Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?

[ChristisGod]

Oh, you are a trinny. Way to self-congratulate.

I believe in the biblical and True God who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. You cannot have one without the others.

And would that make you a biny ?

or a uni ?

 

[Episkopos]

I believe in the biblical and True God who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. You cannot have one without the others.

And would that make you a biny ?

or a uni ?

A binny. I affirm Christ and His saving work in His people...and the Father who sent Him. God is Spirit. The name of that One Spirit is Yahweh. As such BOTH Father and Son share one Name...One Spirit. They are ECHAD...ONE. Jesus said...my Father and I are ONE (Echad). Echad is ALWAYS two in one. Check out that bible...read about it. Do a study on Echad.

 

[Episkopos]

As follow up to my last post. If you add a simple straight line to the text in Hebrew (the letter vav) you get. Hear O Israel the Lord your God AND the Lord are One (Echad)

Father and Son. The Most High and the God of Israel.

Both are God.... Elohim. (always the plural "im" meaning 2.) Ex. Ephraim means "double fruit" (not triple fruit) Do a study

God IS Spirit. Both share the very same Spirit.

 

[ChristisGod]

As follow up to my last post. If you add a simple straight line to the text in Hebrew (the letter vav) you get. Hear O Israel the Lord your God AND the Lord are One (Echad)

Father and Son. The Most High and the God of Israel.

Both are God.... Elohim. (always the plural "im" meaning 2.) Ex. Ephraim means "double fruit" (not triple fruit) Do a study

God IS Spirit. Both share the very same Spirit.

The Father is Spirit and the Son is man ( not spirit )which destroys your argument.

 

[Episkopos]

The Father is Spirit and the Son is man ( not spirit )which destroys your argument.

I thought you knew your bible.

1 Cor. 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

 

[Behold]

What say you?

Paul teaches... "Follow me as i follow Christ"..

So, add that one to your choices and you'll have offered something, worthwhile.

 

[Episkopos]

Paul teaches... "Follow me as i follow Christ"..

So, add that one to your choices and you'll have offered something, worthwhile.

Yeah, you're not into the whole obedience thing. Too much work.

 

[Behold]

Yeah, you're not into the whole obedience thing. Too much work.

Here is the thing..

Im into Pauline Theology.

Look it up, as its not your Doctrine.

 

[Episkopos]

You're into loving to hear yourself talk., but you knew that already.

Here is the thing..

Im into Pauline Theology.

Look it up, as its not your Doctrine.

Of course not. Pauline is NOT even mentioned in the bible.

 

[Behold]

Of course not. Pauline is NOT even mentioned in the bible.

Neither is "Trinity" or "Zelensky".
So, thank you for another moot point.

Listen now..
Real students of the Bible are all devoted to Paul's theology.

This is Basic Christianity 101.
When this is missing from a person's "doctrine" then so is the Truth.

"Pauline Theology".

Go there, stay there. = final answer.

Start here ..

Romans 3:21-28

Then go here... and never leave this verse.... Hebrews 13:9

 

[St. SteVen]

or a uni ?

HEY, watch it! - LOL

 

[Episkopos]

Neither is "Trinity" or "Zelensky".
So, thank you for another moot point.

Listen now..
Real students of the Bible are all devoted to Paul's theology.

This is Basic Christianity 101.
When this is missing from a person's "doctrine" then so is the Truth.

"Pauline Theology".

Go there, stay there. = final answer.

Start here ..

Romans 3:21-28

Then go here... and never leave this verse.... Hebrews 13:9

Sorry, I'm a follower of Christ...Christian site and all. maybe you should google Pauline and find a suitable site for the two of you.

 

[Behold]

Sorry, I'm a follower of Christ...Christian site and all. maybe you should google Pauline and find a suitable site for the two of you.

The "Christ" that you say you follow, chose Paul to give to the Body of Christ, = Church Doctrine, and the Gospel, in "the time of the Gentiles".
We're now in it.
There is a reason that Christ chose Paul as the "Apostle to the Gentiles', , and you would be served well to find out why, at some point, vs pretending that you know all about it.

 

[Lizbeth]

Have you ever noticed that those who often accuse are the ones guilty of what they are accusing us of doing .
Example . Read everything epi accuses me and you of doing . THEN NOTICE its really HE doing it . He is the one with human reasoning
and the one bloviating . Just as they accused CHRIST of having a devil , YET JESUS said YE are of your father the devil .
That is something i notice a lot . Most folks who love to twist and omit the words of CHRIST
often accuse us of doing what THEY do . And act as though THEY the ones who have obtained this HIGHER SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING .

I agree brother, and it hasn't escaped my notice either.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

2 Peter 3
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the LAST DAYS SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, SEEING THAT YE LOOK FOR SUCH THINGS, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the long-suffering of our Lord IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

 

[Lizbeth]

Sorry, I'm a follower of Christ...Christian site and all. maybe you should google Pauline and find a suitable site for the two of you.

Wow. Goodness. It's not a matter of choosing to believe one over another. The teachings of Paul and Jesus are not opposed to one another, at all. Paul even said to follow him as he follows Christ.

 

[St. SteVen]

2 Peter 3
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the LAST DAYSSCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, SEEING THAT YE LOOK FOR SUCH THINGS, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the long-suffering of our Lord IS SALVATION; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

Judge not, lest ye also be judged.

 

[Lizbeth]

No bother you being a trinny and all. A lot of that going around. Adding to the scriptures is frowned upon, though. Father and Son make 2 not three. United in One Spirit....not 3 Spirits. God is Spirit and both Father and Son share one Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are One.

Do the math...1+1= 2 ...We (Father and Son) will make our abode in him. How? By the Spirit.

Not something to belittle others and divide the body over.

 

[Behold]

God IS Spirit. Both share the very same Spirit.

Both are the very same "Spirit'.

1.) "God is A Spirit"... The Holy Spirit

2.) "" Christ is THAT Spirit".. The Holy Spirit

"Christ in you" is.. the born again as "the Temple of the Holy Spirit".

To become "in Christ" and "One with God" is to be spiritually joined to the Holy Spirit .
Its by the Holy Spirit that a person's spirit is "born again".

 

[Episkopos]

The "Christ" that you say you follow, chose Paul to give to the Body of Christ, = Church Doctrine, and the Gospel, in "the time of the Gentiles".
We're now in it.
There is a reason that Christ chose Paul as the "Apostle to the Gentiles', , and you would be served well to find out why, at some point, vs pretending that you know all about it.

Paul preached Christ...not some other gospel. The gospel of the kingdom of God.