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HIS PEOPLE . but according to JESUS HIS PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE ON HIM . thanks for the reminder . now learn that .
Thats right, His People are the ones He shall save, and its a sure thing. If a person is lost, its because they did nt belong to His People that He came to save.
 

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You can call it whatever you would like @brightfame52.

It's not universalism though...

All the best to you. Its understood most people don't like the idea of people being outside the city of the gates of Heaven, and there being a place where believers go, while unbelievers are outside the gates.
Yes it is, and its heresy, a false gospel
 
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Thats right, His People are the ones He shall save, and its a sure thing. If a person is lost, its because they did nt belong to His People that He came to save.
HIS PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE ON HIM to BE SAVED pard . the sheep , HIS PEOPLE hear his voice .
TIME to remind folks , THAT IT IS HIGH TIME TO BELIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS .
But rather you try and make void that with a false hope they dont have too . That will not bode well for you at all
on the DAY of the LORD . false hope dont save .
JESUS DOES , SO ITS HIGH TIME WE POINT FOLKS TO HIM and SAY BELEIVE YE ON HIM .
 
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HIS PEOPLE WILL BELIEVE ON HIM to BE SAVED pard . the sheep , HIS PEOPLE hear his voice .
TIME to remind folks , THAT IT IS HIGH TIME TO BELIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS .
But rather you try and make void that with a false hope they dont have too . That will not bode well for you at all
on the DAY of the LORD . false hope dont save .
JESUS DOES , SO ITS HIGH TIME WE POINT FOLKS TO HIM and SAY BELEIVE YE ON HIM .
His people will believe in Him because He saved them. How else can you believe unless you saved.
 

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His people will believe in Him because He saved them. How else can you believe unless you saved.
8,000 Jews were converted to Christ on the day of Pentecost because they heard and believed the Gospel, Acts 2:41, Acts 4:4.

This is why Paul said, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17. Which is the Gospel.
 

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8,000 Jews were converted to Christ on the day of Pentecost because they heard and believed the Gospel, Acts 2:41, Acts 4:4.

This is why Paul said, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17. Which is the Gospel.
I have no problem with those scriptures and what the Apostles preached, but they preached the Gospel, you cant tell me what the Gospel is. Do you believe that the death of Christ secured and effected the Salvation of every sinner He died for ? Yes or no
 

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I have no problem with those scriptures and what the Apostles preached, but they preached the Gospel, you cant tell me what the Gospel is. Do you believe that the death of Christ secured and effected the Salvation of every sinner He died for ? Yes or no
Salvation is available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Because Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Everyone has the opportunity to be saved.
 

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Salvation is available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Because Jesus atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Everyone has the opportunity to be saved.
See you teach Christ makes salvation availalbe, not that He saves. Thats a false gospel
 

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See you teach Christ makes salvation availalbe, not that He saves. Thats a false gospel
If he makes salvation available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9, Then it is very apparent that sin, death and the devil have been defeated. But nothing is our until it is received by faith, Hebrews 7:25, Also John 3:16. Why are you resisting the truth?
 

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If he makes salvation available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9, Then it is very apparent that sin, death and the devil have been defeated. But nothing is our until it is received by faith, Hebrews 7:25, Also John 3:16. Why are you resisting the truth?
How do you preach the Gospel when you believe Jesus Christ in all His Work of Obedience even unto Death, the Shedding of His Precious Blood to only make Salvation available, and didn't save nobody ? Thats not the Gospel, but Blasphemy !
 

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How do you preach the Gospel when you believe Jesus Christ in all His Work of Obedience even unto Death, the Shedding of His Precious Blood to only make Salvation available, and didn't save nobody ? Thats not the Gospel, but Blasphemy !
Jesus claims to be the savior of the whole world, John 3:16-17. Nothing is ours until it is received by faith. Calvinism is a sinking ship and you are on it. John Calvin was in his early 20's and fresh out of the Catholic church when he came up with his predestination lie. He was Jealous of Martin Luther and wanted to be famous like Luther. If you want to know more about Calvin google, "The Recorded Atrocities of John Calvin".
 

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Jesus claims to be the savior of the whole world, John 3:16-17. Nothing is ours until it is received by faith. Calvinism is a sinking ship and you are on it. John Calvin was in his early 20's and fresh out of the Catholic church when he came up with his predestination lie. He was Jealous of Martin Luther and wanted to be famous like Luther. If you want to know more about Calvin google, "The Recorded Atrocities of John Calvin".
How are you preaching the Gospel, since when is the Gospel Christ made salvation possible ?
 

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How are you preaching the Gospel, since when is the Gospel Christ made salvation possible ?
God requires two things for the salvation of fallen man.

1. A life of perfect obedience according to his holy law.
2. A perfect atonement for our sins and the sins of humanity.

Here it is listen carefully.

Jesus in our name and on our behalf has victoriously met both of these requirements. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.
 

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God requires two things for the salvation of fallen man.

1. A life of perfect obedience according to his holy law.
2. A perfect atonement for our sins and the sins of humanity.

Here it is listen carefully.

Jesus in our name and on our behalf has victoriously met both of these requirements. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.
Yet after Jesus having done those things, you say He didn't save anyone, but merely made salvation possible of available, what kinda mess is that ? You call that the Gospel ?
 

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Yet after Jesus having done those things, you say He didn't save anyone, but merely made salvation possible of available, what kinda mess is that ? You call that the Gospel ?
The Bible is full of people that lived and acted according to their free will, see Hebrews the 11th chapter. God is not glorified by creating robots. Everyone is a free agent and can act according to their free will. "Choose this day whom you will serve".
 

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The Bible is full of people that lived and acted according to their free will, see Hebrews the 11th chapter. God is not glorified by creating robots. Everyone is a free agent and can act according to their free will. "Choose this day whom you will serve".
You proclaim that Christs death, burial, and resurrection saved no one. How is that the Gospel ?
 

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The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation which one shouldnt be ashamed of.
 

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When did I say that? You have a bad case of Calvinites. When you read the Bible all that you can hear is John Calvin.
Its implied, you say there are folks Christ died for who shall die in their sins in unbelief dont you ? Yes or No. You say Christs death only makes salvation available.
 

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Its implied, you say there are folks Christ died for who shall die in their sins in unbelief dont you ? Yes or No. You say Christs death only makes salvation available.
If Jesus is the savior of the whole world, John 3:17. Then that means that salvation is available to everyone, Hebrews 2:9. Why is it that you cannot believe that?