The Gospel Plus Nothing
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Saved from death, sin, satan and his angels, the false prophet, the beast, hades, the wrath of God poured out on Jerusalem.
Yes.
Saved to the Kingdom of God? Jesus never taught everyone would be in the kingdom of God after this life.
No.
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Why are faithless people claimed to be outside of the gates of the city in heaven?
According to Matt 1:21 Jesus was to do this:
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
@brightfame52,
This topic thought is about the Gospel plus nothing, it's best we stay on subject. Those things were foretold in the Gospel though, and Jesus Christ overcame all things for all people. There is just a distinction from unbelievers, and believers. Inside of the Kingdom, outside of the Kingdom. (Revelation 21-22)
This topic thought is about the Gospel plus nothing, it's best we stay on subject. Those things were foretold in the Gospel though, and Jesus Christ overcame all things for all people. There is just a distinction from unbelievers, and believers. Inside of the Kingdom, outside of the Kingdom. (Revelation 21-22)
Yes it is, you said all mankind is saved from:
death, sin, satan and his angels, the false prophet, the beast, hades, the wrath of God poured out on Jerusalem.
Yes.
If I said they are all saved into the Kingdom of Heaven/God (Heavenly Jerusalem) right after death - then it would be universalism. _ Jesus never taught this in the Gospel.
Universalism also includes satan, his angels, the beast, the false prophet.
I disagree. Therefore while the Salvation of all via the Victory of Christ is a given - not all people partake in the kingdom.
Thats fine. Its not universalism. Its called reconcilationism. Where God has two parties separate from each other just like hell. And his will is done, and it make take a long time for people to repent and go through the lake of fire but the damage of their resurrection is done; resurrection of condemnation and resurrection of life. Hope you understand @brightfame52.
There is a study about it below using the scriptures.
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There is a study about it below using the scriptures.
Why are faithless people claimed to be outside of the gates of the city in heaven?
Hello there, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST Many people believe that God is going to destroy people in the lake of fire, but is that true? In Revelation 20, you see that the devil, the false prophet, the beast are all placed in the lake of fire forever; and then following those who name was not...
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amigo de christo
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Cause they turn TO HIM and HE alone . Jesus never preached universalism .
He preached BELIEVE YE . i suggest YOU DO THE SAME .
amigo de christo
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I suggest we all do ourselves a huge favor . Read revelation . See what it says about the lake of fireThats fine. Its not universalism. Its called reconcilationism. Where God has two parties separate from each other just like hell. And his will is done, and it make take a long time for people to repent and go through the lake of fire but the damage of their resurrection is done; resurrection of condemnation and resurrection of life. Hope you understand @brightfame52.
There is a study about it below using the scriptures.
Why are faithless people claimed to be outside of the gates of the city in heaven?
Hello there, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST Many people believe that God is going to destroy people in the lake of fire, but is that true? In Revelation 20, you see that the devil, the false prophet, the beast are all placed in the lake of fire forever; and then following those who name was not...
THEN dont add too nor take from it .
Cause i happen to know what happens to those who add to that book or take from that book .
DID it ever say one time in that book that those who go to the lake of fire , EVER GET OUT .
IT DONT .
So lets not add in they DO . simple . Now men do as they do and that is a fact .
BUT lambs , lambs gonna do what GOD , what CHRIST said to do and what he said NOT to do they will not do .
Including dont add to or take from . LEAVE it alone mathew .
SURE they may be things we do not understand . LEAVE THAT TO GOD . GOD will DO as HE WILL DO .
WE must simply preach what is already written . Not adding too nor taking from .
Mathew , there is a good reason GOD says what HE says . HE looks out FOR US .
THERE IS GOOD reason that book specifically says DONT ADD TOO or take from it .
THUS my advice is , DONT ADD TOO or TAKE FROM IT .
amigo de christo
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This might help bring some back to a simple pure truth .
Go and read the gospels .
WHEN JESUS preached it was BELIEVE YE .
When JESUS saw those he had preached to , not yet repenting to BELIEVE ON HIM
Take a good long look at what HE says to them . You wont see the idea its gonna end up well for them .
It will be better for SODOM than for you on the day of judgment .
JESUS told them to preach the gospel to all . HE also said shake the dust off your feet
as a testimony to those who reject , IT will be better for sodom on the day of judgment than for them .
DO NOTICE HE didnt say , OH tell them ALL WILL BE SAVED EVENTUALLY . ALL will be fine in the end .
HE SAID what HE SAID to those who heard and rejected . NOW I SUGGEST WE DO THE SAME .
Go and read the gospels .
WHEN JESUS preached it was BELIEVE YE .
When JESUS saw those he had preached to , not yet repenting to BELIEVE ON HIM
Take a good long look at what HE says to them . You wont see the idea its gonna end up well for them .
It will be better for SODOM than for you on the day of judgment .
JESUS told them to preach the gospel to all . HE also said shake the dust off your feet
as a testimony to those who reject , IT will be better for sodom on the day of judgment than for them .
DO NOTICE HE didnt say , OH tell them ALL WILL BE SAVED EVENTUALLY . ALL will be fine in the end .
HE SAID what HE SAID to those who heard and rejected . NOW I SUGGEST WE DO THE SAME .
This is the heresy of universalismThats fine. Its not universalism. Its called reconcilationism. Where God has two parties separate from each other just like hell. And his will is done, and it make take a long time for people to repent and go through the lake of fire but the damage of their resurrection is done; resurrection of condemnation and resurrection of life. Hope you understand @brightfame52.
There is a study about it below using the scriptures.
Why are faithless people claimed to be outside of the gates of the city in heaven?
Hello there, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST Many people believe that God is going to destroy people in the lake of fire, but is that true? In Revelation 20, you see that the devil, the false prophet, the beast are all placed in the lake of fire forever; and then following those who name was not...
Cool Brightfame52, I am gonna move on. See ya mate. Many people believe because of my faith in the victory of Christ makes me a heretic. It's alright. ( I do believe in universal salvation from those things mentioned) but not everyone accepts salvation (that is why there are faithless people outside the city gates) Revelation 21-22. God bless you. There is only one way to the Father that is through Jesus Christ.
According to Matt 1:21 Jesus was to do this:
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
So according to this Gospel promise, who shall Jesus save ?
amigo de christo
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HIS PEOPLE . but according to JESUS HIS PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ON HIM . thanks for the reminder . now learn that .
You can call it whatever you would like @brightfame52.
It's not universalism though...
All the best to you. Its understood most people don't like the idea of people being outside the city of the gates of Heaven, and there being a place where believers go, while unbelievers are outside the gates.
It's not universalism though...
All the best to you. Its understood most people don't like the idea of people being outside the city of the gates of Heaven, and there being a place where believers go, while unbelievers are outside the gates.
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