will continue to live, all over the world. Think about it.

Not now, but it will be, or else you will be part of the One World Govt.

the Lord will guide and help His people to go there, Isaiah 30:21, Isaiah 49:9-13, Psalms 68:7-10, Jeremiah 31:8-9, +

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Who has the Final Say/Verdict, OT prophets or the LORD?

The OT prophets spoke as inspired by the Lord.

So when you read their words. You are reading the words of God.

so they should agree.. not change

Jesus the same yesterday today and tomorrow